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#44059 - 04/24/05 08:36 PM Feeder Bugs
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Alright...so I know just about everyone on here feeds crickets and mealies to their suggies. Are there any other feeder bugs that are good for them if not better? I know Mikey was talking about hornworms and sometimes letting them have the hawk moths they turn into...I think he also said something about silk worms.
Any thoughts on the above bugs or any others? Or where I could get them? I want to give my suggies a good variety of live protein. Don't even suggest pinkies though *lol*.

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#44060 - 04/24/05 09:04 PM Re: Feeder Bugs [Re: ]
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ROACHES ROACHES ROACHES!

Madagascar Hissing Cockroaches, Gromphadorhina portentosa, have got to be the best feeder insect on the planet right now in my opinion. They are the best gut-loaders and proliferate, proliferate, proliferate, proliferate, proliferate, proliferate, proliferate, proliferate, proliferate, proliferate, proliferate, proliferate, proliferate, proliferate, with such ease! So adaptable to the most adverse of conditions, it's practically difficult to go wrong with culturing a colony of these guys. They can be ordered at www.tarantulas.com as well as a variety of other feeder suppliers, and they have always been relished by my gliders (the nymphs anyway!). Adult roaches have spines on their hind legs so I'd avoid feeding adults, and the gliders usually discard much of the adults' exoskeleton, often failing to reach all of the hearty guts in the process, so I usually prefer giving them the inch-long roach nymphs. I find that roaches that are about the size of large crickets or slightly larger are the prime size for glider feeding, and at that point you can pack them up real nice and big with the most nutritious of food stuffs, including left over glider foods, different animal kibbles, fruits/veggies, fish food, grains, etc. They definitely accept a broader range of food types than crickets and mealies!

They are easy to contain, aren't as quick as North American pestiferous cockroaches, are flightless, act more like beetles, and are interesting organisms in their own right! By far, if I hypothetically had to choose only one feeder insect to sustain an insectivorous pet of mine, it would definitely be the Madagascar Hissing Cockroach!

Mikey <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dance.gif" alt="" />

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#44061 - 04/24/05 09:39 PM Re: Feeder Bugs [Re: ]
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Agh god Mikey...why'd it have to be roaches?? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/roflmao.gif" alt="" /> Hissing ones at that! I'm not squimish about bugs, heck I used to stick them in my pockets when I was a kid...but roaches?? Agh...anything for the suggies though. They actually might be interesting. My mealie farm just isn't that enthralling =(

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#44062 - 04/24/05 09:44 PM Re: Feeder Bugs [Re: ]
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Oh, wait 'till you see the males battle it out and sumo wrestle eachother! They get pretty loud and violent! The sight is definitely worth watching! It sure beats staring at the top layer of wheat germ shuffle around as out-of-sight mealies squirm about under there! Plus, you don't have to look at those dreadful looking aliens *shivers*...

Also, you can sometimes catch a female laying her eggs, then assuming the egg case (known as an ootheca) into her body, where the eggs remain until she gives birth to the live babies! It's called ovoviviparity (or false ovoviviparity by some standards).

Mikey <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dance.gif" alt="" />

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#44063 - 04/25/05 12:25 AM Re: Feeder Bugs [Re: ]
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... roaches again.. ugh.. pass

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#44064 - 04/25/05 01:23 AM Re: Feeder Bugs [Re: ]
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Yuck no thank you. No way...no how...not happening...not now...not ever...NO

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#44065 - 04/25/05 05:39 AM Re: Feeder Bugs [Re: ]
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/offtopic.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Awwww Poor guys... unfortunately, as one can see the entire family of insect has definitely developed quite the reputation, even though a major portion of the taxonomic family of cockroaches (Blattodea) including the Hissers are non-pestiferous. They really are an intriguing group of insects, I promise! I can hear people already saying, <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> "That's fine but they can be intriguing outside of my house - THANK YOU VERY MUCH!" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/roflmao.gif" alt="" />

I don't get how can one say these aren't beautiful?
http://www.stetson.edu/~pmay/bugs/blattid%201.jpg
http://www.museums.org.za/bio/images/enb0/enb00931m.jpg
http://www.amonline.net.au/factsheets/images/cockroach2.jpg
http://www.amonline.net.au/factsheets/images/ellipsidion_nymph_bh.jpg
http://www.amonline.net.au/factsheets/images/blattidae_bh.jpg
http://www.biskitz4cheez.com/photogallery/Insects/Cockroaches.jpg
http://www.amonline.net.au/factsheets/images/cockroach_pet.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/oh2/Roaches/images/RoachmanDeath.jpg

Most of the above are actually more beetle-like in nature. This site has pictures of even more pretty specimens: http://www.angelfire.com/oh2/Roaches/

Those butterflies have it good I tell you! They've become icons of beauty, freedom, frailty, and peace. Have you guys seen that butterfly species that rapes the female cocoons that hatch late, thus murdering the helpless females in the process in a furious urge to mate?! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> Absolutely horrifying!

It's so funny how beauty lies in the eye. To me mealworms are much more unsightly! The way they seethe around all maggot-like! *shivers*

Mikey <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dance.gif" alt="" />

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#44066 - 04/25/05 11:33 AM Re: Feeder Bugs [Re: ]
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What about caterpillars(can o pillars)? They have much more meat on them then mealies. I've offered and only 1 of mine will eat (the same one who won't touch can mealies). I've only given her a few to see how she handels them because I haven't seen much feedback on using them.
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#44067 - 04/25/05 06:11 PM Re: Feeder Bugs [Re: ]
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lol thanks for all the info Mikey! I'll have to get me some roaches, that would be fun to watch!! Oh man, wait til my mother hears that I'm getting roaches. She already thought it was weird to have australian marsupials. Gotta call her if just to get a shock out of her!

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#44068 - 04/28/05 04:20 PM Re: Feeder Bugs [Re: ]
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Oestaira, You call your mother and tell her that, she will just tell you to go into the garage and catch your own. Or prolly tell you that you already have enough things living in your house. Well, if you get any, I will have to try one for mine. Let me know when your going to get them, I want to watch them fight. We can sit in your room and watch them fight while we make noises and act like were hosting a boxing tournament <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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#44069 - 04/29/05 08:01 PM Re: Feeder Bugs [Re: ]
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lmao Jon-Jon!

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