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#505088 - 03/15/08 10:36 PM Need advice.
gliderlover1 Offline
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I saw Mimzy scratching near her wound site with her back leg. Is there any way I can keep her from doing that??
I don't want her to open the it again. I'm so worried.
I'm sick right now. Meds are really off or something. And I'm [censored] out after seeing her scratch. What can I do??????

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#505104 - 03/15/08 11:06 PM Re: Need advice. [Re: ]
minkasmom Offline
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Sorry I haven't kept up on where Mimzy's wound is. But my first thought is to wrap it in gauze then cover it with medical tape. Is it someplace where you can do that? (like not over her shoulder?)
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#505175 - 03/16/08 12:53 AM Re: Need advice. [Re: minkasmom]
gliderlover1 Offline
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no... it's right on her shoulder. I was thinking of making it go back and forth on her arms but i'm thinking she will attack that and get it off. I so wish I had that ecollar. I'm just so stressing out. I just don't know what to do. I just want to get her healed and I feel like I'm loosing the battle. I'm so afraid for her.
Sorry, I didn't get back sooner. I'm having horrible computer problems. d

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#505208 - 03/16/08 01:35 AM Re: Need advice. [Re: ]
gliderlover1 Offline
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come on.. anyone... please... what should I do??
This has to happened to someone. upset


I'm so feeling like the increadable thread killer lately.... dunno

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#505235 - 03/16/08 02:27 AM Re: Need advice. [Re: ]
ValkyrieMome Offline
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I'm sorry, Jenna. I don't know. Jack's scar site reopened once - but it was because of food fights with Boogie. Once I started feeding them separately, it has healed up.

So you think she was scratching it, or trying to SM?
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#505242 - 03/16/08 02:36 AM Re: Need advice. [Re: ValkyrieMome]
silverwolf Offline
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Im sorry I would help if I could I just have never gone through an injury that way.
thinking of you and hoping you find help soon.

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#505246 - 03/16/08 02:44 AM Re: Need advice. [Re: ]
ValkyrieMome Offline
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Originally Posted By: charmedwsugars
I'm so feeling like the increadable thread killer lately.... dunno


I've observed that most of us feel that way from time to time. Don't take it personally, Jenna.

hug2
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#505255 - 03/16/08 02:56 AM Re: Need advice. [Re: ValkyrieMome]
macwood6
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Is it maybe possible to wrap gauze and tape or something around his middle kind of like a wide belt to help prevent him from his foot reaching his shoulder?
I know it sound kind of funny but if he cant bend in the middle he may not be able to reach his foot to his shoulder?

I don't really know at his point its trial and error.


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#505280 - 03/16/08 05:48 AM Re: Need advice. [Re: ]
gliderlover1 Offline
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Thanks guys.. i'm just realy worried. Now there is a little open spot. I don't know if the gauze thing will work. Does anyone know if they will bet there feet stuck in that? I don't want her to hurt herself in any other way. ?
No she was just scratching at it. Can't really get to it any other way. right now there is a teeny opening . About the size of half a pencil eraser. I'm going to be sick... I'm so worried about her. Maybe try some fleece wrapped around her. Wish me luck getting that on. Going to have to wait until she settles down again. You can't tell by her activity level, that anything is wrong. ..

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#505312 - 03/16/08 08:03 AM Re: Need advice. [Re: ]
sugarglidersuz Offline
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You need to wrap her hind feet in vet-wrap tape so that she can't scratch at her wound. She will NOT like it but you really don't have any choice right now. If she starts gnawing on the bandages, you will also need to put her in an e-collar to prevent her from that, too frown I know it's hard to watch them struggle with the bandages and collar but it's for her own good at this point. Please keep us posted hug2 hug2 hug2
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#505318 - 03/16/08 08:27 AM Re: Need advice. [Re: sugarglidersuz]
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It sounds like from her second post she doesn't have an ecollar. So I think bandaging up the feet might not be a good idea if there's no ecollar. Is there anyway you can make one today? I am sorry you are having this problem with Mimzy! I know how worried you must be! hug2
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#505324 - 03/16/08 08:42 AM Re: Need advice. [Re: GliderLove]
suggiemom1980 Offline
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Here is a link for making an e-collar and putting it on. Sending prayers for your fur baby!
http://www.suzsugargliders.com/ecollar.htm#86080514
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#505332 - 03/16/08 09:07 AM Re: Need advice. [Re: suggiemom1980]
gliderlover1 Offline
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where can I get vet wrap tape????
I don't have an ecollar. I'm on Jen's waiting list for some.. dunno
I don't know if I can make one. I've never been really good at that sort of thing.. I will try...
I'm so worried.. It was looking so good. confused

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#505335 - 03/16/08 09:14 AM Re: Need advice. [Re: ]
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I believe you can get it at any pharmacy. Just ask the pharmacist if you can't find it. I got mine at Walgreens.

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#505336 - 03/16/08 09:14 AM Re: Need advice. [Re: ]
Vickirs
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If you have a tractor supply near you, they sell it - anyplace that sells animal supplies - MIGHT be able to get it at a pharmacy (it's called co-ban).

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#505371 - 03/16/08 10:40 AM Re: Need advice. [Re: ]
suggiemom1980 Offline
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You can always use a plastic soda bottle for the plastic part of the e-collar and duct tape instead of moleskin, to soften the edges so they don't cut her. Try Walmart, K-Mart, Rural King and your local pharmacies for the vet wrap tape. If you can get an e-collar made and on her, then you can use a self adhesive type of gauze to put on her feet. I'm not sure what it's called but you can get it at Walmart in the health and beauty section. It's not sticky like tape. It sticks to itself and holds it's shape. If you had a cut on your arm, you would use it to hold the bandage in place, without having to use tape. You would wrap it around your arm and simply press it onto itself to get it to stay. I wish I could describe it better for you. :-(
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#505429 - 03/16/08 12:38 PM Re: Need advice. [Re: suggiemom1980]
gliderlover1 Offline
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I can't get it to stay on.. she takes it right back off. I know I made it right but I don't have 3 hands and my hubby is timid about it.. I'm so trying.. but .... aahhhhhhh

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#505723 - 03/16/08 08:41 PM Re: Need advice. [Re: ]
gliderlover1 Offline
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I'm soo sooo stressed out.. it's open again. And the only vets around here are useless and I'm not kidding. One of them wanted to remove half the skin on her back to pull it back together. And that was before. Please pray Judie is there tomorrow. I'm so going to make her use the ecollar and make a vest out of it. It's the only way to keep it on her that I can figure. I just can't get it to stay. and i am bringing the tape with the tape her feet up too. Not together. I figure I can just tape the feet part and she won't be able to do anything to the wound. God I can't wait till morning. I'm going insane here.

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#505745 - 03/16/08 08:52 PM Re: Need advice. [Re: ]
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hug2 hug2 Oh Jenna, I wish I had something to say that could help. You may have to just wrap her fleece like a burrito and hold her close to your body until you can get her in to see Judy.

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#505765 - 03/16/08 09:09 PM Re: Need advice. [Re: mommawannabe]
LSardou Offline
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I'm sorry that this is happening....I wished there was something that we can do to help.
Have you been able to make an e collar?
You can try and roll up a piece of fleece thick enough to where you can put it around her neck to keep her from scratching at her wound.
Sending you and your baby lots of prayers. hug2

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#505778 - 03/16/08 09:17 PM Re: Need advice. [Re: LSardou]
gliderlover1 Offline
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I made the ecollar. And I know it turned out well. I had to make 2 of them actually. I couldnt' get my printer to print and the first one was way to small.
But for the life of me I can't get it on her with one hand. And my hubby is affraid she is going to bite him. Like it hurts all that much. And I had her so she couldn't possibly but he kept getting it to loose. Then I had him hold her and he couldn't hod her still. I'm sure thinking he was going to get bit. But.. i don't want to be mean to him. I'm just [censored] out. I need someone like me to help me and I just don't have anyone who is. I have her wound up in her pouch. she can breath and move a bit but not scratch without me knowing and I won't let her do that. So we are ok for now. I just want it stitched back up so bad. I really am temped to take her to the emergency but I know they wanted to take half her skin off last time.. they just don't know what to do with something this little. and I'm NOT letting them take that much skin off. It's just not necessary. I'm so stressing out!!!! wahhhh

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#505782 - 03/16/08 09:20 PM Re: Need advice. [Re: mommawannabe]
minkasmom Offline
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Jenna, I want you to read this very carefully. I have JUST gone through this with Minka and a HUGE wound on her shoulder.

What will probably be the best until you can get her to the vet in the morning is called "No-Stick Flex-Wrap". Like Suggiemom said, it's in the First Aid section of any drug store or K-mart, etc. You start with putting the end between her shoulders & wrap it once around her neck (watch her nose for color change: pink is just right, blue is too tight---don't be fooled if her nose turns purple from stress). Then on the second time around, go BEHIND her arm where the shoulder wound is and around her chest. Check the nose again. The third time around, go in FRONT of the arm with the wound. Check the nose. If a fourth wrap-around is necessary to finish covering the wound, go BEHIND the arm again.

Once you get the Flex-Wrap in place, if you have some medical tape to cover it...that will help. I don't recommend using duct tape over the wound area itself; it needs to be able to get air. Maybe a small piece to keep the end of your wrapping attached to her, but NOT over the wound.

Odds are that the healing process is itching Mimzy badly...she keeps scratching, then it hurts, so she scratches more. I'm going to send this on its way & get you a couple pics of Minka's wound & how I had her bandaged up.

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#505787 - 03/16/08 09:26 PM Re: Need advice. [Re: minkasmom]
minkasmom Offline
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Here's my solution to having to put on an e-collar by myself: (fleece with black Gorilla tape strips to hold it in place)

http://s191.photobucket.com/albums/z164/Minkasmom/?action=view&current=PICT2293.jpg

She wasn't very happy but it worked...and that's where the bottom line is.

I'm going to fetch a picture of Minka's wound from within GC here...back in a minute.
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#505795 - 03/16/08 09:33 PM Re: Need advice. [Re: minkasmom]
minkasmom Offline
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It's pretty fuzzy, but here's a link to the picture of Minka's wound. I had to put a MODIFIED e-collar on her because she was over-grooming that shoulder to the point where it was WIDE OPEN.

http://s192.photobucket.com/albums/z201/lchith/Mid%20TN%20Gathering/?action=view&current=HPIM0671.jpg

The vets REFUSED to stitch it because they said there was signs of healing within the wound...they called it "granular tissue"...and it would have required more destruction to even THINK about sewing it shut.

If you can get the Flex-Wrap to work, I think that'll help you til the morning. I'll be online for awhile if you need me.
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#505898 - 03/16/08 11:56 PM Re: Need advice. [Re: minkasmom]
gliderlover1 Offline
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ok, Thanks so much. I'm sorry i didn't get back to you sooner. I'm having computer problems. This is the first chance I've gotten the stupid computer to work since I wrote the last messge... but at least your messages are there.. I'm so going to try that right now.. then how did you feed her? by hand???
I'm going to go work on doing this now. She's not going to be easy being it's night and i've been trying the to wrap her up a lot today. She's been crabbing at me like crazy. I'm so sad I've upset her but I can't let this get worse. It's just crazy.
Say a prayer of good luck for me..I'm just so worried...Can't wait for morning..
Hope the computer works for a while..

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#505928 - 03/17/08 01:04 AM Re: Need advice. [Re: ]
gliderlover1 Offline
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r u still there..
after a couple tries i think i got her good and wrapped up.
i tried to put a collar on her but she got right back out...third times a charm...
ok... now where is morning?????????

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#505951 - 03/17/08 03:01 AM Re: Need advice. [Re: ]
gliderlover1 Offline
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I did it I did it I did it!!!!
I got her wrapped up in a burrito .. took me a couple tries to got her stuck. Then I made 2 more collars because the one I just couldn't get tight. So I make them out of water bottles. First one was a dud.. but the second is on and I hope she isn't getting it off. I also made a vest kind of thing out of that nonstick tape stuff. And she is so stuck in there. And completely covered and safe!!!!!!!!! phew!!! I may be able to rest a little.
I got her in a small cage with a big piece of fleece so she shouldn't be able to fall and hurt herself. I put the food on a plate in a big mound but I don't think she is interested. And gave her her water bottle down low which I already seen her use!!!!
Oh thank you thank you thank you for all your help!!! I really really appreciate it.
At least I feel better for tonight. And poor Mimzy is going to live in that vest until she is good and healed. I'm not letting her hurt herself again. Now just pray Dr Julie is there tomorrow to patch her up again. Boy is she going to be amazed at what I got on her now. lol
But hey.. whatever keeps her safe. That's what counts!
Thanks again!!!!!!
I know.. I'm talking to myself right now.. but I'm So So happy!!!!

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#505959 - 03/17/08 05:42 AM Re: Need advice. [Re: ]
sugarglidersuz Offline
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Jenna,
I'm glad you were able to get her wrapped up so she can't scratch at the wound anymore. I know it's a huge relief to you! hug2
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#505992 - 03/17/08 07:49 AM Re: Need advice. [Re: sugarglidersuz]
suggiemom1980 Offline
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minkasamom, that is an EXCELLENT idea of how to put on an e-collar by yourself! Thank you so much for sharing. I hope I never need to do this at all, let alone by myself, but it sure is nice to have this information!

Jenna, I am so happy for you! And I bet your vet will not only be proud of you but will use your vest idea in the future for their other patients! Mimzy looks great, albeit a bit miffed. LOL! The main thing is, she's safe. Tell hubby, if anything he can wear gloves or use oven pads/mitts. They do bite hard (and I'm going to post pics on here soon as proof) but I've been bitten by worse! LOL!
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#506011 - 03/17/08 08:25 AM Re: Need advice. [Re: suggiemom1980]
PixTrix
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Jenna! I just found this thread. I live so close to you I could have helped you with Mimzy!


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