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#25125 - 08/16/04 02:12 PM Prayer for my sick baby
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Hi everyone this is my first time posting here... but a long time reader..(almost a year)
Well I was feedin my baby girl Reesie two nights ago and noticed she was wasnt really using her back legs all that much... Kinda like a waddle like a penguin... So I started to get nervous and last night my g/f and i took her into the tent to check her out and there's defintaly something wrong... shes lost the mobility in her legs and had urin all over her bottom side... and i feel so unbelievably [censored] about it ...cause i just moved and got a new job and havent put NEARLY the time i used to into my 2 babies (squeaky the male and Reesie the girl) anyway i was reading on this site today to see what i should do and called my girlfriend(cause im at work) and told her to get her to our local vet today ASAP... anyway shes in the vet with her right now and to make this long story short.. i figir this is the place to ask .. if i could please ask for you all to say a little prayer for my baby girl and hope she's gonna be okay. Thanks.

Frank

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#25126 - 08/16/04 02:17 PM Re: Prayer for my sick baby [Re: ]
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Hi Frank and Welcome!!

I'm so glad you decided to join in!! We all care very much for you and your gliders. You did the right thing, taking her to the vet. Also, there are a lot of people on here that are very knowledgeable so be sure and post the outcome of the vet's visit!!!

Prayers and hugs coming your way!!!!!!
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#25127 - 08/16/04 02:59 PM Re: Prayer for my sick baby [Re: ]
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Frank, I am so sorry to hear about your baby <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worried2.gif" alt="" />
My thoughts are with you and Reesie! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

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#25128 - 08/16/04 04:32 PM Re: Prayer for my sick baby [Re: ]
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thanks for the support guys it really means a lot to us.

well the prognosis is in... my g/f just called me a little bit ago with what the vet said. She said she was still very active and she has seen a lot worse off... She said her problem was probably diet... so she told us to switch diets and go with the ledbeater/better however its spelled mix (we were feeding them a mix of ferret/hedgehog, which until this point had been working fine) also she gave us an antibiotic drops which we're to give her, with that give her healthy doses of fruit and mealies coated with repcal (note: we have always been sprinkling their food with it).. Also Squeaky (the male) has always been a bit of a bully toward her when it comes to food and when they cuddle together he kinda smushes her and lately hes been stealing food from her mouth or if she was holding it... so she reccomended that we separate them for the next couple weeks until she can recover. Thats all i can remember off the top of my head...
The thing i wonder about is she said she didnt want to do blood work because she wouldnt be able to get a large enough sample to test all the things she wanted and also that she'd have to put her out and she didnt want to do that just yet. Said if she doesnt get better in the next couple days/weeks then to bring her back... Any comments about the blood work?

I pray that she gets better ... Cause as bad of a daddy as I have been i still love my little baby girl and want a second chance to give GREAT suggie life....

Any other reccomendations?

With tons of hope!!!
Frank and Jamie

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#25129 - 08/16/04 04:50 PM Re: Prayer for my sick baby [Re: ]
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You are NOT a bad daddy! Don't get down on yourself...a bad daddy would not have had her into the vet so quick or goten her on a better diet!!! There have been many many posts regarding bloodwork on these little guys and I'm sure someone will come along and explain exactly why but I think it has to do with the fact that Gliders dont have a ton of it to begin with cuz they are so small and the fact that she is ill right now she needs all the blood shes got to help her recover..Here's me hopin she gets well superfast!!!!


Edited by AllieKat (08/16/04 04:51 PM)

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#25130 - 08/16/04 04:59 PM Re: Prayer for my sick baby [Re: ]
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I'm sorry your baby got sick but that doesn't make you a bad daddy. Now you know and you can fix it. Prayers coming her way for speedy recovery and prayers of patience for you cause I think you'll probably want her to get better right away and it make take sometime. Maybe, Maybe not. But prayers and good wishes coming your way anyway.

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#25131 - 08/16/04 09:04 PM Re: Prayer for my sick baby [Re: ]
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Frank, Your vet is probably right about the bloodwork. Your baby probably does need all the blood she has to get better. I was frustrated when one of ours was sick because no one would draw blood. Here's how my vet explained it: Each lab requires a certain amount of whole blood or plasma to run their tests. Depending on the lab your vet uses, they may not be able to draw enough blood for the lab to do the tests. Approximately 7% of your glider's weight is the volume of blood. It is safe to draw 7% of that total blood volume. My glider didn't weigh enough to draw the amount of blood that was needed for the lab to run the tests. The other issue is that yes, they do need to anesthesize to draw blood -- depending on how sick Reesie is, that could just be too risky.

As far as the diet goes, I would look at the diet links on the "diet and Nutrition" board. The most common "leadbeaters" mixture used by folks on the board is BML, Bourbon's Modified Leadbeaters. The leadbeaters that is often recommended by vets is part of a total diet plan that is used by zoos. The BML plan is created not as a "zoo" diet, but is a diet the average person can easily do.

Best of luck with Reesie. Keep us posted on how she is. And feel free to ask questions, I constantly learn something new each day.

Lynn

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#25132 - 08/16/04 09:11 PM Re: Prayer for my sick baby [Re: ]
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wow I hope your baby is okay. Mine just went to the vet this weekend for the same problem but can't use his back legs at all. What type of antibiotic did they put yours on? Mine was just given calcium drops.

Michelle

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#25133 - 08/17/04 12:14 PM Re: Prayer for my sick baby [Re: ]
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I hope she gets better <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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#25134 - 08/17/04 01:03 PM Re: Prayer for my sick baby [Re: ]
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With a little one this sick...bacterial illnesses can depleat life needed calcium in a gliders body...thus HLP symptoms.

For an inexperienced vet....often he will treat for HLP only and miss the primary(usually bacterial) cause of illness.

Lack of calcium will cause sever complications with the major organs. So....my suggestion is if your glider is on an antibiotic and has HLP symptoms.....then you need to call your vet and discuss admin oral liquid calcium supplement called Calcionate Syrup often refered to as Calcium Glubionate.

Sending prayers for a speedy recovery for your little one. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" /> And by the way....Welcome to Glider Central!


Edited by Judie (08/17/04 01:12 PM)
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#25135 - 08/17/04 02:24 PM Re: Prayer for my sick baby [Re: ]
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Thank you all very much for your concern and advice. I checked in on her this morning to give her medicine and what not. Shes pretty sad about being seperated from squeaky.... but she has to because squeaky does bully her a bit... I'm not sure the name of the antibiotic i'll post it when i get home and can look at it. But yeah the vet has us giving her the antibiotic once a day and the calcium 3 times a day. She's so precious this morning i gave her the calcium (which is the calcium gluconate *sp)which she just LOVES... she basically attacks the cyringe <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> trying to chew on it. Then i tried to give her the biotic and she wanted nothing to do with it... I tried lacing it with just a HINT of honey and still seh said no.... I knew I need to pull out all the stops cause she needs her medicines... pulled out a mealie which she CANT refuse dabbed the biotic on it and she gobbled it right up.

My next worry is that im not sure if she's eating enough of the food we gave her... She hardly touched the ledbeaters mix ate maybe a 1/4 of what shes supposed to... and instead of the fresh fruits we did an assortment of the fruits but only in the form of baby foods.. This sound okay to yall???

Again thank you all I'll keep everyone posted,
Frank & Jamie

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#25136 - 08/17/04 02:45 PM Re: Prayer for my sick baby [Re: ]
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I hope your baby does well. Mine wouldn't eat all of their BML when I first started giving it to them, but they love it now. It took a little while. Good luck! It sounds like you are doing all you can. Keep everyone posted. All parents make mistakes....that's how we learn too. You're learning. Keep it up!

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#25137 - 08/17/04 03:10 PM Re: Prayer for my sick baby [Re: ]
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My prayers go out ot you and you babie. I had the same problem... try putting their favorite yogart, apple sauce, and or necter on top of the BML. I drizzle mine with Kerns Peach Necter and Motts Strawberry and Banana Applesauce. I really do hope your baby gets better and if you need any help just ask away <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />. Good Luck

Cory

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#25138 - 08/17/04 05:09 PM Re: Prayer for my sick baby [Re: ]
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Registered: 10/30/03
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Hope your baby gets well soon. The eating issue, please check the moon phase as well as keeping an eye on her health. We are going through the new moon right now and I know mine loose their appetite almost completely during a full and new moon. Just a thought.
Keep us posted on this little one.
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#25139 - 08/17/04 10:36 PM Re: Prayer for my sick baby [Re: ]
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i hope the vet did a fecal float to ck for parasites. i would try on clean washed hands feeding her the bml on your finger while shes in her pouch when mine didnt eat it i did that and thats the only way they eat it.. give her fresh melons mized frozen veggies along with the bml diet. not too many mealies but for now i would give her more bml than anything. dont let her jump if she has hlp she must be kept in a small cage where she cant jump

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#25140 - 08/17/04 10:58 PM Re: Prayer for my sick baby [Re: ]
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omg! I'm somewhat going thru the same thing as you, but my joeys condition isn't as worse as yours but both surly linked of poor diet! (me feeding Briskys) I just started using BML & hope this makes my Tobey and your Reesie healthy again!

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#25141 - 08/18/04 02:06 PM Re: Prayer for my sick baby [Re: ]
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hmmmmmmmm I thought i had posted a message earlier this morning.. I guess it didnt take....
Again thank you very much for all your support, it means a lot to us... Last night was bittersweet... In MY opinion i think she was moving her legs a bit better... but her butt was still saggin a bit... However she was still just as weak as the night before... and I would guess cause shes not eating... She hardly touched her ledbeaters, and only licked a bit of the baby food fruits that we had for her... And this morning she even resisted the calcium and antibiotic... my g/f said she even turned down a mealie !!! which never happens... however I did give her a slice of an apple last ngiht and put it in her pouch and thats about all she ate..
... Im wondering maybe we give her a some fod from her older diet which we'd been using for two years with no problems... to atleast get some more in her stomach.. The old diet was a mix of Ferret food and hedgehog food with the repcal pink label and the blue label(blue label is like a mulitvitamin)

Id be really confident that she'll get better if she would only eat... cause she's got a lot of energy still... but the longer she doesnt eat the worse she'll get....

Worried
Frank and Jamie

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#25142 - 08/18/04 03:24 PM Re: Prayer for my sick baby [Re: ]
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You're right that she needs to eat. I'd offer her any of her favorites. You might try Darcy's diet (also called the Ensure diet). It uses Ensure as a staple (you would add additional Calcium to the Ensure). The berry flavor is a favorite. Chocolate is a no-no. (I've also hidden the meds in Ensure before). Most gliders adore Ensure.

Since she isn't eating, she may not be drinking also. Make sure you keep close watch on her hydration. If you have any Gliderade, you could also offer that.

Best of luck, Lynn

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#25143 - 08/18/04 04:04 PM Re: Prayer for my sick baby [Re: ]
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Reesie is in my thoughts and prayers. At this point I would let her eat what ever she is willing to eat. You could even try mixing her old diet and the new diet together to see if she will eat it that way. Just an idea to maybe get her to eat it. I would also stick with frozen fruits and veggies instead of baby food fruits and veggies. She may really like it. Hope this helps a little.
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#25144 - 08/18/04 04:56 PM Re: Prayer for my sick baby [Re: ]
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Wow Frank...my prayers are really with you & Reesie as well as Squeaky Jamie...I'm sure this is very hard on you all.
I suggest a call to your vet, letting her know what's going on & that Reesie is getting worse~it seems that while Gliders tend to be slow to show symptoms, they decline rather rapidly & I'd be concerned that time is of the essence.
Please keep us posted...
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#25145 - 08/19/04 08:51 AM Re: Prayer for my sick baby [Re: ]
Judie Offline
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Registered: 10/25/01
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Loc: Edwardsville, Kansas 66113
If not eating or drinking this little one will need sub-q fulids to help her over the hump.

Also, what was the antibiotic as well as type of bacteria that has caused this little glider to be so ill?

You need to call the vet for a follow up....especially for the possible dehydration.
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#25146 - 08/19/04 11:47 AM Re: Prayer for my sick baby [Re: ]
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Well the latest update... Last night i tried giving her the calcium and she just was not having it it.... So I put some fresh fruits out (carrots,banana,grapes) and left her alone for a bit to see if maybe she'd eat. And the good news is she was SUPER hungry.... She ate fruits for prolly 30 minutes or so.. But the bad news is she just does not want to take the calcium, and she wont touch(let alone go near) the ledbeaters mix... So I become tricky daddy and cover mealies with the calcium and she eats them thus taking in a good portion of the calcium but not the full dose. the worst thing is yesterday she LOVED the stuff. I woke up an hour early this morning for her meds... sooooo i dont know we'll see how she progresses.... I just got back from lunch so Im gonna give the vet a call and see what she says. I keep forgetting to check the name of the antibiotic and we dont know the bacteria cause she didnt do a poop test. Should i have her do one, i'll bring it up when i call her?

-Frank

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#25147 - 08/19/04 11:51 AM Re: Prayer for my sick baby [Re: ]
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/littleglider.gif" alt="" /> [:"magenta"] in my opinion, a fecal float/smear cannot hurt. just my thoughts. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/littleglider.gif" alt="" />[/]

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#25148 - 08/19/04 11:53 AM Re: Prayer for my sick baby [Re: ]
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Oh and a side note
Reese's status is about staying the same...
Good: Shes moving her legs better <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

BAD : She has no energy at all she just curls up:( it would be unbelievably cute seeing her curled up in my hand except for the fact that she's like that cause she's sick...

FC

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#25149 - 08/20/04 08:21 AM Re: Prayer for my sick baby [Re: ]
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well... she's digressing ... shes eating less and taking less medicine... We're bringing her into the vet to stay overnight... they're going to give her injections of calcium and anitbiotics... they say if she's going to recover she will within 1-3 days...

frank

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#25150 - 08/20/04 09:46 AM Re: Prayer for my sick baby [Re: ]
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I'll pray that your baby gets better soon!!! Please keep us updated!

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#25151 - 08/21/04 07:08 PM Re: Prayer for my sick baby [Re: ]
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yes get it done! It's only $15 and it could save your gliders life, don't you think its worth it? Better safe then sorry.

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#25152 - 08/21/04 08:30 PM Re: Prayer for my sick baby [Re: ]
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I will keep your baby in my thoughts and prayers. So sorry you are going through this. Please continue to keep us updated.
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#25153 - 08/21/04 09:47 PM Re: Prayer for my sick baby [Re: ]
Judie Offline
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Registered: 10/25/01
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Loc: Edwardsville, Kansas 66113
It is so hard watching a little one who is going down hill so to speak.

Sending prayers that she will get well soon. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />'s to you as well.
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#25154 - 08/21/04 10:26 PM Re: Prayer for my sick baby [Re: ]
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Hugs and prayers sent your way. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />

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