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#48029 - 06/04/05 03:19 PM backwards progress in bonding
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I was making good progress with my 6yr old rescue Sammy until he discovered one of my birdhouses in family room. He opened the top and went in. He has now lay claim to it. I put fluff in the bottom of it and stuck it in the bottom of his cage. Where he now sleeps in it. Problem being he won't come out of it except to eat. When I try to get him out of his cage to play he just runs into the birdhouse. I've even grabbed the birdhouse with him in it and carry it to the glider room for play time. He still won't come out. When I open the top to have him come out he crabbs at me and buries himself in the fluff.I tried bribing him out with a treat too. That didn't work either. I don't want to be cruel(he's had a hard enough life) and take away his birdhouse but we were bonding quite nicely until he found the birdhouse.Any suggestions? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nixweiss.gif" alt="" />
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#48030 - 06/05/05 01:08 PM Re: backwards progress in bonding [Re: ]
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You are the Mommy! LOL! You are teaching him that he is above you in the family! Of course he'll crab at you if you are trying to make him do something he doesn't wanna do! Take his birdhouse in the glider room or tent or whatever and take him out for playtime. He needs the playtime! Put the birdhouse somewhere where he can't get to it & give it back after playtime or bonding or whatever! Final thought, what is this birdhouse made of? Keep in mind that some woods are now safe for gliders. Also, if it is painted or has decoration, it may not be safe. No matter how much he loves it, he may have to get a new bed! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

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#48031 - 06/05/05 02:13 PM Re: backwards progress in bonding [Re: ]
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I am new at this, so I was using my wildlife rehab experience with my rescued gliders....I had a parakeet nestbox (I use these with flying squirrels) in the begining and then I downsized to a finch nest. To get the gliders out I had to traumatize them.

I got a pouch yesterday and just since I started using the pouch I have noticed 100% change in attitude. I took all the bird boxes out of the cage and I hung the pouch made of fleece.

I stopped feeding meal worms for supper and only give meal worms out of my hand. In two days I have made more progress than in the last two weeks with a tent and nest boxes.

It is so much less traumatic to turn a pouch inside out than digging in a nest box. Mine seem as happy in the pouch as either nest box. I was also able to clip my two gliders nails by using the pouch to secure them and pulling out each little hand....there was very little if any strees involved.

Don't feel bad about taking the box away....the pouch (at least for me) has been a godsend! They are in the pouch on my lap right now...and I can stick my hand in and pet them, or give them treats.....

http://sugargliderexpress.com rescues gliders and this is what she recommended and uses and she has about 150 rescues. Almost all of the rescues will come out in the day for treats and all of them are easily accessible in their pouches. None of her brood seemed deprived without a nest box. Mine don't seem upset about me removing the box either. So take it away and stick it in a closet.

Good luck!


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#48032 - 06/05/05 02:18 PM Re: backwards progress in bonding [Re: ]
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I think because it's wood it might be spuring an instinct in him. That's his territory now, and by god, no one has the right to bother him in it!! Try forcing him out of it (tipping it upside down) but reward him plenty when you get him out, eventualy he should be less of a 'home-body' if that doesn't work, use a pouch instead.

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#48033 - 06/06/05 02:20 AM Re: backwards progress in bonding [Re: ]
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I'm going to suggest you take the box away. I took jazzy's away due to the.. erm.. smell. I had a cube sleep pouch thing as a replacement and she took to it immediately. Then I gave her the option for a hanging pouch and she now prefers that over the cube. Much as I wanted her to feel at home here, I couldn't handle the smell of that box in the babies' room.

On top of the potential smell, (I don't Care how much it may be shellacked, it WILL smell.) the fact that it may be harmful because of chewing now or future, would have me removing it asap anyhow.

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#48034 - 06/06/05 10:55 AM Re: backwards progress in bonding [Re: ]
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When Sammy got up to eat last night I took out the box. After eating and finding out his box was gone., He did want to come out and play. We play for over an hour. No more box. He has his pouch and serval other things he can sleep in.Thanks for all your help. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thanx.gif" alt="" />
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