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#25282 - 08/18/04 12:52 PM wfb + grey = ?
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/littleglider.gif" alt="" /> [:"magenta"] i have a question. if someone breeds a wfb with a standard, what will they get? what are the chances they will wind up with a wfb? approximately how many times will they have to breed to get a wfb? any help will be appreciated.[/]

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#25283 - 08/18/04 01:44 PM Re: wfb + grey = ? [Re: ]
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They can end up with 1 od 3 things... A white faced blonde, a white faced gray, or a het (normal colored glider). More often than not, you're going to get a het...

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#25284 - 08/18/04 02:15 PM Re: wfb + grey = ? [Re: ]
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I have always been told that you get a 50% chance of having a white-faced joey and the other 50% is of course a gray which would be a het. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#25285 - 08/19/04 11:15 AM Re: wfb + grey = ? [Re: ]
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#25286 - 08/19/04 11:15 AM Re: wfb + grey = ? [Re: ]
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It's labeled judy.

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#25287 - 08/19/04 06:54 PM Re: wfb + grey = ? [Re: ]
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I do believe you get about 50% or greater. At the current time I am getting about 64% and so is Pricilla. Couldn't not hear Judie, and so I don't know what percentage she said, but this is now a year later and more data is out there.
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#25288 - 08/19/04 08:01 PM Re: wfb + grey = ? [Re: ]
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Wow Sheila, 64%! Now, that's just white faced right? Do you have any figures on how many are white faced grays and how many are white faced blondes of that 64%?

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#25289 - 08/19/04 08:59 PM Re: wfb + grey = ? [Re: ]
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I don't really know how the WF gene works but when I was trying to figure it out awhile back if I remember correctly Judie told me that the WF blondes and grays all have the same gene but that the WF blonde is a mutation of that gene.
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#25290 - 08/19/04 11:35 PM Re: wfb + grey = ? [Re: ]
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I only get the WF Grays when the normal parent is dark gray or the WF is a gray whiteface to begin with. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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#25291 - 08/20/04 03:10 AM Re: wfb + grey = ? [Re: ]
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Interesting... So if I were to pair a white faced blonde with, lets say, a cinnamon, I would actually have better chances of getting a WFB than anything else?

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#25292 - 08/20/04 09:57 PM Re: wfb + grey = ? [Re: ]
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I have a female which is a gray but the male is a light face gray I guess. Here is a pic. of their joey he is 4 wks. oop is he just a light color gray


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#25293 - 08/23/04 02:31 PM Re: wfb + grey = ? [Re: ]
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For cute! He is definitely a lighter classic gray sugar. The White Faced gliders actually don't have the dark bar under their ear. If you were to pair this little one with an actual WFblonde or WFgray.. then you'd probably be getting about 64% WFblondes or WFGrays. =) He's so cute!

AP-- Maybe you'd get WFCinnamons!

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#25294 - 08/23/04 02:42 PM Re: wfb + grey = ? [Re: ]
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Lol, that's what I'm trying to figure out... You would think there would be more WFC then though...

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#25295 - 08/23/04 03:13 PM Re: wfb + grey = ? [Re: ]
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Probably would be best to get a wf baby from one WF and one cinnamon... and then pair it with a cinnamon. I'd think this would give more chance for a WF cinnamon.

I think the whole problem with it, is that Cinnamon.. is just so vague. Some people consider their brown gliders to be cinnamon. So.. if a brown glider is paired with a WF glider... I don't think you'd ever truly see WF cinnamons. That's just my opinion.

I've only ever seen one WF cinnamon... I think from Mike Sandridge. It was quite awhile ago.

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#25296 - 08/24/04 11:10 PM Re: wfb + grey = ? [Re: ]
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I have produced one White Faced Red Cinnamon. Breeding was out of Seth a wf blonde and Peanut a dark Choc Cinnamon. Baby was sold to Marsha...Sugrlove here on the board. Photo of baby I beleive is in my Gallery here on Glider Central.


Edited by Judie (08/24/04 11:11 PM)
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