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#322018 - 06/23/07 03:54 AM Updated pictures of Leah
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Not sure if this is where I need to post this. So Mod's move it, if you need to.


Everyone has been asking me about Miss Leah and how she is doing and to please post some updated pictures of her. She is doing awesome. Her wound is healing very slowly, but very nicely. I will post a couple of the bad mating wound before pictures and a couple of the wound now, so you can see how she is healing. I will advise anyone who looks at the following pictures, Please be prepared, several before pictures are pretty horrible.


Like I said, Leah is doing awesome. She has been by herself for 2 months now and she is so sweet & so good when it's time for me to put the medicine on. I just open her cage door & she knows it's medicine & mealworm time. She comes right out to me, puts her head down in the mealworm box and just sits there while I put the medicine on her wound. (The medicine I am using on Leah's wound is called: Tricide solution with Baytril). If anyone is interested in this medication solution, send me your email address and I will send you the information from my vet, to give to your vet's, so they can call & get the medication & formula measurements.


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First 3 pictures #5,#2,#1 are of when I got the glider.
Second 3 pictures #15,#12,#14 are present, after 2 months of healing.



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#322020 - 06/23/07 04:27 AM Re: Updated pictures of Leah [Re: SweetGliders]
iwuvmahmonkaypuppays Offline
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that looks almost identical to the wound that happened to my lily...it was higher up on the neck though and it went halfway down her back....it took months for it to heal completely...she kept scratching it with her back feet so that deffinately slowed down the process....she is completely recovered now...shes has a scar about and inch wide but its very thin and shes a happy girl now...i hope leah has a speedy recovery...neck wounds are so tricky becuse you cant prevent them from messing with it...good luck and i wish leah (and you) the best
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#322025 - 06/23/07 05:12 AM Re: Updated pictures of Leah [Re: iwuvmahmonkaypuppays]
SugarBlossoms Offline
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Oh Anita!! Poor Leah! What happened to her? Was it a mating wound? I'm so glad she is getting better!

Does the skin itself come loose and open up when suggies get a wound? When I see pics of wounds, they usually resemble eachother is why I was wondering.

If one of mine ever get that, I'm calling you! You know what you are doing and she has an awesome mommy!


sorry, missed the part about the mating wound. I see that now. I was half asleep frown


Edited by SugarBlossoms (06/23/07 12:33 PM)
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#322038 - 06/23/07 06:57 AM Re: Updated pictures of Leah [Re: SugarBlossoms]
sugarglidersuz Offline
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Anita,
Thank you for sharing these pictures with us and for updating us on her progress. I assume the last 3 pix are the "after" pix? There's been a lot of progress made, but it really shows how extensive the damage was since the wound is definitely still visible shakehead

I do have a question for you... There doesn't appear to be any granulation of the tissue around the edges of the wound. How did you & your vet prevent that from happening? Is it because of the type of ointment being used?

I am going to keep this here in Health & Hygiene for the educational benefits of the post thumb
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#322065 - 06/23/07 08:32 AM Re: Updated pictures of Leah [Re: sugarglidersuz]
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so glad she is doing better... Anita you are taking such good care of her...
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#322182 - 06/23/07 12:18 PM Re: Updated pictures of Leah [Re: dranger1108]
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did this mating wound happen in just one evening or do you think it was more? it looks really deep. yipes, bet she is not wanting much romance anymore!
this is very educational.. thanks
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#322185 - 06/23/07 12:24 PM Re: Updated pictures of Leah [Re: uhoh]
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wow, does this happen with most breeding gliders?

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#322328 - 06/23/07 03:02 PM Re: Updated pictures of Leah [Re: morksmom]
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Suz,
The medication (Tricide with Baytril Solution) that we are using and the many times that it needs to administered, it helps the granulation process heal at a minimum and helps the tissue come back slowly, smooth, clean and healthy with no excess scrabbing and no infections and all of the underneath and surface tissues can breath and get the fresh air that it needs to help it heal.

dranger1108,
Thanks, she is doing awesome.

uhoh,
Not on this particular glider, we believe this wound was progressively being made and getting worse by being left unattended over a period of time. Leah didn't belong to me until her owners relinguished her to me to nurse back to health. Most Wounds can go from a very small hole, or tear, or scratch to a big huge abcess wound when it blows out from an underlying infection caused by the bite or scratch from another glider. Leah is by herself and will be until she is 110% healed and I feel she is well enough the be introduced to my very spoiled, laid back & hand raised girl: Thumbelina.

morksmom,
No, this doesn't always happen when gliders breed. But this is something everyone needs to be watching out for because an abcess can happen at anytime, from a small scratch, a mating wound, a toy or cage injury, etc.... That is why we tell & advise new owners and old to check your babies everyday. To prevent things like this from happening and getting very bad, very quickly and possibly as bad making your glider very, very sick and or killing your baby from that an underlying or hiding infection that is not caught until its to late. So when you find an injury of any kind, Please get medical advise and treatment ASAP. To me, it could be the life of your glider.


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#322361 - 06/23/07 03:42 PM Re: Updated pictures of Leah [Re: SweetGliders]
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She looks soo much better!! You have done a awesome job with her!!! dance

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#322368 - 06/23/07 03:52 PM Re: Updated pictures of Leah [Re: ]
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Thanks for the updates. I'm so glad you were able to get her and help her to heal. heart
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#322372 - 06/23/07 04:01 PM Re: Updated pictures of Leah [Re: TracieB]
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Wow! I am so glad she has such a good mommy now to take care of her. I remember those before pictures in a post a few months back. Ouch! That wound is healing very nicely, though! Thanks for the update! laugh
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#322815 - 06/24/07 08:45 AM Re: Updated pictures of Leah [Re: Usha77]
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Anita, you are doing fantastic with her. Keep us posted on her and keep up the good work. thumb
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#322838 - 06/24/07 09:52 AM Re: Updated pictures of Leah [Re: Srlb]
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OH MY, I have never seen a wound that big on a suggie before. I think you are doing a fantastic job, keep it up. She will be all better soon. smile
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#322864 - 06/24/07 11:04 AM Re: Updated pictures of Leah [Re: Yaniah]
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She is looking amazing Anita! You said the med slows the healing and granulation, is that so hopefully there won't be a large amount of scar tissue?
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#322969 - 06/24/07 01:50 PM Re: Updated pictures of Leah [Re: BeckiT]
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Yes, Becki that is correct. The lesser or thinner of the scar tissue will help the hair folicals (not sure of spelling)to grow back in and nicely cover the scar to where there is just a small scar visible. This is what we are hoping for, but we are not sure on how big Leah scar will be, since her wound was so big. We'll keep everyone posted.

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#323046 - 06/24/07 03:13 PM Re: Updated pictures of Leah [Re: SweetGliders]
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She's looking great! Please do continue to update us on her progress

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#323216 - 06/24/07 06:04 PM Re: Updated pictures of Leah [Re: SweetGliders]
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thanks for the info Anita, learn something new every day smile If you don't mind, could you send the info on it to me @ BeckiT4GC@hotmail.com, please? I'd love to have that in my emergency info file!
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#324039 - 06/25/07 03:37 PM Re: Updated pictures of Leah [Re: BeckiT]
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Anita, if it's not too much trouble could you also please send the med info to me at traciebrandow@hotmail.com? Hopefully we'll never need it, but at least I'll have it on hand if we do. wink
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#324565 - 06/26/07 07:49 AM Re: Updated pictures of Leah [Re: TracieB]
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Could you send me the same thing too? I really need to start keeping things like this all together. glidergrl1513@yahoo.com Thank you!

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#325117 - 06/26/07 07:27 PM Re: Updated pictures of Leah [Re: glidergrl1513]
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Not a problem. I have sent the information to everyone that has asked me for it. Let me know if anyone else wants it.

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#325124 - 06/26/07 07:44 PM Re: Updated pictures of Leah [Re: SweetGliders]
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Thanks Anita - I didn't reply to your email, but I really do appreciate you sharing this info with us. hug2
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#325130 - 06/26/07 07:54 PM Re: Updated pictures of Leah [Re: TracieB]
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How come glider wounds are not stitched up? Do they have to heal from the inside out?

She has come a long way! I hope Leah is all better soon-she sounds very sweet!
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#325343 - 06/26/07 10:38 PM Re: Updated pictures of Leah [Re: Msdoolittle]
SweetGliders Offline
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Hi Msdoolittle,

Yes, that is the way their wounds are suppose to and need to heal. The new medication that I have been using is helping her heal at a slower and better pace from the inside out. There is no scrabbing for an infection to develope under and it's working out very well for my Miss Leah. It also helps minimize the scar so it doesn't have that big bulge of scar tissue under the wound area, especially in Leah's case where her wound was pretty big.

I will tell you some vet's do stitch up glider wounds, but I think it depends on the wound itself and the person's vet.

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#325591 - 06/27/07 06:03 AM Re: Updated pictures of Leah [Re: SweetGliders]
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When my DaisyMae had a similar wound (but about 1/2 the size) my vet did debride the area and put sutures in. Within 2 days, Daisy had almost all of the sutures removed. The vet put new ones in that were "90 day stitches" - Again, Daisy removed most of them within a few days. The problem with sutures and gliders is that they detect the foreign object and then become obsessed with getting rid of it. If left to heal on its own without sutures, the glider will leave the wound alone more and it will heal better and be less aggravating to the glider. After our learning experience with Daisy, the vet no longer uses sutures on glider wounds unless absolutely necessary.

Edited to add:
Here is a picture of Daisy's wound after she removed the "90 day stitches"... You can see that the wound had once more separated but was healing well after the aggravating stitches were gone. She does have a very large scar on her back now, though frown
Daisy's Back Wound


Edited by sugarglidersuz (06/27/07 06:09 AM)
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