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#374486 - 08/31/07 11:38 AM Commander Riker Update-Thyroid
Xfilefan Offline
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K...here's Riker's prior thread:

http://www.glidercentral.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/331914#Post331914

He has been on his thyroid hormones for a little over a month now...he started on 7/24/07.

Other than the dry ears, which are still an issue, the results have been amazing with him! First:

For those that don't know my Commander Riker:

He is 5 years old.
I got him at approximately 6 weeks OOP, from a gunshow, my first glider, and mill bred. He had a very hard start in life. He came to me with severe HLP, then Self Mutilated (cloacal SM). He was on me nearly 24/7 his first 6 months just to pull him through, then spent about a year and a half battling head/sinus infections. As a result, he will not accept a cagemate (and there have been numerous attempts). To him, I am his cagemate.

He has chronically overgroomed his head for over 3 years with no apparent cause. Although it started during the head infections, once that was cleared he still overgroomed, no matter how much attention was spent with him. He also has almost no appetite or energy level, yet was chunky. Plus he has chronically dry ears, all signs of a possible thyroid dysfunction.

He had a T4 thyroid panel run (blood test) - I know of no other glider that's had that done. The results were that his thyroid hormone was 'below detectable levels'...we don't know if a glider's thyroid hormone will even show up on the panel (as it hadn't been done on them).

We started thyroid hormone treatment with Thyroxine on 7/24. He has not weighed under 156 grams in over 3 years, and usually right around 160 (he's not that big).

Here's some before pics first. Next post will have a mid-month concern, and then will be the ones I took this morning and his current weight.

NOTE: this is not a thing to start lightly. Riker will be on these meds every day for the rest of his life. Riker is on a clinical trial of sorts-the first glider we know of to have undergone thyroid hormone treatment.

Before Pics:


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Riker55.bmp (89 downloads)
Mr. RikerGuy.JPG (75 downloads)
Riker's head again.jpg (68 downloads)
Rikers Mohawk.jpg (64 downloads)
RikersHalfMoons.jpg (71 downloads)



Edited by sugarlope (11/01/08 09:30 PM)
Edit Reason: fixed link
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#374488 - 08/31/07 11:44 AM Re: Commander Riker Update-Thyroid [Re: Xfilefan]
Xfilefan Offline
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Now, a couple weeks ago, I went to take him out of his pouch, and saw something really scary. The entire inside of his pouch was full of tufts of hair! shock Yet at the same time, his hair seemed to be filling in. confused Needless to say we went and had a talk with the vet.

Apparently, the hormone had caused him to begin growing hair very rapidly (in essence...molting crazy) His coat near his hindquarters actually looked like animals that DO molt (gliders normally don't). Well....it itched. The vet assured me it would stop (I REALLY hoped so! What was I going to do if it didn't? frown )

Here's some pics taken then, and of the pouch full of pulled out tufts:

He weighed 154 grams at this point.


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Rikers Tufts 02 08 2007.jpg (72 downloads)
Rikers Tufts 08 2007.jpg (64 downloads)

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#374491 - 08/31/07 11:49 AM Re: Commander Riker Update-Thyroid [Re: Xfilefan]
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Now, here's today. laugh While he's not nearly as active as some of mine, he's much more (for him) than he was, and more curious! He's done "molting", and no more tufts in the pouch! He's also looking good at a trim 145 grams! grin He's still fighting the dry ears (you can see it in the pics-I put more oil on them right after), but everything else is good!

His appetite is still funny. He does have less of a sweettooth (yogurt drops, lol), and I do have to hand feed him some, but he does eat a little more on his own now! (I think part of that is because he's spoiled and just want's his 'cagemate' (me) to wait on him, lol).

Anyhow, here's today's pics.

Thoughts are welcome.


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Riker 08 31 2007.jpg (76 downloads)
Riker 08 31 2007 02.jpg (71 downloads)
Riker 08 31 2007 03.jpg (70 downloads)

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#374501 - 08/31/07 12:14 PM Re: Commander Riker Update-Thyroid [Re: Xfilefan]
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Wow Jen, what an amazing difference! He looks great!
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#374502 - 08/31/07 12:15 PM Re: Commander Riker Update-Thyroid [Re: Xfilefan]
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Okay, first of all, what a sweet, handsome boy he is! mlove He looks great! I'm so happy that things are going so well for him (and you, too!). Thank you for the update & keep us posted!
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#374509 - 08/31/07 12:30 PM Re: Commander Riker Update-Thyroid [Re: Usha77]
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Lol, the hand feeding thing reminds me of Smegal... Gosh, I miss that little guy. He would refuse to eat when I was around and would dramatically crawl out of his pouch like he barely had any strength, then as soon as I would leave the room, he would pop out of his pouch, go nibble on his food and run on his wheel (he had this thing for running on the outside of his wheel instead of the inside, don't know what that was all about)... He was such a spoiled little boy, but I loved him, and he knew it.

You are doing a wonderful job with Riker. I kept Smegal going for 3 years while he was battling cancer... It's amazing the flights these little guys can put up when they know they are loved...

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#374556 - 08/31/07 02:06 PM Re: Commander Riker Update-Thyroid [Re: ]
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Jen,
I've been wondering how Riker was doing... thanks for the update and the pix! He's looking great! heart
I have an appointment to bring Mareki to her original vet (I finally found her again!) as soon as she gets back from maternity leave on Sept. 15th. One of the things I plan to ask her about is the possibility of thyroid therapy. (You remember the history, I'm sure laugh )
Give Riker a snuggle for me hug2 hug2 hug2
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#374569 - 08/31/07 02:44 PM Re: Commander Riker Update-Thyroid [Re: sugarglidersuz]
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Wow Jen he look so good. He looks like he has a bit more energy and is not as sad looking. His fur is much softer and more plush or better or not as clumpy looking. And that head is so handsome with all his baldness gone. ust amazing. You do some exellent medical research with the gliders and this is just another breakthough for us all.

Thank You and give that handsome guy a yogie from us here in CT
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#374637 - 08/31/07 05:13 PM Re: Commander Riker Update-Thyroid [Re: BCChins]
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dance Riker looks 100% better! What a handsome guy he is! No doubt, without your perseverance in the medical dept. and your love of gliders, Riker wouldn't be here. He is sure a special guy and has the best "cagemate"! smile

I love updates like this!! Thank you!!
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#374651 - 08/31/07 05:33 PM Re: Commander Riker Update-Thyroid [Re: SugarBlossoms]
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Jen .. this is such great news! thanks for the update!
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#374884 - 09/01/07 12:59 AM Re: Commander Riker Update-Thyroid [Re: Xglider]
RiverStone
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He looks great Jen; I'm so glad that the thyroid medication seems to be really helping him! laugh clap hug2

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#387959 - 09/27/07 07:37 AM Re: Commander Riker Update-Thyroid [Re: ]
Xfilefan Offline
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Figured I'd give an update...I need to weigh him again, but I believe he is now under 140 grams! Also, FINALLY, the dry edges to his ears are almost completely gone for the first time in years! His energy levels continue to increase, and he's happy and bouncy! smile

One interesting side effect...Riker, who has never, ever turned down a yogurt drop (or 2, lol) absolutely WILL NOT touch one now. He's developed even more of an appetite for bugs, though-go figure. Before he'd never take a mealie you didn't hand to him-now he'll eat them out of a dish with no issue-my crazy little guy!

I'll have to get you all some new pictures soon-you really won't believe this is the same glider. heart
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#387962 - 09/27/07 07:59 AM Re: Commander Riker Update-Thyroid [Re: Xfilefan]
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Great news and I am glad this seems to be working so well for Riker. We will be waiting for those pictures!!

Thank you for the update Jen.
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#387970 - 09/27/07 08:44 AM Re: Commander Riker Update-Thyroid [Re: BCChins]
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Wow Jen! He's eating mealies now! I know before you had to hand feed them to him.
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#387979 - 09/27/07 09:28 AM Re: Commander Riker Update-Thyroid [Re: glidrz5]
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I'm so happy to hear how well the little (littler!) guy is doing! smile I can't wait to see some pics! hug2
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#387981 - 09/27/07 09:43 AM Re: Commander Riker Update-Thyroid [Re: Usha77]
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This is great news! I'm so happy to hear that your sweet little Riker is coming along so well. FINALLY! Thank you for the update, and hurry with those pics!!! grin

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#388219 - 09/27/07 05:53 PM Re: Commander Riker Update-Thyroid [Re: LSardou]
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That's awesome news Jen! Riker is lucky to have such a wonderful slave smile
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#388228 - 09/27/07 06:18 PM Re: Commander Riker Update-Thyroid [Re: BeckiT]
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That is Great Jen ... thanks for the update ...
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#388279 - 09/27/07 07:44 PM Re: Commander Riker Update-Thyroid [Re: Xglider]
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dance Pics PLEASE!! grin

Way to go Riker!!! hug2
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My precious loves that left to quickly, Peanut, Katie
Isabella, Kiwi, Bonnie and Monroe.

Spread your wings and glide free of pain,
Until the day I see you again.

God speed my precious angels. I love you. Mama.

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#388463 - 09/28/07 01:24 AM Re: Commander Riker Update-Thyroid [Re: SugarBlossoms]
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I took some new ones this morning (yesterday morning? lol), and I'll try and get them off the camera and uploaded when I get off work today, and get him on the scale. cool This morning he bounced out of his pouch, and onto my arm (you'd have to know him-he would NEVER do that before...) and ate some mealies on my shoulder mlove I never thought I'd ever see him so joey-like again! Took the opportunity for a couple new pics while he was having his snack. smile
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#388471 - 09/28/07 01:57 AM Re: Commander Riker Update-Thyroid [Re: Xfilefan]
Leisl
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It's so good to hear that he's doing well! Congrats on his continuing progress!

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#388623 - 09/28/07 12:41 PM Re: Commander Riker Update-Thyroid [Re: ]
PeeperKeeper
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That's wonderful to hear that Cmdr Riker is feeling so good! I love to hear about animals getting their pep back. mlove

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#388688 - 09/28/07 02:10 PM Re: Commander Riker Update-Thyroid [Re: ]
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PLEASE STAND BY.....

Uploading pics....

Commander Riker at ONE HUNDRED TWENTY FOUR GRAMS!!! agree

grin party jump jump
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#388708 - 09/28/07 02:34 PM Re: Commander Riker Update-Thyroid [Re: Xfilefan]
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Sorry that took so long...here's the first 5...the last of 10 pics will be a "before" pic...how he's looked for the last few years. *sniff* I'm so proud of my little guy! laugh


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Riker 09 27 07 01.jpg (27 downloads)
Riker 09 27 07 02.jpg (20 downloads)
Riker 09 27 07 03.jpg (19 downloads)
Riker 124 09 28 07 01.jpg (18 downloads)
Riker 124 09 28 07 02.jpg (19 downloads)

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#388709 - 09/28/07 02:38 PM Re: Commander Riker Update-Thyroid [Re: Xfilefan]
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Next ones... The very last pic (Riker 55) was at the 160+ grams he was up until right before we started the thyroid hormones


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Riker 124 09 28 07 04.jpg (15 downloads)
Riker 124 09 28 07 05.jpg (13 downloads)
Riker 124 09 28 07 06.jpg (10 downloads)
Riker55.bmp (18 downloads)

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#388711 - 09/28/07 02:39 PM Re: Commander Riker Update-Thyroid [Re: Xfilefan]
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He Looks AMAZING Jen!
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#388723 - 09/28/07 03:15 PM Re: Commander Riker Update-Thyroid [Re: BeckiT]
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He looks really great! (Maybe I should send Gidget and Roo to your house to loose some weight! lol)
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#388763 - 09/28/07 04:26 PM Re: Commander Riker Update-Thyroid [Re: pappy1264]
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clap WOW Jen, he looks totally awesome! I am thrilled to hear that he is doing so well. Thank You for sharing and the update.

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#388769 - 09/28/07 04:37 PM Re: Commander Riker Update-Thyroid [Re: pappy1264]
RiverStone
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OMG, look at him!!! shock grin

He looks SO AWSOME Jen!!! jump

It's so cool to hear that he's getting so active, and he just looks like he's so much perkier then he used to be - just absolutely amazing!!! dance

I'm *SO* happy for BOTH of you - it just does my heart good to know the treatment is working so well. mlove hug2

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#388830 - 09/28/07 05:59 PM Re: Commander Riker Update-Thyroid [Re: ]
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He looks wonderful, Jen!!! laugh
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