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#25080 - 08/14/04 09:23 PM Grooming claws

Could someone please explain why we are not suppose to cut the grooming claws on a glider? I have heard repeatedly for years that it is a big no-no to cut them, that they need them to groom, but if short can they still not groom?
And when we use a nail trimming belt in a wheel, do they not get filed down? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nixweiss.gif" alt="" />

#25081 - 08/14/04 10:16 PM Re: Grooming claws [Re: lillysmomma]

I trim them, but just not every time I trim nails. They grow, just like the rest of the gliders nails, but they don't seem to grow as quickly...

#25082 - 08/15/04 01:51 PM Re: Grooming claws [Re: lillysmomma]

ok here is why we are questioning this. on abc a question as to the back digits that were fused had been asked.
they were told how this is normal.
Now from what i have known these toes are fused from an evolution relating to being aboreal and for grasping.
someone else had mentioned they were fused becuase of grooming and those ones shouldn't be cut. when asked where that information came from as it does not agree with some texts or vets around here,or some of our own expereinces and belief,it was said that these thoughts had origanted from GC...
we were thinking that even if the latter was true and the toes were like that just for the purpose of grooming (which we dont think is correct either but not the main point on what we want to figure out) that the nails would still be able to be trimmed.
Any animal could still eat and groom with the tips of the nails trimmed,why would they not be able to,that doesn't even make sense.
Further reasoning on this not being correct information would be the fact that animals without trimmed nails are capable of causing themselves injuries like scratches on the face,head or even eyes,being someone who works with a vet i have seen many a small animal have this problem infact so it is very possible and this can sometimes be serious,these kind of injuries can damage eyes or become infected.
Second concern is pouch users. these toe nails will snag material and can risk injuries once again if not trimmed.
not to mention the little cuts a person gets when they never trim their glider's nails,ouch......

so this makes no sense not to ever trim these nails to us.
Myself i am hoping who ever started this idea could clarify that these nails can be trimmed so this misconception can be put to rest before it to many ppl stop nail trims.
Now it is important that just the tips are trimmed of course as trimming too short on an aboreal animal could make it insecure for a few days and it wouldn't climb etc,but again just the tips is still a nail trim.

#25083 - 08/16/04 12:09 PM Re: Grooming claws [Re: ]

we would really like some particiaption on this rumor control-it has affected both new and old glider owners who believed it as fact,it needs to be squelched so there isn't a problem with ppl,injuries and their gliders due to never clipping nails.Everyone who has heard this rumor said it originated here on GC...i was given names but i am not interested in naming ppl off just want to make owners aware that it is incorrect information so they are not afraid to trim their gliders' nails.

awesome possum
i agree with your post,saying the back nails would be just trimmed less is alot more realistic,like any animal the back nails do grow a bit slower so they would not always need a trim by time the front ones do.

#25084 - 08/16/04 01:36 PM Re: Grooming claws [Re: ]

I don't know about everyone else but my gliders grooming claws are a lot shorter and thinner than the others and never needed to be trimmed

#25085 - 08/16/04 01:44 PM Re: Grooming claws [Re: ]

Actually, I think it was mentioned in Caroline McPherson's (sp) book... I'll have to go dig it out to confirm that, but I think I read it in there...

#25086 - 08/16/04 06:22 PM Re: Grooming claws [Re: ]

i understand not having needed to yet,espeically if your gliders are young adults still but not needing to and being told to never do it is still diffrent things. They definitly do need to be trimmed less,i have needed to trim my guys back ones several times now. but definitly thanku for the input.

I checked the caroline book; all it says is about just doing the tips and that it will need to be done,recomends two ppl doing the job. mentions the little punctures bad for ppl if the nails are not carolines book backs up the part about trimming the nails but,
it does mention in another section that the fused toes are for a grooming comb (so that is where that part of info is from),mentions the posable nail-less didgit too,and the claws being a scimitar shape
... gripping,climbing etc
says it is seen on many other marsupials too....
thats all i can find in the book on feet/toes/nails....

#25088 - 08/16/04 07:36 PM Re: Grooming claws [Re: ]

When I got my gliders nails clipped by a vet a few times she did not cut the grooming claw nail. I don't know if that helps any but I just thought I would add.

#25089 - 08/17/04 02:28 AM Re: Grooming claws [Re: ]
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Ours get their grooming claws trimmed rarely-every 3rd or 4th trim, and not much taken off. They seem to grow much slower than the rest of the nails--all except for Riker, who needs his done every time. For some reason his grooming claws grow out of control right along with the rest of them, and if I don't trim them, they end up too long for him to groom with at all. I don't know if it has anything to do with the health problems he had as a youngster, and maybe nothing to do with it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nixweiss.gif" alt="" /> We started trimming all of the grooming claws after William got one of his hung up and broke it off into the quick(at least that's how we think it happened-didn't see it happen, and couldn't come up with anything else). It grew back and looks normal again, and we haven't had a repeat performance. That's just our guys, though.
Jen/Colin :bb: Commander Riker 12 16 02-10 04 12 you will be FOREVER missed :wfb: Sinbad, :wfb: Gabby, :grey: Baby, and :grey: Alley

#25090 - 08/17/04 04:36 PM Re: Grooming claws [Re: ]
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Maybe it could be that people say not to trim them because they are thinner than the normal nail which would than cause them easier ability to splinter which would than create more pain? I know that if the clippers arent sharp you can rip the nail instead of actually cut it. Possibly someone had that experience so decided it wasnt worth the risk?

Just a thought, I say just use sandpaper and than you dont have to worry bout it!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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