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#455291 - 01/17/08 10:42 PM E Collar Help!
SuggieLuver4941
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Tonight, I came to check on peanut, and was curious as to how her cast is. She's been chewing on it, and needs to stop. I'm taking her to the vet tomorrow, but need to put an ec collar on her now. How do you hold a suggie still enough to put one on her? I've had an easier time giving Pickles Sub-q than hold her still. I've tried to put it on her, but everytime it gets around her head, she freaks and scrunches up. Help!!

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#455298 - 01/17/08 10:51 PM Re: E Collar Help! [Re: ]
SuggieLuver4941
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OH MY GOSH! I AM IN PANIC!! I just tried to make her hold still, and noticed the cast had been chewed into 2 pieces. She's going crazy. And underneath is the scariest thing I have ever seen. THERE IS NO SKIN! I seen her bone, and now I'm [censored] out. Everything's been fine until now. No nothing. I have no idea what to do to make her stop moving. She's walking around on it like it's nothing. I am [censored] out. Someone please help me!

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#455306 - 01/17/08 10:57 PM Re: E Collar Help! [Re: ]
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Wrap her up like a burrito in a piece of fleece so she can't do any more chewing, i'm going to look for a post with help!
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#455309 - 01/17/08 11:00 PM Re: E Collar Help! [Re: BeckiT]
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#455318 - 01/17/08 11:13 PM Re: E Collar Help! [Re: BeckiT]
SuggieLuver4941
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Okay. I got it on her, but now she's going crazy. Never mind, she got it off. I have no idea what to do. She us getting the cast off from walking. I have no idea what to do. Someone help me please!

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#455323 - 01/17/08 11:16 PM Re: E Collar Help! [Re: ]
LSardou Offline
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Is there a vet local to where you can at least get a sedative to try and get her to relax? I would wrap her like BeckiT suggested until you can get an ecolar on her, otherwise she will cause more damage....

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#455324 - 01/17/08 11:18 PM Re: E Collar Help! [Re: LSardou]
SuggieLuver4941
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It's 12:15 in the morning here. I have no idea where there could be a vet. And, my parents are sleeping. She has a fear of being held since she was mistreated by her previous owners, and is going psycho.

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#455333 - 01/17/08 11:25 PM Re: E Collar Help! [Re: ]
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OK, there is no other choice at the moment, but you need to get someone to help you get an ecolar on her NOW!
Please call me and I will help get you thru it...
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#455368 - 01/18/08 12:09 AM Re: E Collar Help! [Re: LSardou]
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It looks like you're in good hands if you're talking to Linda now. You will probably have to wake up your parents, at the very least, to help you get the e-collar on. But do find an emergency vet—any vet will do in this situation—and have one of them drive you down. Imagine the pain your poor little girl is in. frown Imagine the pain you'd be in if you chewed through your skin to the bone. She needs pain meds or something to help her through the night. Maybe someone in your neck of the woods can help you locate a good vet. Here's what we have in our database for Kentucky.

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#455385 - 01/18/08 12:35 AM Re: E Collar Help! [Re: KattyM]
SuggieLuver4941
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Okay, I did what LSardou told me to and if it wasn't for her, I don't think I could've done it. She has no foot. While talking to her, I was trying to put on the e collar when the whole cast just slid off. And I have never seen a more scary sight then a bone with nothing on the end, the foot hanging by the muscle. I freaked out while on the phone. I managed to get the e-collar on, and did what I was told as to the foot. I have it wrapped up with neosporin on it in fleece. It took me a long time to get it, but it's on. She finally stopped moving, and is just sitting there. My parents took it worse than I did. My mom wouldn't come out of the room, but my dad did help me with the e-collar. I can't believe all this is happening. It's like a bad dream. I'm already not going to school tomorrow because I've had the flu, so I have no problem staying up all night. I know she's in pain because she bit me for the first time ever. I'm taking her to a vet tomorrow ASAP, but I have no idea as to what they can do. There is no way they can save her foot. It's gone pretty high up, so I don't know how their going to put something over it. I'm taking her to a different vet. If my old vet's cast didn't work, and this happened, I sure aint gonna take her there again, though their very good with suggies. She doesn't want to eat or drink, just get the e-collar off.

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#455392 - 01/18/08 12:46 AM Re: E Collar Help! [Re: ]
LSardou Offline
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Loc: Kansas
cry I am so sorry that you and your sweet little girl have to go thru this. I have to say, you did a great job with being calm and persistant with getting the ecolar on.
Please try and get some rest....many many hugs to you and your little one...(PS...your sister was great with helping too) hug2


If you have a syringe try and force feed her some liquids. Do you have Pedialyte? You can try and also liquify some of her meal to get her to eat as well. Tomorrow you can stop off at a pet store and pick up these
Feeders for Glider in ecollars


Please don't hesitate to call again if you need to, or if you just need to talk...

I'm going to move this to Health and Hygiene now.

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#455402 - 01/18/08 02:07 AM Re: E Collar Help! [Re: LSardou]
Xfilefan Offline
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Registered: 02/22/03
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Loc: Jacksonville, FL
I've been talking to sugar blossoms who's been talking to her-I'm swamped at work tonight. It needs cleaned, I gave SugarBlossoms a mild dish soap/water recipe to clean the wound-parents won't go for vet until morning. Trying to figure an acceptable way to get meds to this glider also. Infection is now the enemy.

Just don't wrap the wound-let the air get to it. Neosporin is good, also, but it needs cleaned before applying also to help avoid trapping bacteria under the ointment on such a large wound. Don't apply too much neosporin, either-just a thin coating. Keep her with you all night and do not let her chew on what's left of the leg. Amputation may be necessary at this point, but she should do just fine-many gliders have with 3 legs. But we're not there yet-for now just try and keep it clean and keep her away from it. Also keep her warm (which is why on you is preferable, to share body heat) to help keep her from going into shock. Keep her hydrated-push fluids and watery fruits as well. hug2
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#455403 - 01/18/08 02:12 AM Re: E Collar Help! [Re: Xfilefan]
Xfilefan Offline
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Registered: 02/22/03
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Loc: Jacksonville, FL
Betadine in the dish soap would be preferable, but if you have a dish soap with NO OXY anything, or bleach, put a little in a cup and mix with warm water. You want it just sudsy, not heavily soapy. HOLD THE STUMP and any open wound IN THE CUP for 10-15 seconds, then rinse well. Then apply a thin coat of neosporin with a qtip or cotton ball (the acids in your fingers could sting even thru the ointment-you don't want to touch it if you can avoid it...keep things as sterile as possible.

Temp wise on the water-you want it to feel to your wrist almost as if it's not there at all.

Also, DO NOT let them put another cast on there-I have a feeling it may have contributed.

And don't panic-we're here to help.

Also, the tape is the tricky part on the collars. Attach it to one side (I usually put it on the left) before trying to put the collar on the glider-once it's tight, just run your finger over to attach the other half of the tape. It doesn't need to be pretty or look perfect-it just has to stay on. Adjustments can be made later when she settles down. hug2


Edited by Xfilefan (01/18/08 02:34 AM)
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#455405 - 01/18/08 02:31 AM Re: E Collar Help! [Re: Xfilefan]
SugarBlossoms Offline
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Still on phone with Peanut's mom...she is in e collar now. She's mad, we are waiting on vet to open.
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My precious loves that left to quickly, Peanut, Katie
Isabella, Kiwi, Bonnie and Monroe.

Spread your wings and glide free of pain,
Until the day I see you again.

God speed my precious angels. I love you. Mama.

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#455406 - 01/18/08 02:37 AM Re: E Collar Help! [Re: SugarBlossoms]
Xfilefan Offline
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Loc: Jacksonville, FL
The glider's mad, or Peanut's mom? Normally I'd say to let the glider fight the collar on a blanket on the floor, but with the condition of the leg-I would not in this case. Have her keep holding her. You don't want any lint or debris in the wound. Holding her will also help her stay warmer and stave off shock. Like I posted earlier, have her push fluids-on a spoon. Canteloupe, grape, watermelon can be crushed and offered on a spoon also, or babyfood fruit.
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#455407 - 01/18/08 02:45 AM Re: E Collar Help! [Re: Xfilefan]
SugarBlossoms Offline
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e collar is back on...keeps getting it off.

glider is mad, glider's mom is upset..but calm now.

ignore all my punctuation...on 2 phones right now
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Isabella, Kiwi, Bonnie and Monroe.

Spread your wings and glide free of pain,
Until the day I see you again.

God speed my precious angels. I love you. Mama.

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#455408 - 01/18/08 02:46 AM Re: E Collar Help! [Re: SugarBlossoms]
SugarBlossoms Offline
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peanut ate mealies, had water...fell asleep for about a minute
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Keeper of Handprints on my Heart, You left your Footprints on my soul.
My precious loves that left to quickly, Peanut, Katie
Isabella, Kiwi, Bonnie and Monroe.

Spread your wings and glide free of pain,
Until the day I see you again.

God speed my precious angels. I love you. Mama.

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#455413 - 01/18/08 03:03 AM Re: E Collar Help! [Re: SugarBlossoms]
Xfilefan Offline
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Registered: 02/22/03
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Loc: Jacksonville, FL
Sending e-hugs for Mom. hug2

Tell her to hang in there. As long as she's holding her, she can put the collar back on and keep trying. It's tedious, but eventually it'll stay. It has to be tight, and the nose darkening some is okay-red/reddish. It's blue you don't want to see-that means it's too tight and there's not enough air getting through.
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#455417 - 01/18/08 03:22 AM Re: E Collar Help! [Re: Xfilefan]
SuggieLuver4941
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Typing with one hand. Hard. Peanut is in e-collar sleeping finally. I think all her trying to get out of e-collar has her exhausted. Going to do the dish soap thing now that shes stopped moving. Finally stopped struggling against me. On phone with sugar blossoms while holding her. Is warm.

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#455418 - 01/18/08 03:30 AM Re: E Collar Help! [Re: ]
SugarBlossoms Offline
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Loc: USA
nose is pink. mom is trying to get a pic and upload it
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Keeper of Handprints on my Heart, You left your Footprints on my soul.
My precious loves that left to quickly, Peanut, Katie
Isabella, Kiwi, Bonnie and Monroe.

Spread your wings and glide free of pain,
Until the day I see you again.

God speed my precious angels. I love you. Mama.

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#455420 - 01/18/08 03:58 AM Re: E Collar Help! [Re: SugarBlossoms]
SugarBlossoms Offline
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Loc: USA
Peanut foot/leg

WARNING..GRAPHIC
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Keeper of Handprints on my Heart, You left your Footprints on my soul.
My precious loves that left to quickly, Peanut, Katie
Isabella, Kiwi, Bonnie and Monroe.

Spread your wings and glide free of pain,
Until the day I see you again.

God speed my precious angels. I love you. Mama.

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#455421 - 01/18/08 04:03 AM Re: E Collar Help! [Re: SugarBlossoms]
Xfilefan Offline
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Registered: 02/22/03
Posts: 8899
Loc: Jacksonville, FL
Poor baby! Looks like some of the toes are still there though-so that's very good! hug2
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#455422 - 01/18/08 04:08 AM Re: E Collar Help! [Re: Xfilefan]
SuggieLuver4941
Unregistered


Yes, foot still there, but dead and hanging by who knows what.

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#455423 - 01/18/08 04:08 AM Re: E Collar Help! [Re: Xfilefan]
Laurens_Babies Offline
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hug2 I hope everything works out!!! hug2
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#455424 - 01/18/08 04:10 AM Re: E Collar Help! [Re: Laurens_Babies]
Laurens_Babies Offline
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sorry I have nothing else to offer **KNOCKS ON MAJOR WOOD** I have never had to deal with this situation.
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#455425 - 01/18/08 04:14 AM Re: E Collar Help! [Re: Laurens_Babies]
SugarBlossoms Offline
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Registered: 02/23/06
Posts: 5830
Loc: USA
Jen, no bone connecting, foot is just hanging. frown
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Keeper of Handprints on my Heart, You left your Footprints on my soul.
My precious loves that left to quickly, Peanut, Katie
Isabella, Kiwi, Bonnie and Monroe.

Spread your wings and glide free of pain,
Until the day I see you again.

God speed my precious angels. I love you. Mama.

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#455427 - 01/18/08 04:48 AM Re: E Collar Help! [Re: SugarBlossoms]
Xfilefan Offline
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Registered: 02/22/03
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Loc: Jacksonville, FL
Then it's best for her it come off into healthy tissue. Infection wise, though-I had imagined much worse as far as outside damage. Not that it's in good shape by any means-but not as deep as I'd feared. That's good for how fast infection is likely to get in/spread, and the likelihood of shock, was the point to the comment. All it is now is a burden to her-it will also be easier to deal with for you both once removed and closed, than what you and she have been dealing with. Pain meds, antibiotics, and a collar while she heals, and she should do fine. The wound will be much quicker to heal than the break was also.


Edited by Xfilefan (01/18/08 04:49 AM)
Edit Reason: spelling
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#455428 - 01/18/08 04:58 AM Re: E Collar Help! [Re: Xfilefan]
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Awww poor little peanut and momma. Just wanted you to know I am keeping you both in my thoughts and prayers.

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#455431 - 01/18/08 05:04 AM Re: E Collar Help! [Re: mommawannabe]
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Just wanted to let you know that you and Peanut are in my prayers hug2 You are doing a great job and you are in very good hands! I'm so sorry you have to go through all of this lately.

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#455441 - 01/18/08 05:55 AM Re: E Collar Help! [Re: glidergrl1513]
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You've done a great job with Peanut through the night. I'm so glad that Linda, Jen and SugarBlossoms were able to help you get through all of that. hug2 to you for being so strong for your glider and for your quick thinking and action hug2 Please continue to keep us updated as we'll all be worrying about Peanut and keeping both of you in our prayers gangel
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