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#300861 - 05/29/07 06:45 PM grr.. frustrated with Joey ? parent?
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Ive had several sets of joeys from other colony of gliders , my first two gliders sneaker and yoda had their first set of joeys come oop few days ago .

Problem I am having is that one joey really likes to wander ! and its driving me nuts , he seems as if he is getting nurishment as he doesnt whine or cry when he is wandering - btw his eyes are still closed and his belly is still pink enough to tell that he has a white spot so he is getting milk. I found him climbing the top of the cage a few mins ago cage is about 4' tall 3' wide 2' deep.. so you can imagine my nervousness .. I put him back in with his mom and dad and no more then 3 mins later i find him crawling around on bottom of cage .. beginning to be very frustrated at this wander.. he loves to explore ! any ideas to keep his butt in there with his momma /daddy ? i have the apartment temp turned to where it gets kinda muggy in here incase he keeps getting out he dont freeze to death.

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#300865 - 05/29/07 06:57 PM Re: grr.. frustrated with Joey ? parent? [Re: ]
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when you find him is he cold to the touch? to help your wander from falling to the botom of the cage when he decides that he is big enough to explore you can put hamics across the cage at diffrent levels up the sides and one all the way across the bottom of the cage so that if he dose fall he dosent fall far. but that is all that i can tell you you might want to im suzs and ask her what to do

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#300867 - 05/29/07 07:02 PM Re: grr.. frustrated with Joey ? parent? [Re: ]
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i usally kiss em when I can get my hands on the joeys and they are always a bit cool to my lips . my other colony of gliders the parents never let me see or handle the joeys this young i usally get to get ahold of those joeys 2 days before their eyes open.. these two im not 100% sure when they came OOP but they haven't grown into their heads quite yet *grin very linky looking as my fiance put it they look like little monkeys I'll snap a few pics later on .


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#300870 - 05/29/07 07:07 PM Re: grr.. frustrated with Joey ? parent? [Re: ]
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have you tried to see if he will take any baby formula maybe he is just a little hungery there was someone on here thjat said that the only reason that they climb out of the pouch is either they are hungery or they are cold try giving him a little of the formula and then put him back and see who he dose then

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#300873 - 05/29/07 07:11 PM Re: grr.. frustrated with Joey ? parent? [Re: ]
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nope havent tried baby formula yet, i believe he is being fed i took him into a brighter light source and checked his belly for a white spot and there was a tiny one.

I've had to grab him and put him back in the sleeping pouch 3 times in the course of 45 mins , he is now sleeping on top his dads head peacefully. little butthead better stay put.

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#300884 - 05/29/07 07:30 PM Re: grr.. frustrated with Joey ? parent? [Re: ]
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when you looked at the white spot how big was it it should be the size of a dime

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#300887 - 05/29/07 07:36 PM Re: grr.. frustrated with Joey ? parent? [Re: ]
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hmm the whole joey is no wider then a dime.

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#300898 - 05/29/07 07:54 PM Re: grr.. frustrated with Joey ? parent? [Re: ]
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lol I dotn know what to tell you that is just how big it says to be on suz web site http://www.suzsugargliders.com/handraisingajoey.htm

Im not saying that he is being rejected or anything like that I have just read that sometimes you need to supelment feed them every now and then but wandering outof the pouch is a signthat he is searchign for food. you can also im suzs and see if she can tell y ou anything else to do.. I dotn have alot of experiance with joeys that is just what i have read where i have a female that has at least one ip

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#300909 - 05/29/07 08:17 PM Re: grr.. frustrated with Joey ? parent? [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Jadenbug
lol I dotn know what to tell you that is just how big it says to be on suz web site http://www.suzsugargliders.com/handraisingajoey.htm

Im not saying that he is being rejected or anything like that I have just read that sometimes you need to supelment feed them every now and then but wandering outof the pouch is a signthat he is searchign for food. you can also im suzs and see if she can tell y ou anything else to do.. I dotn have alot of experiance with joeys that is just what i have read where i have a female that has at least one ip


well i checked his tummy again, and finally got ahold of the 2nd joey .. the 2nd joey is twice the size and already has one eye open and you can clearly see the milk in the 2nd joeys belly however after checking again you cannot see anything but the poor dears ribs on the wandering joey, I tried to get momma to sit still long enough while no joeys were around so I could show the smaller joey where her pouch was but she fights me so bad. this poor joey is really clumsy , just wants to sleep and doesnt have the strength to stick its head into her pouch my fiance and I held her pouch open and still no luck. I feel so bad because my fiance doesnt live with me and we both work 12 hrs a day , I am definately neutering the male of this pair soon as the healthy joey is eating on its own , I guess thru the rest of the night I'm gonna be up crying my eyes out and trying to supplement feed this little one.

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#300917 - 05/29/07 08:30 PM Re: grr.. frustrated with Joey ? parent? [Re: ]
sugarglidersuz Offline
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Hi... I just responded to your e-mail, but I'll post the advice here, too smile
This joey is wandering because he's hungry and searching for food. You need to start supplement feeding him Right Away! Otherwise, he will dehydrate and get weak very quickly. He needs to be fed at least every 4-6 hours around the clock by you since he's obviously not getting enough from his mother. The white spot on his belly does need to be about the size of a dime (even though he's tiny) to indicate a full belly...
Please do read through my page about Hand Raising a Joey to find out how to make up the formula for him and how to go about feeding him. If you have more questions, please feel free to call me at 440-953-0904 and I'll try to help as much as possible...
Again, please don't delay and start feeding him right away!
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#300938 - 05/29/07 08:55 PM Re: grr.. frustrated with Joey ? parent? [Re: sugarglidersuz]
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i've called every vet within 100 miles and they think I'm some kinda junky wanting a 1cc syringe even though i also specified a #5 catheter .. one vet told me that the sugarglider vet will be in 8am tommorow and i politely informed her that this little guy wont last that long . I have one vet supposedly gonna call me back cause the dr was busy and she couldnt get the OK from him to give me a catheter and syringe, My fiance is out now looking at petstores for what we need. I'm stressed to the max enough the mom and dad can tell as they are all in my lap in their sleeping pouch.

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#300951 - 05/29/07 09:07 PM Re: grr.. frustrated with Joey ? parent? [Re: ]
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do you have a medicane syriange that you would give meds to a child with like the ones thatyou get a pharmacy you can get a 1cc syrange from walgreens pharmacy and they will usually give it to you free but i you can use that until you can get a vet to give you one and a cath

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#300958 - 05/29/07 09:18 PM Re: grr.. frustrated with Joey ? parent? [Re: ]
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mt fiance is on her way now to a vet who agree'd to give us what we need this ONE time for 22.50

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#300961 - 05/29/07 09:22 PM Re: grr.. frustrated with Joey ? parent? [Re: ]
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that is good
I hope that everything goes good with the little one

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#300999 - 05/29/07 09:57 PM Re: grr.. frustrated with Joey ? parent? [Re: ]
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now to get his little butt to eat. tried to gethim warm with fleece in microwave but regardless he wont eat from catheter he licks a finger every now and then if he smells some on ur finger. ugh I hope he lasts the night so my fiance can take him to vet in AM

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#301101 - 05/29/07 11:03 PM Re: grr.. frustrated with Joey ? parent? [Re: ]
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have you read suz web page about hand raising a joey that will tell you how to feed a joey.. from what i rember is that you place a dot of formula on the joeys lip and it will lick it off but ifyou can get it to eat of off your hand then you can see if you can get it to eat that way.. the easiest way to get it warm is to stick it (femal) in your bra or (male) under your shirt skin to skin contact is the best thing that i know once he warms up he will be mor likely to eat.

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#301105 - 05/29/07 11:07 PM Re: grr.. frustrated with Joey ? parent? [Re: ]
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we've been swapping fleece blankies from microwave back and forth to where they are just warm enough u can barely feel any warmth off them . as well as under the shirt and in bra.. he ate a little bit most what he licked off my finger or the fleece blankies to where i seen a small dot on his belly but he just quit eating .

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#301119 - 05/29/07 11:24 PM Re: grr.. frustrated with Joey ? parent? [Re: ]
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all i can tell you is to keep trying the warmer that you get him the more he will eat I hope that he dose well do you have incubator set up ?

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#301121 - 05/29/07 11:28 PM Re: grr.. frustrated with Joey ? parent? [Re: ]
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no on incubator it got too late to get the things needed.
if he survives the night i intend on taking him to vet to see wether my efforts are futile or not. he has alot of spunk in him and fights me every step of the way.

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#301180 - 05/30/07 06:00 AM Re: grr.. frustrated with Joey ? parent? [Re: ]
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yay he made it thru the night , I'm taking the day off and taking him to the vet so maybe he/she can tell me I'm doing good or that this poor guy will cross the bridge. cry

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#301183 - 05/30/07 06:06 AM Re: grr.. frustrated with Joey ? parent? [Re: ]
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Yay for that! Small victories are all we can count on sometimes. Please keep us updated as soon as you can, we're all pulling for this little guy hug2

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#301190 - 05/30/07 06:46 AM Re: grr.. frustrated with Joey ? parent? [Re: glidergrl1513]
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cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry

he just passed over the bridge in my hands, he put up a great fight this is the first joey i've lost and will never be this ill-prepared again . need_hug

http://www.t-mobilepictures.com/photos/photo24/37/5a/f0ae49c5b064.jpg


Edited by Synaptic (05/30/07 06:48 AM)

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#301191 - 05/30/07 06:49 AM Re: grr.. frustrated with Joey ? parent? [Re: glidergrl1513]
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Edited by sugarglidersuz (05/30/07 06:56 AM)
Edit Reason: post too late - deleted... :(
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#301192 - 05/30/07 06:52 AM Re: grr.. frustrated with Joey ? parent? [Re: ]
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I am so sorry for your loss. upset
hug2 hug2

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#301194 - 05/30/07 06:55 AM Re: grr.. frustrated with Joey ? parent? [Re: ]
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Mitch, I'm so very sorry... cry cry cry ...we must have been posting at the same time... I wish things had been better for you & for the little guy. He was so cute heart

Moving this over to Real Stories now...
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#301201 - 05/30/07 07:14 AM Re: grr.. frustrated with Joey ? parent? [Re: ]
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I'm so sorry! I was not expecting to read this. He was such a lil scrapper. I thought he'd pull through.

I'm so very sorry for your loss. hug2
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#301215 - 05/30/07 07:58 AM Re: grr.. frustrated with Joey ? parent? [Re: ValkyrieMome]
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I am so sorry for your loss. You did everything you could. Sending suggie hugs and kisses. hug2

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#301273 - 05/30/07 09:16 AM Re: grr.. frustrated with Joey ? parent? [Re: ]
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Sometimes mommies know best. cry You did everything you could to help this little guy, but it just wasn't meant to be. hug2 I am so sorry to hear of your loss.
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#301292 - 05/30/07 09:38 AM Re: grr.. frustrated with Joey ? parent? [Re: Mel2mdl]
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hug2 hug2 I am so sorry for your loss. You did everything you could and the little guy knew he was loved. hug2
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#301299 - 05/30/07 09:44 AM Re: grr.. frustrated with Joey ? parent? [Re: Usha77]
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I'm so sorry for your loss. hug2

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