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#28919 - 11/06/04 05:02 PM Attn: Coloring Experts

I met a girl the other day who has gliders too. I asked her what color hers were & this is what she told me. She said that all gliders outside of Australia are grays and all the Australian gliders are red. I know she didn't know what she was talking about when it came to gliders outside of Australia because I've seen the pictures in the gallery here at GC, but what's this about red gliders? Was she out of her mind on that one too?

#28920 - 11/06/04 05:42 PM Re: Attn: Coloring Experts [Re: ]

Perhaps she is just mis-informed. When I first bought my deep red cinny Clyde, I was startled by his color. The lady I bought him from said he was one generation from wild gliders and thats why he had that color. I knew this was untrue, but people think odd things.

#28921 - 11/06/04 05:52 PM Re: Attn: Coloring Experts [Re: lillysmomma]

This is the same girl that tried to convince me that inbreeding brother/sister pairs was perfectly ok & done all the time! That's why I was leaning toward "out of her mind"!

#28922 - 11/06/04 06:00 PM Re: Attn: Coloring Experts [Re: ]

She might want to join the board.

#28923 - 11/06/04 06:28 PM Re: Attn: Coloring Experts [Re: lillysmomma]

Just someone I ran into, I don't know if I'll ever see her again, but I told her about GC.

#28924 - 11/06/04 11:50 PM Re: Attn: Coloring Experts [Re: ]

I read in a few places that gliders look reddish sometimes if they are dirty. Maybe the wild gliders in Australia have a reddish tint because they dont have the clean environments gliders in the US do, so they might stay a little dirtier.
It is possible I would think that there are some color differences, because the gliders in Australia would have small evolving color changes to help them better survive in the environment (a darker coat, a belly thats not bright white I would think), while the gliders in the US probably tend to have prettier and "cleaner" color traits as they are usually kept healthier than wild gliders. So the trait for color would tend to evolve in a direction that causes them to look prettier due to the fact that they are fed so well, and as the generations from wild caught gliders get healthier their coats will be prettier and prettier and brighter in each generation of offspring.
Thats just my guess...what do you think?
I'd say she was probably on the right track..just at some point got misguided. Tell her to come here

#28925 - 11/07/04 12:28 AM Re: Attn: Coloring Experts [Re: ]

I watched that Animal Planet show tonight & the gliders looked pretty much like mine. They just had longer fur & looked quite a bit fatter (could have been the fur). I don't know, just thought I'd ask.

#28926 - 11/07/04 04:11 AM Re: Attn: Coloring Experts [Re: ]

I watched it too and I kept this thread in mine. They appeared to be standard greys, but they were FAT! They seemed to be pretty large, too, but I can't compare b/c I have two joeys <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/muchlove.gif" alt="" />.

#28927 - 11/07/04 04:36 AM Re: Attn: Coloring Experts [Re: ]
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Most wild-caught gliders I have seen are stained very badly, and look reddish. Wild caughts are much more rare now, than they were when I got my first glider 8+ years ago. Now we know enough to be able to breed them easily, and have no real need to import more gliders.
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#28928 - 11/07/04 04:48 AM Re: Attn: Coloring Experts [Re: ]
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I watched Croc Hunter about a year or two ago and Steve Irwin has gliders in his zoo in Australia. The wild ones are much larger then the captive ones we have here. Some of the ones he has in his zoo are three times what we are used to here. They did appear more redish but that was due to staining, not actual color. (according to Steve) That show was extremely informative and I was amazed at how he handled wild gliders. He did wear heavy leather gloves. And the way that glider was trying to bite, can't blame him a bit. If I didn't know what sweet animals they can be, I would never have thought about having one as a pet.
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#28929 - 11/07/04 08:17 AM Re: Attn: Coloring Experts [Re: ]

Well maybe she was thinking of cinn... gliders they do have a reddish tint to them. Also in Austrailia they have red dirt. The pigmints from the dirt may make the gliders look a little bit redish.

#28930 - 11/07/04 11:41 AM Re: Attn: Coloring Experts [Re: ]

The gliders on Croc hunter may have been squirrel gliders. And I as just recently learned first hand, alot of the animals you see in documentaries are from zoos or belong to people as pets, they are just filmed on a set, perhaps out on backroad just East of Toronto in the cinematographers basement studio <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/roflmao.gif" alt="" />.

#28931 - 11/07/04 03:46 PM Re: Attn: Coloring Experts [Re: lillysmomma]

Just a few thoughts I had after reading this post:
People in Australia rarely see gliders- they are not prevalent all throughout Australia- more along some of the coastal regions. I went to Australia this past summer and just wanted to see a real sugar glider- I even had visions of me getting one and finding a way to get it back into the states- an authentic Australian sugar glider. I even took night hikes and didn't see a one. The nature guide I was with was probably about 30 or so and he'd just seen a few shadows of gliders jumping from tree to tree a few times in his lifetime. He was a little shocked that here in the states we could have them as pets. Any books that I could find that had sugar gliders pictures in them from native Australian photographers looked like my gliders here. They weren't red. I did find one story book about squirrel gliders in an endangered forest which were a mahogany color. But that was a squirrel glider not a sugar glider- and one was mahogany, and one was gray. It is illegal for Australians to catch or have sugar gliders. A couple of Australians that I talked to didn't even know what a sugar glider was.

#28932 - 11/07/04 03:49 PM Re: Attn: Coloring Experts [Re: ]

Oh, and if you ever meet an Australian, don't mention Steve Erwin. They really don't like him very much.

#28933 - 11/07/04 05:44 PM Re: Attn: Coloring Experts [Re: ]

I thought I read somewhere that wild gliders are browner/redder in color than captive bred/raised because of their diet?

#28934 - 11/07/04 06:05 PM Re: Attn: Coloring Experts [Re: ]

In the book by Caroline MacPherson below one of the pictures it says "Captive-born babies are always gray and white even if their parents have the brown-orange fur typical of wild-caught animals" For those of you who have the book it is on page 52. So maybe thats where she got her info from.

#28935 - 11/08/04 10:18 AM Re: Attn: Coloring Experts [Re: ]

I have a Cinamon, she is gorgious. VERY diffrent from the grey.

I saw the AP special as well. They were huge!! And white tipped tails! I love my possums!!


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