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#449903 - 01/11/08 01:43 AM Urgent, possible abandonment
Dempsey_Matt
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I came in to my room tonight and saw that my girl's joey was OOP. Naturally I freaked out and hit the forum. Judging from the pictures on http://www.geocities.com/gliderlove/joeygrowth.html the joey is about 60 days IP. It seems like it should be coming out now, but it was just left on the bottom of the cage. I'm really worried. What am I supposed to do? Will the mother take it back if she's near it? please respond ASAP. If you have any info that will help you can email me directly at dempsey_matt@bentley.edu. Thanks.

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#449910 - 01/11/08 01:59 AM Re: Urgent, possible abandonment [Re: ]
silverwolf Offline
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I would try and put her back in the pouch and watch them see if mom and dad act worried about her. Before you do that tho you need to put the baby in your shirt and warm her. If she is cold you could lose her. If it looks like mom and dad are not accepting her you may need to take her and start feeding with her. You will need pedylite and puppy formula and warm it then get a syringe a baby syringe will work in an emergency and place a drop of formula on her lips she should lick it off. Please let us know what is going on so we can help.

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#449911 - 01/11/08 02:07 AM Re: Urgent, possible abandonment [Re: silverwolf]
Dempsey_Matt
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Ok, so while I was getting the joey off of the cage floor the mom got out. I took the joey cupped it against my shirt and held my hand over for added warmth. I enticed the mom to climb on me and once she saw the joey a few times she let the joey get on her. I didn't want to try and grab her or anything so she ended up running off again before i could get her in the cage. I will update once i find if the joey is still with her.

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#449912 - 01/11/08 02:10 AM Re: Urgent, possible abandonment [Re: ]
silverwolf Offline
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Do you have a pouch they sleep in? I would check there first. Also you need to make sure you find this baby because if she is rejecting it then it needs to stay warm. Once a baby gets cold it is much harder to help them. Also if You have multiple sleeping places you need to remove all but one. That way she can't take the joey and hide it somewhere else.

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#449913 - 01/11/08 02:15 AM Re: Urgent, possible abandonment [Re: silverwolf]
Dempsey_Matt
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they only have 1 right now. i found the joey. She dropped it again in my room. he's on me for warmth right now. since she just dumped him off again, im guessing shes giving him the boot. next step?

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#449914 - 01/11/08 02:16 AM Re: Urgent, possible abandonment [Re: ]
Laurens_Babies Offline
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Is Mom out of the cage??? If so she could have just dropped the baby
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#449915 - 01/11/08 02:16 AM Re: Urgent, possible abandonment [Re: Laurens_Babies]
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Wrap the joey in fleece
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#449916 - 01/11/08 02:17 AM Re: Urgent, possible abandonment [Re: Laurens_Babies]
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#449917 - 01/11/08 02:19 AM Re: Urgent, possible abandonment [Re: Laurens_Babies]
Laurens_Babies Offline
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Do you have an emergency kit??? If not do you have an emergency vet OR a 24hour walmart near???
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#449918 - 01/11/08 02:20 AM Re: Urgent, possible abandonment [Re: Laurens_Babies]
Dempsey_Matt
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ok thats done. where should i put the joey now? i got the mother back in the cage. do i need to get food immediately? what do i get?

thank you both.

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#449919 - 01/11/08 02:21 AM Re: Urgent, possible abandonment [Re: ]
Laurens_Babies Offline
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Mom could have been scared when she was out try offering the joey once more by putting the joey in the pouch.. Is the joey still warm?? Stay by the cage and watch and LISTEN closely
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#449920 - 01/11/08 02:22 AM Re: Urgent, possible abandonment [Re: Laurens_Babies]
Laurens_Babies Offline
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where are you located?
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#449921 - 01/11/08 02:25 AM Re: Urgent, possible abandonment [Re: ]
silverwolf Offline
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Yes you need to get the food immediately! Also keep the joey on you I usually place the baby under my shirt in my bra to keep it warm. This is going to be a long process if this baby is to survive. You will now need to feed it every 1 1/2 to 2 hours for the next few weeks. How old is this joey did it just come out of pouch today or has it been out a while? Also we need to know how long it has been oop so we can better help. Do not try and feed the baby while it is cold the baby has to be warm when you feed. What supplies do you have right now? Also is there a daddy to this baby in the picture? Or is this a single mom?

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#449922 - 01/11/08 02:25 AM Re: Urgent, possible abandonment [Re: Laurens_Babies]
Laurens_Babies Offline
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If you have an emergency vet close you could try and get puppy/kitten milk replacer and a feeding syringe.. Do you have a heating pad and a glass tank or totebin?
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#449923 - 01/11/08 02:26 AM Re: Urgent, possible abandonment [Re: Laurens_Babies]
Dempsey_Matt
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ok joey back in pouch. mom seems interested. Baby hissing now and again. what am i listening for?

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#449924 - 01/11/08 02:28 AM Re: Urgent, possible abandonment [Re: ]
Laurens_Babies Offline
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any unusual sounds if the mom is making a "sneezing sound" that is ok but any crabbing I would be worried about
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#449925 - 01/11/08 02:28 AM Re: Urgent, possible abandonment [Re: Laurens_Babies]
Laurens_Babies Offline
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Check to see if mom is nursing
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#449926 - 01/11/08 02:31 AM Re: Urgent, possible abandonment [Re: ]
Dempsey_Matt
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ok heres the home life. Dad and mom are both together. Baby back in pouch. it's quieted down in there. mom is still in pouch with baby. tonight was the first time I saw the little guy. i didnt realize he was so big already. he was warm when i put him in the pouch.

I do have a glass tank as well as the plastic ones with the lids on them. I have to look around, but i do have a small heating pad. i don't have pedialyte, feeding syringe, kitten milk, or an emergency vet. there is a 24 hour Price Chopper about 25 minutes away.

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#449927 - 01/11/08 02:36 AM Re: Urgent, possible abandonment [Re: ]
Laurens_Babies Offline
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They may have puppy replacer there.. Keep a close eye on mom and dad and call Suz if you need further help Im going to have to go offline but you can call Suz and she can help you better than I can.. And there ARE emergency vets might be a bit of a drive but they would def have the #9 cathader and puppy replacer to use for feeding your joey.
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#449929 - 01/11/08 02:42 AM Re: Urgent, possible abandonment [Re: ]
silverwolf Offline
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Loc: Utah
I would get those things in case of rejection. Also you need to get the esbilac(or similar) puppy formula not kitten formula puppy is better for them than the cat one. also pick up a baby syringe. If baby is back with mom and dad I would just watch really close to make sure they are taking care of it if not your going to have to hand feed this little one. You will have to check out sugar glider suz's site for the incubator information because I have never really used one. I always kept the joeys on me while I slept in a chair for the first two weeks. But if this baby is being rejected then you cannot wait to get the supplies because if you wait until morning and they toss baby out it may be to late so I would get the supplies now. Also where are you located there may be someone close that could help in a emergency.

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#449930 - 01/11/08 02:47 AM Re: Urgent, possible abandonment [Re: silverwolf]
Dempsey_Matt
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Mom came out of pouch with baby nursing. his feet were hanging out, but that's normal right? I am in Douglas, MA. It's south central MA. Besides the obvious joey being left on the ground, are there any other signs that I need to be watching for?

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#449931 - 01/11/08 02:51 AM Re: Urgent, possible abandonment [Re: ]
Laurens_Babies Offline
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Registered: 03/04/07
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Loc: Kansas City, MO
Joey will be crying , if there are any bite marks, a cold joey.. I believe even in the pouch the joey can get cold if being neglected.
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#449933 - 01/11/08 02:59 AM Re: Urgent, possible abandonment [Re: Laurens_Babies]
Dempsey_Matt
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Alright, I will definitely be looking for those signs. Thank you again. You were both tons of help.

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#449934 - 01/11/08 03:00 AM Re: Urgent, possible abandonment [Re: ]
Laurens_Babies Offline
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No problem keep us posted
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#449935 - 01/11/08 03:02 AM Re: Urgent, possible abandonment [Re: Laurens_Babies]
silverwolf Offline
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Registered: 06/15/05
Posts: 1732
Loc: Utah
Yes let us know I hope all goes well for you and your little ones. Keep us posted I will check the board again in the morning as soon as I get us just need sleep tonight.

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#449937 - 01/11/08 03:56 AM Re: Urgent, possible abandonment [Re: silverwolf]
SweetGliders Offline
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Loc: Tulsa, OK, USA
Any News? You will need a #5 Cath. for feeding, 1 CC syringe, esbilac powder puppy milk. Always make sure the baby is warm before trying to feed a rejected joey. The parents will reject a cold baby.

Keep us posted.

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#449938 - 01/11/08 03:59 AM Re: Urgent, possible abandonment [Re: silverwolf]
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Is the joey nursing from mom now?
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#450070 - 01/11/08 10:59 AM Re: Urgent, possible abandonment [Re: cinnamonstix]
Dempsey_Matt
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So they made it through the night together. The Joey is pretty much back in mom's pouch (a few odds and ends are sticking out). Joey is nursing and I didn't hear any out of the ordinary noises. I'm still going to keep an eye on it, but it seems like things are good for now. Thanks to everyone for your help and concern.

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#450075 - 01/11/08 11:12 AM Re: Urgent, possible abandonment [Re: ]
LSardou Offline
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I'm happy to hear that so far the joey is back with mom and she is accepting it. I would suggest that you go ahead and gather up the supplies necessary for hand raising just in case. Sometimes they still will reject them. Let's pray that she doesn't, but it's better to be safe and prepared. Also, please jot this phone number down you will want to talk to Sugarglidersuz, she is exceptionally knowledgable with Breeding and Babies and she will be more than happy to talk with you ant time of the day or night.
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Please don't hesitate to call her! Wishing you all the best for your new little one! Sending hugs and prayers your way... hug2

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