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#4929 - 04/25/00 10:14 AM Unnamed Nematode
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#4930 - 04/25/00 10:23 AM Re: Unnamed Nematode [Re: Devil_Bunny_Girl]
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Weird. I will research this at my work.

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#4931 - 04/25/00 01:05 PM Re: Unnamed Nematode [Re: ]
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Thank you for the heads up! I'm adding it to my collection and the vet's packet.

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#4932 - 04/25/00 03:49 PM Re: Unnamed Nematode [Re: ]
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Wow thats scary how many different possible problems that gliders can get! This one is really scary because it causes self mutilation! I am glad that you posted this so I can right it down just in case any of my gliders act strange! If anyone knows of any other health problems that gliders can get that I can read about please post it so I can be prepared in case of any possible problems! Thank you

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#4933 - 04/26/00 07:20 PM Re: Unnamed Nematode [Re: ]
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Okay, I have spoke with the vet on this one, she is going to send me the article, it was on a vet list of somesort that was pretty elite.. anyway it is a small intestional parasite that has similar characteristics of the giardia, in that it can only be found in the stools, while it is in active state. as to the transmitting of it, she said it is a "mothering" parasite, which may mean several things,<BR>1. that it is passed from mom or dad, through the blood or semen, some gliders may be carriers with no symptoms at all.<BR>2. that as in the listeria, it may be a normal parasite, and not a threat until the numbers get large.. much like cancer cells, we all have them, just in some people something triggers them to grow.. could be the same here.<P>the little glider that is in the story is not quite out of the water as of yet.. she had him to the vet yesterday, to remove the "gauze sweater" and check it out, it was healing great, scabbed up and all, but it wasn't long before she started gougeing at it again.. so they had to remedicate and put the sweater on again, the funny thing is as long as the sweater is on, she doesn't mess with it.... <BR> Of other self mutilation cases that we had researched 2 of them was related, and rejected joeys, this glider is only 5 weeks oop,, so could it be something in the lack of parental milk? That could be triggered lets say by hormones.. as in the males reaching sexual maturity? Could it be triggered by the stress of the raging hormones?<BR> Also about the nemotade, it could be seeing that she is litterally ripping at her chest with her hands, and this is an intestional parasite, that as in other nempotodes, that they may orignate somewhere lets say the blood, finsh one stage of growth, move to yet another organ, lets say the liver, then out the intestines..which in the other cases may show to be the case..<BR> This mainly is a lot of specualtion, as that there is nothing really known about this nemotode, virtualy unknown...<BR> As some people can go all the way through life and not know any person personally that had cancer, but has heard of some, this seems to be the case with the self mutialtion.. This is something we have been researching for several years, and still may not find a cause or cure, but every hope is better than none..<BR> The good thing is, they can stop the itching at this time, so at least, it gives them time to work on the issues at hand, and allow more time for even more research...
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#4934 - 04/26/00 08:19 PM Re: Unnamed Nematode [Re: ]
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O.K. Bourbon pretty much summed it up. <BR>But here's my 2 cents: <BR> Nematodes are found in the intestines, that is where they do their damage. I'm not understanding the connection between self-mutilation and the nematode, though. This may be because the glider is stressed and is self-mutilating itself because of that, but not because it can "feel" microscopic nematodes crawling around. Nematodes in gliders are not very common. It would be silly to over react. Just keep in mind that yes it is possible for your glider to contract them, but not likely.<P>------------------<BR>Rachel and the boys:<BR>Sugar Ray and Taylor<BR>Chance and Scottie(dogs)<BR>Spike and Spark(dragons)<BR>Cameron and Ferris(squirrels)

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#4935 - 04/27/00 06:41 AM Re: Unnamed Nematode [Re: ]
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Rachel, ypou said "Nematodes are found in the intestines, that is where they do their damage. " that is not necessarily true, heartworms are a nemotode, In reptiles there are over 500 nemotodes..whipworm also is a nemotode, Please don't think these parasites are uncommon in gliders, Nemotode - is a description of a worm, there for they can be anywhere at all in the system.. orginating anywhere, <p>[This message has been edited by Bourbon (edited 04-27-2000).]
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#4936 - 04/28/00 08:25 PM Re: Unnamed Nematode [Re: ]
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I'm sorry. I shouldn't have made a generalization. I do have a direct quote from an exotic vet book published last Sept. that does state that nematodes are uncommon in gliders and other possums. I made a copy and left it at work. So I will get it tomorrow. I also looked up nematodes in a parasitology book that does state that there are 3 nematodes that can burrow under the skin and cause irritations in dogs. But that is a completely different species. Anyways, I will be back tomorrow with my quotes and references. Not that they will help since this is a new nematode, but still is informative. Also could you send me a copy of that article. All the vets at work are very curious about this. I had everyone researching with me!<P>------------------<BR>Rachel and the boys:<BR>Sugar Ray and Taylor<BR>Chance and Scottie(dogs)<BR>Spike and Spark(dragons)<BR>Cameron and Ferris(squirrels)

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#4937 - 04/29/00 06:16 AM Re: Unnamed Nematode [Re: ]
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There is a story on my real stories page, about a woman with a glider who had a wolve worm, now as a general rule, those are USUALLY found in rabbits and squirrels in the wild.. so anything is possible..as far as nemotaodes/parasites in gliders.. well you do have the giardia, whipworm and obviously another one.. at least...
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