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#451839 - 01/14/08 11:06 AM generation question
Jennifer_Maaske Offline
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Registered: 03/05/07
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ok, I have a question on the generations of wfb's.

as I'm told,

two 2nd generation wfb parents makes a 3rd generation baby.

one 2nd gen parent and a 3rd gen parent also make a 3rd gen baby.

but a 2nd gen and a 4th gen also make a 3rd gen.


You'd think you'd get a higher generation because your putting them with a higher generation.
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#451858 - 01/14/08 11:25 AM Re: generation question [Re: Jennifer_Maaske]
BeckiT Offline
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when you pair 2 different gens, there's no way for the joey(s) to be more than 1 gen higher than the lowest gen. because the lowest gen doesn't have the same amount of the gene behind them

Using your example: 2nd gen + 9th gen (yes, I know there are none, lol) - you'd still only get a 3+ gen baby wink
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#451867 - 01/14/08 11:38 AM Re: generation question [Re: BeckiT]
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Becki is right but maybe this will help a little..

a 2nd gen and a 3rd gen will produce a 3.5 gen.

a 2nd gen and a 4th gen will produce a 3+ something gen.

You can actually calculate out the + fraction if you wish but many will just add on the + so that you know one of the parents is a higher generation.

Or they will list the joey as a 3rd gen from a 2nd gen and a 5th gen parents.
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#451920 - 01/14/08 01:11 PM Re: generation question [Re: Dancing]
Jennifer_Maaske Offline
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ok, thanks.
I was wondering because I have a 2gen female pregnant with a 4th gen male.

so the babies will be a 3+
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#451981 - 01/14/08 02:11 PM Re: generation question [Re: Jennifer_Maaske]
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I have a pair that is a 2nd gen & a 4th gen and I sell the babies as 3+ gens.
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#452008 - 01/14/08 02:36 PM Re: generation question [Re: Lynsie]
Jennifer_Maaske Offline
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and how much are 3+ worth?

the wfb's and the Het's.
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#452060 - 01/14/08 03:53 PM Re: generation question [Re: Jennifer_Maaske]
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There is no such thing as Het for WF. Either a glider IS a wf or it isn't. Sorry but no hets. In order for a glider to be a wf, atleast one parent has to be a wf. You can't put two greys together (even if they have wf parents) and get a wf joey from them.

I think all gliders are priceless. How much you might be able to sell the joeys for depends on where you are and who you are trying to sell to.
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#452345 - 01/14/08 09:17 PM Re: generation question [Re: Dancing]
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OK, now I am confused AGAIN! dunno I was told that a glider that has WF parent(s) but does not exhibit the characteristics of a WF is a WF Het. And that it can pass on the color even tho it doesn't show the color. Now I am reading there are no such things as a WF Het.

So, Mom is WF, dad is gray. Joey has bars under ears, he's just a gray and not a WF Het?

Can a glider be a blonde but not WF?

And if this is true, I was seriously misled when purchasing my gliders! Glad I have been advertising my male as a gray! shakehead


Edited by Jass1990 (01/14/08 09:18 PM)
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#452367 - 01/14/08 09:41 PM Re: generation question [Re: GliderNursery]
BeckiT Offline
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there is no such thing as a wf het, otherwise, you'd be able to put 2 hets together and produce wf babies. I think some breeders do advertise them as hets to let you know they have at least one wf parent, but, a better way is to just say "from a wf mom/dad" or from wf parents (something along those lines)..

Yes, a glider can be a blonde, but not a wf.



Originally Posted By: Jass1990
So, Mom is WF, dad is gray. Joey has bars under ears, he's just a gray and not a WF Het?
Correct, just a grey.
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#452402 - 01/14/08 09:56 PM Re: generation question [Re: BeckiT]
GliderNursery Offline
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Loc: North Central Ohio
OK - Thanks. Like I said, glad I listed the male as a grey. The next set is literally hanging OOP, except for the faces! Can't see their color yet.
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