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#431790 - 12/10/07 11:57 PM Gliders and rabies related to body temp???
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I just read something that said since gliders have a low body temp of about 89 degrees...that keep gliders safe from many North America illnesses such as rabies. The body temp keeps them from getting or spreading it.

I am wondering how true this is or if it is totally true. I know nothing about the spreading of rabies...but since St Paul is trying ban gliders all together...I have to try some research. They stated there is no rabies vaccine for gliders...which is an issue according to them...gives them good reason to fight for the ban to pass...if gliders in fact can not get rabies though...that would be great info to help fight the ban.

Anyone that knows, or can find the info...please share!
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#431792 - 12/11/07 12:03 AM Re: Gliders and rabies related to body temp??? [Re: cinnamonstix]
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I haven't been able to find anything that would help. However, the CDC would know what temps are required for rabies to incubate-might be worth giving them a call.


Edited by Xfilefan (12/11/07 12:08 AM)
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#431800 - 12/11/07 12:16 AM Re: Gliders and rabies related to body temp??? [Re: Xfilefan]
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Who???

Do we know if this is an accurate temp for gliders?
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#431804 - 12/11/07 12:26 AM Re: Gliders and rabies related to body temp??? [Re: Xfilefan]
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Rabies is spread by contact with an infected animal, either saliva, blood or brain tissue. I would think that yes, a glider could host rabies, as the most common way it is spread is through saliva, which is in your mouth, and therefore cooler than the rest of your body. However, I'm not a doctor, and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, so...I could be wrong.

If they force gliders to have to have rabies shots, then all mamals should have to have them, including, but not limited to: rabbits, mice, rats, chincillas, hamsters, gerbils, STO's, flying squirrels, horses, whales and dolphins and any other you can think of. That was sarcasm. However, the point of a rabies vaccine is not to protect the animals, but to protect the humans around the animals, kind of using our pets as a barrier to nature. So, if gliders aren't exposed to it, then they would be exempt. Unless they are going to add a rabies vaccine to our childrens "before you can attend school" routine.

http://www.cdc.gov/rabies/qanda/general.html#a1
Read why does my pet need a rabies vaccine?

http://www.cdc.gov/rabies/history.html
Transmission

http://www.cdc.gov/rabies/epidemiology.html
See the table at the bottom of the page, most cases are transmitted to humans by Bats.

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#431805 - 12/11/07 12:26 AM Re: Gliders and rabies related to body temp??? [Re: USMom]
USMom Offline
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CDC, centers for disease control, where my links are from.
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#431807 - 12/11/07 12:28 AM Re: Gliders and rabies related to body temp??? [Re: cinnamonstix]
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Registered: 09/10/04
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Loc: 80 acres of paradise in KS
Center for Disease Control.

They can also tell you how many cases of reported rabies there are in your state/area and what type of animals were found infected.

Small rodents such as mice, gerbils, hamsters, squirrels, chipmunks etc RARELY get rabies.

It appears that the one rodent more suseptable to rabies are woodchucks but not many people keep those as pets!

Rabies are most often seen in racoons, coyotes, dogs, cats, cattle, horses.

This is a small part of one article... Go to the site to read more
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabies#Rabies_in_the_United_States


Edited by sugarglidersuz (12/11/07 04:49 AM)
Edit Reason: to remove off-site quote
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#431816 - 12/11/07 12:48 AM Re: Gliders and rabies related to body temp??? [Re: Dancing]
cinnamonstix Offline
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Oh...thanks guys! I printed out that thing that says rodents, ect rarely get it...I also emailed CDC just now...asking if the rabies and body temp thing is valid or not and also inquired about all cases of rabies inflicetd gliders in the US (if any)...lol...will update when I hear back!
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#431825 - 12/11/07 01:09 AM Re: Gliders and rabies related to body temp??? [Re: cinnamonstix]
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I think dogs and cats, along with other warm blooded animals have a normal body temp close to 101 degrees.

Sugar Gliders on the otherhand have a much lower body temp... thus do not develope Rabies.

Think in a bit... I will get a sugar glider out and take a body temp with the thermonoter under it's little arm. Be an interesting test.
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#431830 - 12/11/07 01:11 AM Re: Gliders and rabies related to body temp??? [Re: Judie]
Dancing Offline
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ohhh, how about that sweet little boy you wanted me to put the ecollar on for the demo. I bet he would LOVE that!
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#431833 - 12/11/07 01:21 AM Re: Gliders and rabies related to body temp??? [Re: Dancing]
cinnamonstix Offline
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So are we saying here...it is in fact true? gliders do not get/give rabies? Is that documented anywhere?
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#432180 - 12/11/07 03:19 PM Re: Gliders and rabies related to body temp??? [Re: cinnamonstix]
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Registered: 02/22/03
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Loc: Jacksonville, FL
I've been told that rabies need a specific temp range in order to incubate in a host...above or below that temp, even if exposed, it simply dies, so the animal can't host OR transmit the disease. I have not been able to find out what the exact temp range is, though. Most animals that get it run a normal body temp between 95-104 degrees. vets have measured a glider's temp between 88 and 90. HTH
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#432237 - 12/11/07 04:29 PM Re: Gliders and rabies related to body temp??? [Re: Xfilefan]
cinnamonstix Offline
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Ok...great...hopefully CDC gets back to me soon.
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