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#433163 - 12/12/07 09:46 PM I Need HELP, RIGHT NOW.
SugarBaby22 Offline
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Registered: 07/18/02
Posts: 5697
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
This morning Sarah (chinchillagrl06) sent me a text message and an e-mail letting me know that one of her girls, Lola, had passed away. She has a trio of girls from me (Lily, Lola, and Laila) and also 2 rescue males we picked up together, Jake & Twitch. (They live in a seperate cage from the girls).


She has had them for almost 2 years.

She took the girls to work with her today, and had her boyfriend keep an eye on the boys today.

I heard from her recently (via text), she has been at the vet since 3:00. She had her boyfriend pick her up and take her home early because the girls were not looking right.

They went home, checked on the boys, ended up grabbing them all, and taking them into the vet.

Her other 2 girls, Lily and Laila died. cry

Twitch was given SUBQ fluids and handed to Sarah to hold and keep warm.

Jake is "in the back" at the vet, recieving fluids, and I'm not sure what else, if anything. He is not doing well.

---> She is taking Twitch home with a SubQ injection, and Jake has to stay.

I need ideas on what the heck could be wrong with the gliders. None of them have ever had a single health problem, and for all 5 of them to be so ill, while living in different cages, there has to be SOMETHING severely wrong.

Sarah cannot talk right now, so I am getting bits and pieces of this via text messaging.

I am not sure what had been done, I'm sure she is going to get a necropsy done.. but I need ideas.


What tests need to be run on the boys? (besides a fecal)
Does anything come to mind?
What medications should Jake and Twitch be on?

I am not very calm myself in the matter of a crisis and I feel like all of my glider knowledge has just handed me a blank.
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#433166 - 12/12/07 09:50 PM Re: I Need HELP, RIGHT NOW. [Re: SugarBaby22]
BeckiT Offline
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Registered: 09/29/06
Posts: 16083
Loc: Manitowoc, WI
fecal float and smear, UA if they can get one...

almost sounds like a toxin of some sort to have affected them all.
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#433169 - 12/12/07 09:56 PM Re: I Need HELP, RIGHT NOW. [Re: BeckiT]
SugarBaby22 Offline
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Registered: 07/18/02
Posts: 5697
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
Her vet seems to think that it may possibly be bacterial.


Someone mentioned carbon monoxide poisoning, she is stopping to get a monitor on her way home.
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#433171 - 12/12/07 10:02 PM Re: I Need HELP, RIGHT NOW. [Re: SugarBaby22]
Srlb Online   grin
Glideritis Anonymous

Registered: 10/30/03
Posts: 16744
Loc: St. Johns, Florida
I was going to say carbon monoxide as well however, if her boyfriend was at home with them and he doesnt even have a headache than...

Does she feed crickets? A bad batch of crickets will do that. Anything that can carry aflatoxin...

Can they draw some blood? that would be the best bet right there.

Linda, if they need more ideas, have her vet call Dr.Tristan 361-994-1145

He will do a phone consult...

gosh prayers going out...this is horrible.
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#433172 - 12/12/07 10:03 PM Re: I Need HELP, RIGHT NOW. [Re: SugarBaby22]
SugarBaby22 Offline
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Registered: 07/18/02
Posts: 5697
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
She's actually calling the fire department right now to have them come check on the house and to see if it may be coming from the heater.

I told her to get her cats out of the house and her grandma, and for she and her boyfriend to stay out of the house, JUST in case.. to be safe.

She's 7 months pregnant and she could use a sedative right about now. frown

hug2 Sarah
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#433173 - 12/12/07 10:04 PM Re: I Need HELP, RIGHT NOW. [Re: Srlb]
PKGliders
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Oh I have no idea, but she's in my thoughts!! hug2

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#433178 - 12/12/07 10:08 PM Re: I Need HELP, RIGHT NOW. [Re: SugarBaby22]
SugarBaby22 Offline
Serious Glideritis

Registered: 07/18/02
Posts: 5697
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
She does not feed crickets.
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#433179 - 12/12/07 10:15 PM Re: I Need HELP, RIGHT NOW. [Re: SugarBaby22]
Usha77 Offline
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Registered: 03/05/07
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Loc: Greeley, CO
I just wanted to say that my heart and prayers are going out to Sarah and her family, skin and fur. hug2 hug2 Sarah, I am so sorry this is happening.
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#433184 - 12/12/07 10:22 PM Re: I Need HELP, RIGHT NOW. [Re: Usha77]
Shiloka
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since it effected every glider in the home but as of yet nothing has happened to the humans or felines. My guess would be
1) something in their food was spoiled/sick/ toxic OR

2) something in the air. carbon monoxide, new smoke. did somebody smoke a cigar/cigarette too close to the cages?
POSSIBLY
3) have her call the town hall and see if they have altered the Water lately. perhaps the town added extra chlorine or something to the water?

just my 2 cents

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#433201 - 12/12/07 10:42 PM Re: I Need HELP, RIGHT NOW. [Re: ]
Msdoolittle Offline
Glider Lover

Registered: 10/15/06
Posts: 582
Loc: Lake Worth, FL
Don't know if this helps- people's blood takes on a classic cherry red color if they have been exposed to carbon monoxide. I don't know if this would be true with gliders.
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#433209 - 12/12/07 10:47 PM Re: I Need HELP, RIGHT NOW. [Re: Msdoolittle]
Srlb Online   grin
Glideritis Anonymous

Registered: 10/30/03
Posts: 16744
Loc: St. Johns, Florida
Linda, I know you already know this, but crickets arent the only thing to carry aflatoxin, however, I asked about them because it seems like once a year a bad batch gets passed out. Ask about other food sources that could contain aflatoxin or maybe a food that was accidentally left out and then the gliders got it??
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#433227 - 12/12/07 11:31 PM Re: I Need HELP, RIGHT NOW. [Re: Srlb]
USMom Offline
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Registered: 05/11/05
Posts: 7356
Loc: Austin, TX
Have they sprayed for bugs? That was my very first thought, was a bug treatment.
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#433232 - 12/12/07 11:40 PM Re: I Need HELP, RIGHT NOW. [Re: USMom]
Dancing Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Registered: 09/10/04
Posts: 22746
Loc: 80 acres of paradise in KS
In another one of her posts, she mentioned crazy weather, hot then cold. What is that mold spores thing that Sheila had problems with? Clostridium??? could that be a possibility? Or something similar?
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#433244 - 12/12/07 11:51 PM Re: I Need HELP, RIGHT NOW. [Re: USMom]
SugarBaby22 Offline
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Registered: 07/18/02
Posts: 5697
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
I'm so sorry to leave you hanging, I had to run out and get some things for school tomorrow.

I just have to say, if it wasn't for Helen's quick thinking, Sarah, her unborn baby, her boyfriend, grandma, the glider she took home, and the cats may not have been alive in the morning. hug2 Thank you so much Helen.

Sarah's grandma got the cats out and left the house while she waited for the fire department to get there, they came out to check the levels of the house, and sure enough, it was their oven. cry

They are going to her aunt's house for the night and will only be allowed back into their home once the fire department clears the levels. Sarah has a doctors appointment in the morning to make sure that the baby is okay.

Thank you all so much for your replies.. when there is a serious situation that hits close to my heart, I always panic.

RIP precious girls, Lily, Lola, & Laila.


Please pray for Jake, he is still at the vets office.
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#433245 - 12/12/07 11:53 PM Re: I Need HELP, RIGHT NOW. [Re: SugarBaby22]
Dancing Offline
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Registered: 09/10/04
Posts: 22746
Loc: 80 acres of paradise in KS
Please tell her how sorry we are for her losses and that our prayers are with her, her baby, her family and her Jake.
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I could have missed the pain
But I'd of had to miss the dance


The soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears.

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#433246 - 12/12/07 11:58 PM Re: I Need HELP, RIGHT NOW. [Re: Dancing]
7glider7
Unregistered


Wow, this is awful, I hope everyone else ends up being OK frown Our prayers go out to her and the family.

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#433254 - 12/13/07 12:07 AM Re: I Need HELP, RIGHT NOW. [Re: ]
GangstersMom Offline
Glider Guardian

Registered: 07/24/07
Posts: 1157
Loc: Orlando, FL
Oh Sarah! Tell her we love her and are keeping her boys in our prayers, and that I am praying everything goes well at her DR aapt. This is just awful. frown
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#433260 - 12/13/07 12:19 AM Re: I Need HELP, RIGHT NOW. [Re: GangstersMom]
LSardou Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Registered: 03/01/06
Posts: 21060
Loc: Kansas
cry My heart is breaking for everyone right now. I pray that Jake will recover and that there is no harm to the unborn baby or the rest of the family.
God Speed Sweet Little Ones gangel

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#433276 - 12/13/07 12:57 AM Re: I Need HELP, RIGHT NOW. [Re: LSardou]
BCChins Offline
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Registered: 11/16/05
Posts: 3089
Loc: Central Connecticut
Sarah we are all thinking of you at this time. I am sorry for your loss of the girls and will keep you and your family in my thoughts and that Jake will recover. Hugs

Linda I am Sorry for you also as I know how much you loved the girls too. Please keep us posted on Sarah/Jake and the Baby.


Edited by BCChins (12/13/07 12:58 AM)
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#433290 - 12/13/07 01:21 AM Re: I Need HELP, RIGHT NOW. [Re: BCChins]
kthiessen Offline
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Registered: 06/04/06
Posts: 4526
Loc: Columbia, Missouri
I am so sorry!
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#433331 - 12/13/07 04:16 AM Re: I Need HELP, RIGHT NOW. [Re: kthiessen]
glidrz5 Offline
Serious Glideritis

Registered: 06/13/01
Posts: 7297
Loc: Quincy, IL
I'm so very sorry to hear your loss. My thoughts & prayers are with the other 2 boys and the rest of the family. ((((HUGS))))
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#433332 - 12/13/07 05:26 AM Re: I Need HELP, RIGHT NOW. [Re: glidrz5]
Flgliderlover Offline
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Registered: 01/01/07
Posts: 235
Loc: Florida
I am heartbroken for your loss, and praying for everyone (skin and fur) to be okay. I don't know that I would have thought to get the people and other animals out of the house.

Surely those who have gone before you to the rainbow bridge will be waiting to greet you one day. Those dear ones probably saved the lives of the skin folk in the household.

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#433346 - 12/13/07 07:23 AM Re: I Need HELP, RIGHT NOW. [Re: Flgliderlover]
sugarglidersuz Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Registered: 08/28/04
Posts: 14788
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
Linda,
Please continue to keep us updated on how the two males are doing worried

Sarah, I'm so very sorry for the loss of your three girls and I'm keeping the boys in my prayers hug2

Edited to add: and of course, I hope and pray that you, your baby, your Grandma, your boyfriend and the cats are all okay, too hug2 hug2 hug2


Edited by sugarglidersuz (12/13/07 07:32 AM)
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#433349 - 12/13/07 07:31 AM Re: I Need HELP, RIGHT NOW. [Re: sugarglidersuz]
SugarBlossoms Offline
Serious Glideritis

Registered: 02/23/06
Posts: 5830
Loc: USA
cry hug2 hug2 hug2 Praying the boys, Sarah and e'one else will be okay. I'm so sorry about the girls!
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#433354 - 12/13/07 07:51 AM Re: I Need HELP, RIGHT NOW. [Re: SugarBlossoms]
Ema
Unregistered


hug2 Sarah my prayers goes out to you and yours. I am so sorry for your lost. I will keep praying for the boys and hope that Jake gets to come home soon to give you comfort. Stay strong and I pray that everything and everyone is okay..Thinking about you in your time of needs... mlove

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#433361 - 12/13/07 08:55 AM Re: I Need HELP, RIGHT NOW. [Re: ]
pappy1264 Offline
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Registered: 08/31/06
Posts: 11015
Loc: MA
I am so very sorry. I keep carbon dioxide monitors on every level of my house (it is a law here). What a terrible tragedy. I hope everyone else will be ok. Please keep us posted and my prayers go out to Sarah and her family.


Edited by pappy1264 (12/13/07 08:56 AM)
Edit Reason: spelling error
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#433375 - 12/13/07 09:40 AM Re: I Need HELP, RIGHT NOW. [Re: pappy1264]
SugarBaby22 Offline
Serious Glideritis

Registered: 07/18/02
Posts: 5697
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
I just wanted to leave an update, it's almost 7 AM.. I haven't heard from Sarah again so I don't know how Jake & Twitch are doing.

I don't want to leave you hanging though.. so unless Sarah pops online, I would be able to update you until after school, around 3:30.

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#433378 - 12/13/07 10:01 AM Re: I Need HELP, RIGHT NOW. [Re: SugarBaby22]
Leyna
Unregistered


Thank God for those babies. If it weren't for them, everybody in that house would have been lost. Their sacrifice saved 3 peoples lives... I hope Jake, Twitch, Sarah and her family are all okay heart

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#433379 - 12/13/07 10:01 AM Re: I Need HELP, RIGHT NOW. [Re: SugarBaby22]
Cora Offline
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Registered: 04/16/05
Posts: 6573
Loc: Kilgore, Texas
hug2 hug2 hug2 To all involved in this horrible nightmare. cry
my prayers are with ya'll.
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#433405 - 12/13/07 11:34 AM Re: I Need HELP, RIGHT NOW. [Re: SugarBaby22]
SandSmammas
Unregistered


hug2 hug2 hug2 hug2
I am so sorry for her loss. She is in my prayers along with all the others that were effected. Her suggies saved lives! I hope everything ends up getting better for the other boys.

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