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#455612 - 01/18/08 12:03 PM Micrichipping Gliders?
GliderMomma
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I was just wondering if anyone has their glider microchipped. Or has asked their vet if gliders are big enough to be microchipped. Does anyone think it would be a good idea to microchip gliders (if it's able to be done)?

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#455614 - 01/18/08 12:05 PM Re: Micrichipping Gliders? [Re: ]
BeckiT Offline
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there is a member (Ganesh) in France that had to have hers chipped in order to be able to have them.

I'm going to move this to health wink
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#455616 - 01/18/08 12:09 PM Re: Micrichipping Gliders? [Re: BeckiT]
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#455617 - 01/18/08 12:10 PM Re: Micrichipping Gliders? [Re: BeckiT]
USMom Offline
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I wouldn't unless I had to. Those chips are about the size of a grain of rice, and inserted with a needle, like an injection. That would be hugely painful for your baby.
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#455631 - 01/18/08 12:26 PM Re: Micrichipping Gliders? [Re: USMom]
GliderMomma
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All 3 of my dogs are microchipped. We move around a lot. I'm just asking for opinions on it. If it's possible I would definitely consider getting mine microchipped. That way if they some how got loose while we were on the road and someone found them I could get them back.

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#455632 - 01/18/08 12:27 PM Re: Micrichipping Gliders? [Re: ]
GliderMomma
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Thanks for the info and moving this to the correct forum Becki

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#455633 - 01/18/08 12:29 PM Re: Micrichipping Gliders? [Re: ]
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I think it is a terrible idea. Here's why...

Gliders are very sensitive to anything on their bodies, such as sores and such. Although those micro chips are small for a dog and dogs can/usually ignore it, they would be a HUGE implant for a glider and something that a glider wouldn't be able to ignore. The chances of the glider self mutilating to remove the chip would be to high for me to risk.
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#455636 - 01/18/08 12:34 PM Re: Micrichipping Gliders? [Re: Dancing]
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I get it. It's a touchy subject. I'm fine with it just being dropped now.

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#455646 - 01/18/08 01:09 PM Re: Micrichipping Gliders? [Re: ]
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Not a touchy subject at all and one that has been brought up before. There are things about our gliders we wouldn't know if we didn't ask.

I'm sorry if I came across as rude at all. I certainly didn't mean to. Hummm...perhaps I need more coffee.....
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#455656 - 01/18/08 01:24 PM Re: Micrichipping Gliders? [Re: Dancing]
GliderMomma
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You didn't come across rude at all. I was just trying to save everyone from reading the same thing over and over again. (That it's not a good idea and I wouldn't do it myself). Thanks for the opinions that were posted. I respect everyone's opinions here.
I'm just afraid of something happening and the possibility of my babies possibly being scared stiff ( roflmao ) somewhere and being found by someone and never finding me again. cry

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#456074 - 01/19/08 12:12 AM Re: Micrichipping Gliders? [Re: ]
Marz Offline
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Interesting question and I too would have thought that microchipping wasn't such a great idea until recently. Our Marsupial group visited the Healesville Sanctuary and we were lucky to get a behind the scenes tour of the nocturnal house and to chat with the keepers of the possums, gliders, bilbies etc. We discussed lots of things and microchipping was mentioned by the keeper.

She said all the animals were microchipped for identification of each animal for things like veterinary treatment, personal history etc. For instance, all the animals get a regular check up on the Wildlife Health Centre on the property. Microchipping enables the vets to monitor each animal without guesswork of what animal that is being presented. This alleviates issues of wrong medication/special diets or any other issue including theft, breeding history etc. All is recorded on each animal's personal history file.

Curious I asked how small an animal do they microchip. They safely microchip right down to feathertail gliders which are the size of a mouse without any issues at all.This surprised me totally but it all makes sense in this sort of environment.

They have also released gliders back into the wild and if one comes back into the Health Centre later on in any shape or form,then they have all it's records and history to hand.

I guess the only real issue I can foresee wih it being done safely by a normal vet, is that they know the correct procedure etc on an animal that wasn't a cat or a dog.

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#456091 - 01/19/08 12:36 AM Re: Micrichipping Gliders? [Re: Marz]
gliderlover1 Offline
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I had wondered about this too. Good question.
I wouldn't think it was to bad if they put it on the back of there neck where they really couldn't get at it.
The thing is I don't know as they would be found by someone else. I just don't know if they would ever be seen again you know?

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#456096 - 01/19/08 12:50 AM Re: Micrichipping Gliders? [Re: ]
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Registered: 09/18/07
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I would be worried about another glider grooming the spot and causing issues if it was on the back of ones neck.
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#456098 - 01/19/08 12:52 AM Re: Micrichipping Gliders? [Re: ]
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Marz...believe it or not, we do have glider vets here in the states and some I would be more trusting of than even some of those down under.
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#456107 - 01/19/08 01:09 AM Re: Micrichipping Gliders? [Re: Dancing]
Marz Offline
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Originally Posted By: Dancing
Marz...believe it or not, we do have glider vets here in the states and some I would be more trusting of than even some of those down under.


I cannot see anywhere where I said that there aren't glider vets in the USA. By normal vet I was referring to one in a regular veterinary practice with or without glider knowledge in whatever country. Seeing microchipping of gliders is not regular practice, obviously the experience is not out there in a regular veterinary practice..glider experence or not..Australia or USA.

Sanctuary vets would of course have loads of experience microchipping native wildlife because all the animals at the zoo are microchipped. They would have the procedure perfected.

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#456110 - 01/19/08 01:26 AM Re: Micrichipping Gliders? [Re: Marz]
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Originally Posted By: Marz

Curious I asked how small an animal do they microchip. They safely microchip right down to feathertail gliders which are the size of a mouse without any issues at all.This surprised me totally but it all makes sense in this sort of environment.



Marz smile My question is (no I haven't read up on the cute feathertails), will a feathertail mouse self mutilate if it feels pain or "something not right" within its body?

I understand we have the ability to microchip any animal regardless of size, but gliders do have a problem with anything foreign on or in their bodies and either them or a mate may attempt to remove it.

Personally, I would be afraid to have it done for this reason.
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#456113 - 01/19/08 01:34 AM Re: Micrichipping Gliders? [Re: SugarBlossoms]
Marz Offline
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Originally Posted By: SugarBlossoms
Originally Posted By: Marz

Curious I asked how small an animal do they microchip. They safely microchip right down to feathertail gliders which are the size of a mouse without any issues at all.This surprised me totally but it all makes sense in this sort of environment.



Marz smile My question is (no I haven't read up on the cute feathertails), will a feathertail mouse self mutilate if it feels pain or "something not right" within its body?

I understand we have the ability to microchip any animal regardless of size, but gliders do have a problem with anything foreign on or in their bodies and either them or a mate may attempt to remove it.

Personally, I would be afraid to have it done for this reason.


They microchip all their animals including sugar gliders. Feathertail gliders were mentioned as I asked how small of an animal could they safely microchip and the nocturnal house keeper said the feathertail glider that being the smallest occupant of the nocturnal house.

They would not microchip any animal if it was going to cause any issues but I did ask the question about any issues and the keeper said not at all.

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#456116 - 01/19/08 01:55 AM Re: Micrichipping Gliders? [Re: Marz]
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Thanks Marz smile
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#456117 - 01/19/08 01:57 AM Re: Micrichipping Gliders? [Re: SugarBlossoms]
Marz Offline
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Originally Posted By: SugarBlossoms
Thanks Marz smile


Not a problem. I think it's good to share this sort of information.

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#456439 - 01/19/08 05:59 PM Re: Micrichipping Gliders? [Re: Marz]
GliderMomma
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Marz, thank you for the information. thumb It's very interesting that they can safely microchip an animal the size of a mouse. When my dogs were microchipped, I tried to feel the microchip right away after implantation and cound not feel it at all.

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#471246 - 02/06/08 03:07 PM Re: Micrichipping Gliders? [Re: Dancing]
Melissa2721
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Originally Posted By: Dancing
Marz...believe it or not, we do have glider vets here in the states and some I would be more trusting of than even some of those down under.


I would trust almost any vet in the country where are gliders are native over one here in the states !

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#471258 - 02/06/08 03:17 PM Re: Micrichipping Gliders? [Re: ]
LindsayAnnG
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to me is seems kind of useless to microchip ANY pet glider here in the US because in order for you to find your glider again the glider would have to be CAUGHT and turned in to a vet or a shelter, which we all know how rare it is that someone catches a glider and brings it to a shelter, and if shelters even ACCEPT them.. And rescues dont have the technology to check the microchip - although i dont know if there is different technology for different size chips..

I feel this way about microchipping cats.. Most shelters dont accept cats, so most people who find a stray cat dont take them to shelters..

Seems kind of useless unless you run some sort of sanctuary.

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#471322 - 02/06/08 04:11 PM Re: Micrichipping Gliders? [Re: ]
Brittney
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Sorry, I know this is :off topic: but I just wondered if feather tailed gliders are ever kept as pets? They sure are TINY - Wikipedia says they are usually 10 to 14 grams!


As for the micro chipping, I personally think it would be kind of pointless with much of the same reasoning as LindsayAnnG. I am not sure if there is REALLY a risk of them feeling and trying to remove the chip (obviously, I'm not a vet) but I would say the risk alone isn't worth it considering how much damage a glider can easily do to itself if/when it starts picking. Also, it's unlikely that even IF you got him chipped and IF he escaped and IF he was found by someone that they would think that the critter was probably someone's pet, take it to a vet/shelter and check for a microchip. Should something happen and your suggie gets away from you, you have many more greater concerns that come before someone finding him and not knowing who his owner is. This is just my thinking about it - I hope it makes sense. If you still feel like your glider could benefit from being chipped, I would simply ask a glider-familiar exotics vet - hopefully you already have a vet near you that you have in mind! I would actually get a couple of vet's opinions before you go through with it. HTH - good luck wink

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#471335 - 02/06/08 04:24 PM Re: Micrichipping Gliders? [Re: ]
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Also, most people would probably assume a loose sugar glider was a squirrel (or some member of the squirrel family). In that case, what would be the point of capturing it? If for some reason the glider would wind up at a shelter, would anyone think to check it for a microchip? Personally, I think it highly unlikely. This is also my main concern. If they don't know to look for it, what is the purpose of having the microchip? dunno
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