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#39096 - 03/07/05 07:57 AM how i get a white baby?
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how do i get a white glider by breeding?
i have a female normal colour glider already
that means i must buy a while male glider for breeding?
i dont think it will be found in malaysia ...

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#39097 - 03/07/05 08:18 AM Re: how i get a white baby? [Re: gr8pots]
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I doubt it... and w/ a normal grey it would be really hard to get a BEW (black eyed white) even if the male was one...

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#39098 - 03/07/05 08:25 AM Re: how i get a white baby? [Re: ]
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oh. that mean i need two white to get a white one?
hmm. i remember there is someone who get a BEW twins out of a normal grey+white pair...
wow.. how lucky was her..

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#39099 - 03/07/05 08:30 AM Re: how i get a white baby? [Re: gr8pots]
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the grey she had was het for BEW, meaning it came from a BEW parent I believe and therefore had the genes to produce a BEW

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#39100 - 03/07/05 09:01 AM Re: how i get a white baby? [Re: ]
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Not only would you have a hard time finding BEWs in Malaysia (I don't think there are any), but BEWs will cost you around $2500. They're gorgeous <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/muchlove.gif" alt="" />, but certainly pricey.

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#39101 - 03/07/05 11:45 AM Re: how i get a white baby? [Re: ]
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You can buy two 100% BEW hets for around $2500 for both (depending on what coloration you get) I know from sheila (the place I'm going to try and get mine from) normal 100% hets are $1000 each and white faced blond hets are $1300 each. I'm hoping (once I get USDA licenced) to get a white faced blond 100% het and a normal 100% het to pair together. But that's all a future project <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> It is cheaper to get two hets though and your chanced of getting a BEW out of two hets is pretty good. I think the ratio is like 1 in four will be BEW if you have 2 100% hets for BEW.

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#39102 - 03/07/05 12:15 PM Re: how i get a white baby? [Re: ]
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normal 100% hets are $1000 each and white faced blond hets are $1300 each.

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ummmm, I'm confused... Why would white faced blond hets be that expensive? or is it white face blonds that are het for BEW?
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#39103 - 03/07/05 12:43 PM Re: how i get a white baby? [Re: ]
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From Sheila's Site
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100% Leucistic WFB Het $1300

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#39104 - 03/07/05 01:44 PM Re: how i get a white baby? [Re: ]
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />
"100% Leucistic WFB Het $1300" from her site...
A leucistic is a white glider with black eyes, this is not the same as a just a WFB (white faced blonde). This means the glider carries the leucistic gene, and these gliders are not very common.
I would love to have one someday..until then I will just dream. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/muchlove.gif" alt="" />
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />

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#39105 - 03/07/05 02:01 PM Re: how i get a white baby? [Re: ]
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There are many pairings you can do with this. One can be a leucistic with a leucistic but I dont recamend(sp?) it then you can pair a leucistic with any other color and always get 100% hets for leucistic and sometimes they turn that color and sometimes not and if not those are double hets. Then you can pair a Leucistic with a leucistic het and get leucistics 1 in every 4 and then you can pair 2 100% hets and then have babies 1 in every 4 and then you can pair a 66% and a leucistic together and then if they have leucistics then the 66% turns into a 100% and then you can pair two 66%s and then if they have a white baby then they both turn into a 100% then you can pair a 100% and a 66% and then if they have white babies then the 66% turns into a 100%.

Here is a punnett square to show you how it would be with two 100% hets and the A stands for normal color and the a stands for the leucistic color and Aa stands for a het.

A(this A is suppose to be above the first section) a(2nd one)
A AA(normal) Aa (het)
a Aa (het) aa(leucistic)

If you have any more questions please ask I hope this wasnt too confusing!!


Edited by KristopherDeRose (03/07/05 02:02 PM)

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#39106 - 03/07/05 04:11 PM Re: how i get a white baby? [Re: ]
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Dancing, it was a WFB het for Leucistic, not just a het for WFB. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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#39107 - 03/07/05 04:58 PM Re: how i get a white baby? [Re: ]
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> That's what I thought, just making sure. Dang old age can get to you sometimes!
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#39108 - 03/07/05 08:33 PM Re: how i get a white baby? [Re: ]
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If you dont know what het means it means that it carries the gene and if paired with another het then it can make that color.

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#39109 - 03/07/05 11:39 PM Re: how i get a white baby? [Re: ]
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BEW + any other color = BEW het
BEW + BEW het = 1 BEW out of 4
BEW het + BEW het = 1 BEW out of 4

but i don think we can breed the mother with the son!!!
that mean i must buy alot of suggie?

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#39110 - 03/08/05 12:01 AM Re: how i get a white baby? [Re: gr8pots]
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No you cant breed mother and son. And you are right on the Bew stuff.

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#39111 - 03/08/05 01:23 AM Re: how i get a white baby? [Re: ]
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O I think the BEW is 2 in every four maybe.

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#39112 - 03/08/05 01:24 AM Re: how i get a white baby? [Re: gr8pots]
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Registered: 10/25/01
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Correction...

BEW x 100% BEW Het... should produce BEW offspring 50% of the time. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#39113 - 03/08/05 01:27 AM Re: how i get a white baby? [Re: ]
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Yeah I was making punett squares and I was like oops I made a bad on the post so sorry about that.

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#39114 - 03/08/05 01:42 AM Re: how i get a white baby? [Re: ]
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Remember...there are other type of Hets available. 100% hets...do carry the white gene.

From there....there are Possible Hets with different percentage rates. 2 out 3 Possible Hets will be carriers of the white recessive gene. They have to produce white to be considered Proven Hets.
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#39115 - 03/09/05 05:54 AM Re: how i get a white baby? [Re: ]
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i doubt you would be able to get a "white" glider in malaysia, and even if you wanted one there are huge waiting lists for like years and even if you get on the list they cost heaps. and then if you manage to get one, theres no saying that you will get a coloured joey.

now it could just be me, and i definatly dont want to insult anyone at all and i completely apologize right now if i do. but i have heard that it is hard to find glider food and information and vet care in malaysia for gliders. and the only place you could buy them is in a pet store. so if you breed the only place you could sell your gliders is a pet shop or someone who doesnt kno what they are doing. so not sure if its a good idea to breed them in malaysia. just my thoughts tho. and sorry if that has insulted ne one in ne way.
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#39116 - 03/09/05 12:20 PM Re: how i get a white baby? [Re: ]
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... i never think of selling my joeys if i get them...
i just love em <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
i'm just gathering information
i knew i cant get it in here...sadly.

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