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#292755 - 05/21/07 10:01 AM My new glider is self-mutilating
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I just got my new glider last night, my friend picked him up in Dallas. Here's a little background. He posted an ad on Craigslist saying his sister talked him into taking this glider, and he didn't realize the work involved, doesn't have time ect. so he's selling him. Doesn't know the age, has no picture. My friend picked him up on Sunday, the guy came out with a shoebox w/ holes poked in lid, took the money and left.She doesn't know anything about them, and just left him in there for fear he'd escape.I had sent a cage and pouch, but the guy told her he'd be fine in there. I get him and open the box in the cage, and he's in a bunch of papertowels, with a sock, and a bowl of fruit cocktail. He was crabbing like crazy, but nothing "bad" sounding. When he finally emerges, his tail is missing all the fur from near the base to about an inch up. He is terrified. But his fur isn't yellowish, his nose is a healthy pink. He was trying to chew on the box and all the toys, and is very skittish. The guy said he was a male, but he doesn't have a bald spot on his head, maybe just young? He seems smaller than my glider who is 3. What do I need to do for him? From last night to this morning, he hasn't chewed anymore on himself. My glider came out of her pouch and was extremely interested in him, really excited to see him. I wish there wasn't a 30 period, because I think it would help him alot to have another glider. The guy's sister has his brother, they split them up 2 or 3 weeks ago. Any help?

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#292757 - 05/21/07 10:07 AM Re: My new glider is self-mutilating [Re: ]
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Registered: 05/16/07
Posts: 376
Loc: Walker (56484), Minnesota, USA...
First of all, considering his condition, I wouldn't shorten the 30 day period at all..
If he is SMing, I'd get him an ecollar to keep him from doing it for now..
Other than that, I would suggest contacting a vet. If there's something different you'd like to do, or you don't think that would help, wait for someone else to post here. I'm a bit green to help out in these situations.
Also, he seems to be under alot of stress as it is. Try to keep the area around his cage quiet and not too dramatic. Taking him to the vet will probably cause him some stress, but a vet is a vet and a vet knows best.
For now, try the ecollar. If it's too hard to get it on him or it freaks him out too bad, don't try it again until someone more experienced comes along.
They'll know alot more than I do.
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#292783 - 05/21/07 10:38 AM Re: My new glider is self-mutilating [Re: Shuttershade]
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Registered: 06/23/06
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Has the glider actually injured himself or is it just missing fur? If there's any wound, or you have any thought that he's sm'ing, an ecollar is a must followed by a vet visit. You said the hair loss is at the base of the tail, so a standard ecollar should be sufficient. He's suffered a tremendous deal of stress and not knowing what type of situation he's come, the stress is probably long term. You need to get him to a vet for a thorough checkup ASAP. You don't want to expose your glider to any potential illness, so the 30 day quarantine is very important, including good handwashing between handling the different gliders. Once any immediate health needs are taken care of, give him time to settle in to his new home. Make sure he's eating and drinking. Watch his behavior and keep close eye on any changes. Please let us know how this guy does. I'm going to send a link to this to a few people w/sm experience.
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#292799 - 05/21/07 10:55 AM Re: My new glider is self-mutilating [Re: thefotokat]
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I am at work, do they typically SM during the day, or will he be fine until I get home? Am in the process of making an appt and yes, the 30 day will definately be followed. I'm pretty sure he's SM'ing.

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#292818 - 05/21/07 11:12 AM Re: My new glider is self-mutilating [Re: ]
BeckiT Offline
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Registered: 09/29/06
Posts: 16083
Loc: Manitowoc, WI
if he is sm'ing it can happen at any time. Is it the end of his tail or the base up near his body? If it's the end, you'll need not only an ecollar, but a straw to cover the problem area as otherwise he'll still be able to get at it even with an ecollar on. It's possible it's just overgrooming from being stressed/lonely too. Do you have any pictures of the injury or are you able to take any?
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#292821 - 05/21/07 11:19 AM Re: My new glider is self-mutilating [Re: BeckiT]
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Yes I have pics and I will try to post them here, but bear with me, I am on a MAC at work, which I love, but have never posted a pic with it.
Edited: The pics are on my camera still and I don't have the correct software, but I will post at lunch.


Edited by bbiscuitsmommy (05/21/07 11:23 AM)

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#292837 - 05/21/07 11:27 AM Re: My new glider is self-mutilating [Re: ]
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Go macs. I'm on one too but I don't post pics, I think it's the same process though.

When you go to the vet have them run for urinalysis and fecal smear as well so if he has parasites or anything he won't expose your girl to it.

I have an Sm'er and while he was out of his collar for the first few weeks I made sure to give him lots of toys and treats and moved everything around to distract him from going back to old ways. If he is a case of overgrooming then do this for the 30 day waiting period at least it helped my baby. If he is SM then try it when he gets out of the collar. My boy was in the collar for three months and he still played with toys I just had to make sure he couldn't hurt himself on them or get stuck.

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#292865 - 05/21/07 11:45 AM Re: My new glider is self-mutilating [Re: ]
Anonymous
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Thanks for the replies, ya'll. I am trying not to spaz out too much! Poor little guy, he is so terrified, it broke my heart. But he was willing to take a small piece of marshmallow as a treat and a cricket and 2 mealworms from my hand. So that gives me hope for him. No wonder the guy didn't have pics!

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#292908 - 05/21/07 12:19 PM Re: My new glider is self-mutilating [Re: ]
mary h Offline
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Registered: 08/06/02
Posts: 385
Loc: Wallis, Texas
...Please call me. My name is Mary 979-478-7546. I have dealt with many sick gliders. Don't do anything until we talk.

Mary
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#292915 - 05/21/07 12:26 PM Re: My new glider is self-mutilating [Re: mary h]
Carrie T Offline
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Registered: 06/10/01
Posts: 4049
Loc: Doniphan Mo
Now there is some excellent help. Please call Mary, she has tons of experience. thumb

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#292978 - 05/21/07 01:21 PM Re: My new glider is self-mutilating [Re: Carrie T]
Anonymous
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Called Mary, THANK YOU so much thanks Can someone with a MAC walk me through adding pics? Thanks

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#292989 - 05/21/07 01:39 PM Re: My new glider is self-mutilating [Re: ]
Anonymous
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Did it add the pics?


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Edited by bbiscuitsmommy (05/21/07 01:40 PM)
Edit Reason: add more pics

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#293000 - 05/21/07 01:55 PM Re: My new glider is self-mutilating [Re: ]
Anonymous
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I can't get the pics to load all the way?

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#293002 - 05/21/07 01:58 PM Re: My new glider is self-mutilating [Re: ]
Anonymous
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the links didn't work. Cant see the whole picture

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#293003 - 05/21/07 02:00 PM Re: My new glider is self-mutilating [Re: ]
Anonymous
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Arg, heck! hmmmm let me try resizing.


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Edited by bbiscuitsmommy (05/21/07 02:11 PM)
Edit Reason: NEW PIC RESIZED?

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#293009 - 05/21/07 02:05 PM Re: My new glider is self-mutilating [Re: ]
BeckiT Offline
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Registered: 09/29/06
Posts: 16083
Loc: Manitowoc, WI
if you want to email them to me, I can post them for you wink My email is BeckiT4GC@aol.com wink
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#293016 - 05/21/07 02:14 PM Re: My new glider is self-mutilating [Re: BeckiT]
Anonymous
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ok thanks!

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#293061 - 05/21/07 03:19 PM Re: My new glider is self-mutilating [Re: ]
BeckiT Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Registered: 09/29/06
Posts: 16083
Loc: Manitowoc, WI
Here are the pics:
pic1
pic2
pic3 - tail damage

From that last pic, it does look like he's SM'ing because of the open sores, so you'll want to get him into the vet for a check and you also need to get an e-collar on him to prevent any further damage
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#293308 - 05/21/07 07:04 PM Re: My new glider is self-mutilating [Re: BeckiT]
JayAndDiana Offline
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Registered: 09/24/06
Posts: 1675
Loc: NJ
Oh, poor lil guy- Ecollar and vet, agreed with Becki!! Keep us updated..
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#293310 - 05/21/07 07:08 PM Re: My new glider is self-mutilating [Re: BeckiT]
Happy Birthday Xfilefan Offline
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Registered: 02/22/03
Posts: 8899
Loc: Jacksonville, FL
Since the skin is broken, I'd go with a couple weeks of a broad spectrum antibiotic, just to head off any potential foothold of any bacteria that might be in there, and prevent it going any further before it does. As of now, a painkiller (Torbuterol or Butotphanol--NOT Metacam) might work instead of a collar...if any more damage is done, it won't.

With a tail, when you put the collar on, you need to make sure he can't get the damaged part into the collar to continue chewing on it-which may necessitate wrapping the tail with vetwrap or taping a slit straw over it so it can't curl in. The collar is to keep the glider from chewing at any bandaging as well as the tail.
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