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#422199 - 11/24/07 03:14 AM My HPW Making Adventure...
SugarBaby22 Offline
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I finally got around to making HPW tonight.. and since I had so many questions about it before I made it.. and couldn't come across any answers, I thought that I'd share my findings with you.

The recipe calls for:

2 cups warm water
1.5 cups honey
3 eggs
1/4 cup HPW powder
2 tablespoons bee pollen


And if you have breeding or nursing females it says to increase the HPW powder amount to a 1/2 cup. I made the original recipe.

First I'll share my purchases:

One 250g box of HPW -- $18
Two 5 lb. jugs of honey -- $20
1 lb. of bee pollen -- $15
36 eggs -- $6
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total: $59


I only made 5 batches tonight, but measured everything out so that I could breakdown what I needed and what the cost ends up being.

Some tips/info:

~~~> A 5 lb. jug of honey comes out to a total of 7 cups, leaving you a 1/2 cup short for the 5th batch. (luckily I had some leftover honey from BML).

~~~> A 250g box of HPW makes about 11.5 batches..

~~~> 1 lb. of bee pollen makes a total of 22.5 batches, so you can make two whole 250g boxes of HPW with a pound of bee pollen..

~~~> 1 batch of HPW is just short of being 5 cups.. 5 cups of mix makes 240 teaspoons, or servings of HPW.

~~~> One 250g box of HPW will make approximately 2,760 teaspoons, or servings of HPW. (there are 16 tablespoons in 1 cup and 3 teaspoons in a tablespoon.. so that means that there are 48 teaspoons in a cup.. 48 x 5 = 240... 5 cups x 11.5 batches = 57.5 cups... 57.5 cups x 48 teaspoons = 2,760 teaspoons (servings).


So if you break it down, 1 batch of HPW costs approximately $5.13 to make..

I may very well be wrong on some of these numbers, as I've confused myself quite a bit trying to figure this out. I HATE math.. lol I'm tired now too so it's not helping. tounge

If you find any mistakes please feel free to correct me. wink

**Do not try and make more than 1 batch at a time unless you have a large blender.. my blender has lines that go up to 5 cups, but it probably holds 7-8 cups.. when it is blending, the whole thing is FULL... If I had tried to double a batch I would have been OUT of luck!!**


Edited by SugarBaby22 (11/24/07 08:20 PM)
Edit Reason: math error
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#422239 - 11/24/07 10:00 AM Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: SugarBaby22]
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Linda that is a very nice breakdown!

The only thing I thought I saw that was off is: 1 lb. of bee pollen makes a total of 22.5 batches, so you can almost make a whole 250g box of HPW with a pound of bee pollen..

Beepollen has to make more then 1~ 250g box as the pollen makes 22.5 batchs and a box makes 11.5 batches.....So it should make 2 boxes right?

Please correct me if I am wrong???
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#422376 - 11/24/07 02:46 PM Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: BCChins]
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Wow, Linda! Do you have a LOT of suggies?? That's a whole bunch of HPW!!! shock

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#422384 - 11/24/07 03:04 PM Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: ]
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Thanks for the breakdown! That information is good to know. People are always asking how much a batch ends up costing and how much it makes.
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#422414 - 11/24/07 04:10 PM Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: melek007]
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*head explodes from mathy stuff*

So basicly, this:

One 250g box of HPW -- $18
Two 5 lb. jugs of honey -- $20
1 lb. of bee pollen -- $15
36 eggs -- $6
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total: $59

Is gonna last you some years?

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#422417 - 11/24/07 04:28 PM Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: ]
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Dave, that all depends on how many gliders you have... One box of HPW only lasts me a little over a month, but with just a couple of gliders, it would last much longer

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#422475 - 11/24/07 08:19 PM Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: ]
SugarBaby22 Offline
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Brenda ~ I knew there would be a mistake in there somewhere!! clap I'm going to correct that if it'll let me. wink

Well, my plan was to make the entire 250g box of HPW at one time, so I could have it all done and frozen as I HATE making batches so frequently... but when I saw how much it made I had to call it quits. It makes so much more than BML, I didn't realize it... but when I asked people nobody knew.. so I had to figure it out myself. lol The entire 250g box should last me almost 4 months.

If you have... (**approximate estimates**)

5 gliders.. a 250g box should last you for 552 nights.
10 gliders.. a 250g box should last you for 276 nights.
15 gliders.. a 250g box should last you for 184 nights.
20 gliders.. a 250g box should last you for 138 nights.
25 gliders.. a 250g box should last you for 110 nights.

... and so on.. (just divide 2,760 by how many gliders you have)..


Laura - are you sure that a 250g box only lasts you for a little over a month? You'd have to have about 50 gliders for it to only strech that far unless all of my calculations are off?

Speaking of.. how long can this stuff be frozen for and still be considered *good*? I don't want to make so much if it's going to end up going bad. dunno
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#422486 - 11/24/07 08:33 PM Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: SugarBaby22]
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haha I use the breeder formula, not the regular one, guess I forgot to add that tidbit in, lol.

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#422499 - 11/24/07 09:15 PM Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: SugarBaby22]
Srlb Offline
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Quote:
Speaking of.. how long can this stuff be frozen for and still be considered *good*? I don't want to make so much if it's going to end up going bad


As long as it doesnt get freezer burned it can stay in the freezer for as long as the BML or anything else could for that matter.

Linda, you rock girl, taking the time to figure all that out. I knew it was a lot but written like that just amazed me. However, one thing, you have it down as feeding 1 teaspoon per glider, I feed 1-1/2 teaspoons per glider.
Guess now its my turn to go play with figures!! ohwell
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#422941 - 11/25/07 04:22 PM Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: Srlb]
DaveF
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Yeah, well I have only 2. So I guess it would last a while

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#422942 - 11/25/07 04:27 PM Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: ]
Zucker
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Is the HPW for pregnant suggies?

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#422969 - 11/25/07 05:03 PM Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: ]
Laura_Leigh
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the breeder formula has double the HPS, which is better for breeding gliders. Most of mine are "breeders" so I use that formula for all of mine. They look great and they smell a LOT better than when they were on other diets (which is a BIG plus when you have several intact males, lol).

Several of my gliders have also been exposed to aflatoxin, and there are no grains in the diet, which puts my mind at ease as well.

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#422974 - 11/25/07 05:15 PM Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: ]
SugarBaby22 Offline
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roflmao Leave it up to ME to calculate wrong.. hahaha

Peggy -- I will REcalculate it tonight after work or tomorrow sometime. I haven't fed the HPW yet because I'm waiting for my BML to run out..

All in all, it still makes a LOT.
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#423269 - 11/26/07 04:19 AM Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: SugarBaby22]
SugarBaby22 Offline
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I guess I'm too late to edit the above post to the accurate measurements so I'm going to just add them in here.. grin

MY CORRECTION:
The HPW recipe actually states to feed each glider 1.5 teaspoons, not 1... so you can give a pair of gliders 1 tablespoon of HPW and be feeding them correctly. thumb

A 250g box of HPW will actually make about 2,070 servings instead of 2,760 servings.

If you have: (**approximate estimates**)
5 gliders... a 250g box of HPW should last you 414 nights.
10 gliders... a 250g box of HPW should last you 207 nights.
15 gliders... a 250g box of HPW should last you 138 nights.
20 gliders... a 250g box of HPW should last you 103.5 nights.
25 gliders... a 250g box of HPW should last you 82.8 nights.

...and so on. To figure it out, divide 2,070 by the number of gliders that you have.


Another thing that I noticed is that HPW melts EXTREMELY fast!!

Tonight is the first night that my kids are getting HPW, so I'll let you know what the plates look like in the morning. I saw a few of them eating it already.. *crosses fingers*

jump Thanks for pointing out my mistakes! wave
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#423448 - 11/26/07 01:43 PM Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: SugarBaby22]
SugarBaby22 Offline
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Plates cleared! laugh
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#423457 - 11/26/07 02:02 PM Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: SugarBaby22]
BCChins Offline
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Linda glad to here they ate their dinner for you!


Edited by BCChins (11/26/07 02:03 PM)
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#423664 - 11/26/07 08:36 PM Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: BCChins]
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That is so great! Linda, thanks for doing the calculations on cost.

I love the HPW diet, and so do my gliders!

I have to do a bit more thinking about which fruits and veggies to use - so that I'm getting something like a balanced meal plan fot them. But that is really minimal ... especially since I make the fruits and veggies in batches, too, and can do that all once a month or so...
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#430261 - 12/08/07 11:26 AM Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: ValkyrieMome]
SugarBaby22 Offline
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Gliding to the top, as I see a lot of people looking for this information. ~* grin
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#430607 - 12/09/07 12:54 AM Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: SugarBaby22]
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THANK YOU, Linda! This has been extremely helpful!
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#430608 - 12/09/07 12:56 AM Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: Dazzle]
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Wow Linda.. thanks for the information!! Mods can we turn it into a sticky ??
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#440198 - 12/24/07 04:37 PM Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: Laurens_Babies]
SugarBaby22 Offline
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Gliding to the top~*
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#440877 - 12/28/07 06:22 PM Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: SugarBaby22]
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One more question, Linda, how many servings does one batch make?
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#440925 - 12/28/07 08:09 PM Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: USMom]
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I made a double batch and it fed my 9 for about..25 days.

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#441175 - 12/29/07 10:58 AM Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: morksmom]
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Perfect, so a double batch would feed my 19 for 12 days and a single batch would do not quite a week. Thank you, Kathy!
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#448514 - 01/08/08 11:35 PM Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: USMom]
SugarBaby22 Offline
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Originally Posted By: USMom
One more question, Linda, how many servings does one batch make?


One batch, of the regular, not breeder formula, should make about 240 servings.. thumb
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#455052 - 01/17/08 04:53 PM Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: SugarBaby22]
GliderHeart
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ok - to add to the confusion - I only have two gliders - I tried the BML and it was tedious in my opinion - just buying all the various ingredients, and it was a bit expensive - I'm a full time student and working with < or = $1600 a month.

SO. I bought 2 starter packs from Critterlove: 2 x 1/4 cup HPW, 2 tble bee pollen. That would make 112 grams of HPW. I'm trying so hard to work out the math...but I admit...I'm having...issues.

Help please? I think it will last a good long time...enough that I can only get this maybe every couple of months.
I worked out: 2070/250 = 8.28. So 112*8.28 = 927.36. That seems like a looooooot of night. And is that taking in to account the bee pollen? Mathmatically I mean?

*small cranial implosion*

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#455058 - 01/17/08 05:03 PM Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: ]
GliderHeart
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ok - I did it a different way and got the same answer - 250/112=2070/x.
therefore
250x=231,840
and
250x/250 = 231,840/250
x = 927.36

Gaw. My head hurts. I'm too old for this crappola

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#455073 - 01/17/08 05:17 PM Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: ]
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One batch, of the regular, not breeder formula, should make about 240 servings..



So if one batch makes 240 servings and you have Two batches, that would make 480 servings. You have two gliders? so that mean out of the double batch you have you would be able to feed for 240 nights. grin

240 nights = approx 8 months???
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#455094 - 01/17/08 05:31 PM Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: Srlb]
GliderHeart
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Oh. Duh. One batch means the 1/4 cup. I was thinking 250g = one batch. See? I'm a hygienist, not a mathmetician. I can only do pharmaceutical math!!!! Not glider math!!!! Thank you for bringing an end to the madness.

Holy [censored]. We're set. So glad I went with the HPW. Easier and cheaper. smile And apparently it is great for the boys, which is the most important aspect.

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#455113 - 01/17/08 05:55 PM Re: My HPW Making Adventure... [Re: ]
GliderHeart
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Goodness. It's only about 3 bucks a month to feed two gliders on the HPW diet. Plus the mealies, which I'm not sure how much those are, since someone gave me a whole bunch, but they can't be that much.

Really.

That is amazing.

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