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#44045 - 04/24/05 05:52 PM Need Encouragement....

I have posted about this a couple times and I just need help. It just seems like the bonding process is hopeless. We have had the girls since March (I think) and one of the girls is doing just fine, no problems at all. She comes right to us and climbs all over. But the other girl is doing terrible!!! I almost think she has actually gotten worst. She crabs if we come anywhere near her, she actually lunges at us to bite, and let me tell ya....she can bite very hard. She just wants nothing to do with my boyfriend or I. We have done licky treats, some bonding time (we dont have our sissy pouches yet...they are on the way), and tent time. Even in the tent she will run around a bit, but if I move a little she takes off as fast as she can. We even have been putting some strips of fleece that we wear for a couples days in their pouch (we switch out the fleece every two or three days so that the smell stays on them). We have even slept with a pouch inside out for a couple nights then we put it in the cage. We have also slept w/ a fleece toy I made for them. I swear we have tried everything in our power to get this girl to understand we aren't bad...It just seems it is never going to happen. I admit a few times we have probably scared her when she escapes from the cage (I would say she has done it about 3 or 4 times) We do have to chase her to get her back in the cage. She runs all over the house and when we finally do catch her we have to grab her. My boyfriend has to wear a glove when we catch her b/c she bites sooo hard it draws blood really bad. I'm sure that doesnt help any as far as the bonding process...but how else are we suppose to catch her. Our other glider has escaped also, but when we catch her she doesnt shy away from us afterwards (it doesn't scare her to death). Please help me...I'm just very discouraged. I don't know what else to do for her. If anyone has any suggestions I would greatly appreciate it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

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#44046 - 04/24/05 10:54 PM Re: Need Encouragement.... [Re: ]
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Some gliders take longer to trust then others. Instead of using a glove to catch her, use a fleece blanket or a hand towel to throw over her then scoop her up in it and put her back in the cage that way. It is more gentle and not hand shaped. Don't get discouraged. I have one glider that was born here, was a bra baby then at about 3 months old totally changed. He wouldn't let me any where near him, wouldn't even take mealies from me, nothing. I gave him his space and now he is back to being sweet. I don't think he will ever be a bra baby again but that's ok. Just don't give up.
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#44047 - 04/24/05 11:11 PM Re: Need Encouragement.... [Re: ]

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It would be a good idea to keep the glider in a small room, like a glider safe bathroom until he becomes more used to you, and you get your tent. I would give them thier favorite treat each time they return to you as a reward, mealies are the favorite here. To start out, get a book or something to do while you are in there. Just let them explore a smaller place where they cant get hurt. If you have to catch them the best and less stress way is to gently drop a small hand towel over them and scoop them up. This way they don't see your hands and they won't assiciate that with you as much. The thing that may be going on is that she is bonding to the other glider more than you or your boyfriend, I would choose one to work with and let him work with the other one. Don't interchange and see where that takes you. I think it will help. Keep us updated on your progress.
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#44048 - 04/24/05 11:20 PM Re: Need Encouragement.... [Re: ]

We do have a tent and when in the tent she will sniff us a little but then take off. If I barely move while in the tent she just goes crazy! In the cage, when we reach for her or even reach for the other glider if she is near by she will go from one end of the cage to the other...scared to death of us.

I am going to try the fleece sounds a little more pleasant for her than a glove. Makes sense.

Any other suggestions as far as the bonding process we could be doing to help her along a little more?
Thanks for the replies!

#44049 - 04/27/05 04:24 PM Re: Need Encouragement.... [Re: ]

Erin, I completely understand where you are coming from. I have a little girl that I got almost a month ago and she acts the exact same way yours does. I'M SO GLAD I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumb.gif" alt="" /> I too am also like you where I am beginning to doubt ever getting a second one. My boy,Iggy, (my first) is wonderful and so sweet! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cloud9.gif" alt="" /> But, the girl,Nixie, will not let me g [:"pink"] [/] [:"purple"] [/] o near her. I have also tried treats and everything that you have. I just want to be able to love on her like I do Iggy. Keep me updated on your progress please! I would love to know how you are going! And if anyone has any other ideas I would love it!

#44050 - 04/27/05 06:16 PM Re: Need Encouragement.... [Re: ]

Well it's great to know I'm not the only one. I was begining to feel it was just me and I was doing something wrong.
I do have somewhat of an update...
Lately, my boyfriend and I have been doing tent time seperately b/c we were told we may have been overwhelming them if both of us were in the tent at the same time. Soooo...I sit in the tent w/ them for about an hour or two and then he sits w/ them until they get tired. We also were leaving the light on in the room where we were doing tent time, until the other night I got this idea that maybe it would help to turn the light off. Sure enough, they both started playing like crazy!! I couldn't believe how much of a difference it made. Another thing we have been trying is tent time every night @ 10:00. Before we did it about once a week and now we are trying to be more consistent. From what I can see (hopefully its not just wishful thinking) Thelma seems to be doing somewhat better. Not real drastically...just a very little. For example last night when I was in the tent w/ them, Thelma was in their pouch and I was trying to get her to come out and play by offering licky treats. Usually she would crab terribly and try to attack my finger. (OUCH!!!) But last night she crabbed a very little and acted like she was going to bite but then started licking my finger!! I couldn't believe it! She also let me pet her a little. It is too early to tell if she has really gotten better. Only time will tell. I will keep you updated. Let me know if Nixie gets any better and if you come up w/ any brilliant ideas!

Erin <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dance.gif" alt="" />

#44051 - 05/02/05 09:03 PM Re: Need Encouragement.... [Re: ]

having to do with tent time: do you have a blanket/towel/whatever to cover the bottom of the tent? The gliders tend to dislike the sound it makes when you move around in the tent (the shhh shh sound, kind of like wind pants, ya know?) that could be what is scaring her so much.

sounds like she is doing better, she is accepting treats and letting you touch her, thats a good thing. Things will probably go smoother once you get your sissy pouches. Then she will be able to spend more time with you. hope everything goes well! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

#44052 - 05/08/05 08:46 AM Re: Need Encouragement.... [Re: ]

Yes we do have a blanket on the bottom of the tent. she is still scared to death!


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