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#41875 - 04/01/05 02:54 PM bonding problems
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Hi we have a new baby was born around dec 25 2004, is a male and he lives alone, in a big cage, we have had one other glider before but she died : ( after 5 years, anyway this lil guy does not want to bond, not only does he bite he come's after you like a attack, i had him once rolled over in my shirt while sitting and he jump up and bit my neck, it seems are other glider bonded much more quicky we have had him now over 1 month, and he seems not much better he eats good, every time we go to see him he bites, even by approaching slow, even if your bring a nutt or a goodie he will attack that! what are we doing wrong? we try and spend time with him every night, to get him used to us and for us to get used to him... HELP []plymouth10@aol.com[/]


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#41876 - 04/01/05 03:42 PM Re: bonding problems [Re: ]
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Registered: 04/25/03
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Don't give up on him he's just scared. Try wearing a piece of fleece under shirt for a night and stick it in his cage to sleep with during the day. This will help him become accustomed to your scent. Have you tried caring him in a bonding pouch? When you have some free time during the day at home put him in a bonding pouch and sit with the pouch close to your skin. Whatever you do when he bites do not pull away and do not discipline (sp) him, it's best to just take the bite. I know it's hard but it works best. At most when he goes to bite make a Psssssst...sound this is what their mom does when they are doing something she doens't like. But if you discipline him it just strengthens his belief that you will hurt him. Just be patient and take it real slow. Some gliders just have a harder time adjusting to being held.
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#41877 - 04/01/05 03:44 PM Re: bonding problems [Re: ]
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Thanks for the advice, i will try anything to gain his trust Mike..

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#41878 - 04/01/05 03:50 PM Re: bonding problems [Re: ]
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Also have you tried licky treats? Try putting some applesauce,honey,babyfood,or yogurt on you finger. That way when he takes a bite he gets something yummy. Eventually he'll start to associate you with good things. Also lots and lots of handfed mealies work.
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#41879 - 04/01/05 03:54 PM Re: bonding problems [Re: ]
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Oh I forgot something else. Sorry it's been a long time. Lots and Lots of Tent time. Purchase a small tent from
wal-mart for about $20. Put a couple toys in their and sit in the middle of the tent so he has to interact with you. Also be sure to provide a pouch for him to go into if he feels to overwhelmed. Until you get a tent you can use a glider proofed bathroom. Do this for about an hour or 2 everynight make sure you use the licky treats and mealies. This helps a great deal. I'm sure someone else will be by to add other suggestions also.
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#41880 - 04/01/05 05:26 PM Re: bonding problems [Re: ]
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In the long run, you'll want to get another glider as a buddy for him. If you can, get a well tamed regularly handled bra baby. This one will most likely bond quickly and hardly bite at all. Gliders learn from eachother. If he sees that you aren't hurting the other glider, he'll be more inclined to mimic the new glider.
As for right now, take the bite, get a bonding pouch, try licky treats, find a toy he REALLY likes. If there is a food or a toy he just can't stand not having, save it ONLY for time spent with you. He will associate you with his most favorite thing in the world.

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#41881 - 04/01/05 05:27 PM Re: bonding problems [Re: ]
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and don't give up <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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#41882 - 04/01/05 05:36 PM Re: bonding problems [Re: ]
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Registered: 10/30/03
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Be consistant, Lots of Time, Much love and LOADS of patience!!

Best bonding pouch in the world would be the Sissy Pouch !

Helped me turn my rescue who seemed to hate humans and anything that resembled a human into a big ole love bug of fur!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumb.gif" alt="" />
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#41883 - 04/01/05 06:16 PM Re: bonding problems [Re: ]
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I'm not sure everyone will agree with this, but this is something that worked for me. My latest addition turned out to be VERY pouch protective. When we were having bonding time, she would crab her head off. Looking into the pouch was even worse - she would strike the "back off" pose and then lunge at me.

I found that if I got a medicine dropper and filled it with baby apple juice and put that in the pouch she would calm down much faster. She could lunge and bite all she wanted, but I didn't have to take the bite. (Plus, I couldn't keep myself from pulling away when she went after me - it was just instinct!) Eventually, she figured out that things poking into the pouch were ok, and I wasn't going to hurt her.

Like anything else, I used the juice in moderation, and I am sure that other juices would work just as well. (We never had a stool consistancy problem).

Oh, I should add that I only used this technique when I was wearing her in a bonding pouch. That way she would see my smiling face and could smell me the whole time.

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#41884 - 04/03/05 11:13 AM Re: bonding problems [Re: ]
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A great idea Snooze_button. Though I agree that you MUST take the bite, I prefer not to put myself in the position that the glider wants to bite me to begin with.

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#41885 - 04/04/05 11:37 AM Re: bonding problems [Re: ]
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What is the average bonding period, the female glider we had seems to have bonded in 2-3 weeks, this little guy is 35 days and counting, i sure hope he bonds , trying a lot of the suggestions posted here, he is about the same, very pouch protective, whats odd is you can have him in his pouch petting him and or touching him, and he is ok, you can remove you hand for not even 30 seconds and when you put you hand back in back to the biting, he almost seems like he does not want anything to do with us! but we wont give up, is there such a thing as a glider that will not bond?


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