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#521481 - 04/05/08 08:00 PM A New Battle
Jackie_Chans_Mom Offline
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Registered: 05/01/07
Posts: 2511
Loc: Texas
I wanted to share a story with you, though I do not know how it will end just yet. Be warned, though, it is a LONG one.

I share this in hopes that we all can get a better understanding of just how important proper breeding practices are; just how important diet and hygiene are; just how important it is that we all have KNOWLEDGEABLE and EXPERIENCED vets.

This is the story of little Naruto, though around here we call him New-Nu, because that is what we plan for him to be when he leaves here: NEW.

New-Nu and his cage mate were purchased 5 or so weeks ago at a home and garden show in Arizona from Custom Cage Works. CCW sold these gliders to a teenage girl with a small, over-priced cage and a year's supply of supplements. She was instructed to feed them apple slices and dog food.

New-Nu and mate were at the vet within 48 hours of purchase because, in that short time, New-Nu had begun to self mutilate. 8 visits in 4 weeks, and New-Nu received 2 different antibiotics, a cream for his wounds and a SEDATIVE. Not once in those 4 weeks/8 visits did the vet recommend an ecollar. Not once was he tested for parasites or given pain medication. At no time did the SMing stop. Finally, help was found through USGN. Mary, Karen and Denise were tireless in getting this little one help and getting him in an ecollar. None of them could have really known what they were dealing with. Finally, New-Nu's mom admitted that his needs were beyond her abilities/knowledge and that sweet girl and her mother drove those babies 11 1/2 hours ONE WAY to my doorstep.

I was expecting a 16 week OOP glider who was Sming and needed to be nursed back to health. Imagine my surprise when I opened the pouch and found a 21 gram BABY in an ecollar almost as big as he was!

New-Nu upon arriving at my house

New-Nu has such bad diarrhea that he is constantly needing baths - this is still an issue. He had damage to his cloaca, pompom and base of tail. Couldn't get a great picture.
This is the best I could do

All I could think when he got here is "how does a BABY even get to the point that he feels he needs to self-mutilate?"

Knowing that they were coming, I had made a vet appointment. So, off to Tulsa I go again. Dr. Walsh diagnosed New-Nu with parasites (no surprise there), early onset HLP (his gait is odd), severe malnutrition, severe dehydration and an eye infection. Cloacal damage was the worst (though not nearly as bad as I have had here). Tail and pompom were already healing up. Additionally, New-Nu is closer to 8 weeks OOP and is significantly underweight - he was at 21 grams.

THIS BABY WAS PULLED FROM MOM AT 3 WEEKS OOP AND SOLD MALNURISHED AND WITH A PARASITE THAT RESULTED IN SEVERE DIARRHEA LEADING TO SELF-MUTILATION AND DEHYDRATION. BOTH of these gliders had parasites. The SELLER (CCW) gave diet advice that furthered all of these issues and lead to early onset HLP.

So, Naruto now receives a calcium supplement daily. He receives anitbiotic and antiparasite meds 2X/day and sub-q liquids 2X/day. He is given supplemental feedings every other hour 'round the clock until he reaches 35 grams, at which time feedings will go to every 3 hours.

Preparing to medicate
Giving Sub-Q liquids

One of the biggest challenges with New-Nu has been finding an ecollar that works for him. I have tried satellite and shot-glass style ecollars, the tape and even the foam, but all were either too bulky, too heavy or otherwise not functional for him. Remember, he is a tiny, tiny glider! AND, he is a magician when it comes to getting out of them. So, I finally fashioned my own collar, and it is working for now:
New collar

Despite all of this treatment and all the love I can give him, New-Nu is still going downhill. We used a medicated wash on his cloaca and to clean him up a bit, and it left him a sticky, crusty, matted mess. I don't dare bathe him every day because i don't need him catching cold on top of all this. Besides, I am much more concerned about his health than I am about his fur condition. But, his fur has become kinda greasy even in areas that the wash never touched, his eyes are not bright and he is quite lethargic.

Very, Very Sick

New-Nu is fighting to win this battle. He has increased in weight to 24 grams, so that is the hope that we hang on to here. He is a fighter, and you all know that I am. I will not let him go! We both could use some prayers, support and encouragement. Thank God for my mother, who has stepped in and administered some of the feedings and love so that i could get a little sleep.

I pray that we all can learn from this, that your eyes are open to just how much damage a mill can do to a precious life, that your heart is touched by New-Nu's story, and that you have resolved to love your babies now more than before.
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#521503 - 04/05/08 08:24 PM Re: A New Battle [Re: Jackie_Chans_Mom]
USMom Offline
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Registered: 05/11/05
Posts: 7356
Loc: Austin, TX
Val, I believe that he is in the best place. You work so hard with these babies. You have all my prayers.
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#521506 - 04/05/08 08:26 PM Re: A New Battle [Re: Jackie_Chans_Mom]
minkasmom Offline
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Registered: 11/08/04
Posts: 5965
Loc: Northeast Indiana
Val, I cannot stop crying cry with every picture I see of this poor little one!!!!

OMG, if I had know that he was only what? 3 weeks old? when I was talking to his "human" mother last weekend, I would certainly have told her to CUT DOWN THE SIZE OF THE COLLAR. I got a hint when she told me how difficult it was to get the "water bottle" e-collar around his neck....but GEE WHILLACKERS MOLLY DODD!!!!

My unending, constant stream of prayers are being sent to both you AND Naruto that you can both hang on until he gets better. I know that many others are joining in, and I want to do EVERYTHING in my power to STOP THESE PEOPLE---ANYWHERE AND EVERYWHERE I CAN--from doing this to innocent lives!!!

I can't help but to remember a certain young lady who was pulled from HER mother not that long ago...and I can't STOP CRYING!!!!!
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and ONE husband (can't handle two, lol!)
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#521519 - 04/05/08 08:46 PM Re: A New Battle [Re: Jackie_Chans_Mom]
pappy1264 Offline
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Registered: 08/31/06
Posts: 11015
Loc: MA
Tears and prayers for this precious little one. I know if love has anything to do with it, he will win this fight!
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Mary

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#521520 - 04/05/08 08:48 PM Re: A New Battle [Re: minkasmom]
sugarhigh101
Unregistered


good luck to you this poor baby has been to you know where and back.hopefully he pulls through if not at least he has been in the best care with you.thank you for taking him on!!!

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#521529 - 04/05/08 08:58 PM Re: A New Battle [Re: ]
Kimberly1979 Offline
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Registered: 06/17/07
Posts: 195
Loc: Marquette, MI
Anyone have a tissue for me?
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#521531 - 04/05/08 08:59 PM Re: A New Battle [Re: Jackie_Chans_Mom]
Dawn
Unregistered


i have personal experience with Custom Cage Works...in a pet atore i worked at they ordered 10 gliders from them for customers...8 died within 2 weeks...never again did we buy from them...i prat some1 gets them shut down..this was over 2 years ago...how many suggies have to suffer???

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#521535 - 04/05/08 09:07 PM Re: A New Battle [Re: ]
sugarlope Offline
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Prayers for him and all of the little gliders that are out there without someone like you to love them, Val. hug2
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Maia & Squish
If we never loved, then maybe we would never feel pain. Love anyway. It's worth it.

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#521560 - 04/05/08 09:42 PM Re: A New Battle [Re: sugarlope]
Cora Offline
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Registered: 04/16/05
Posts: 6574
Loc: Kilgore, Texas
Wow Just Wow. Poor little guy. Prayers for you and him and all involved. Hey when ya get a few can you PM me about that collar...............What its made of , how its done, that kind of thing. You are one of a kind for helping these special needs gliders!!! A glider angel for sure! smile
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#521607 - 04/05/08 10:47 PM Re: A New Battle [Re: Cora]
Jackie_Chans_Mom Offline
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Posts: 2511
Loc: Texas
Cora, sending PM next....
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~~ Val B ~~ 806-803-0318
Daily giving the abused, unloved, unwanted and neglected SOMETHING TO BELIEVE IN

PLEASE COMPLETE YOUR SUGAR GROUP SURVEYS!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#521614 - 04/05/08 11:03 PM Re: A New Battle [Re: Jackie_Chans_Mom]
TracieB Offline
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Registered: 08/07/06
Posts: 4338
Loc: Lenexa, KS
cry Prayers going out to you and New-Nu. That poor little guy. frown Bless you Val for taking him in. heart
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1 goofy Yorkie - Dexter
2 naughty kitties - Chloe & Alek

Waiting at the Rainbow Bridge:
1 spoiled Yorkie, Myles - April 5, 1993-June 5, 2007
1 sweet :wfb: Xavier - August 5, 2007-May 20, 2010
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#521618 - 04/05/08 11:15 PM Re: A New Battle [Re: TracieB]
tigg1268
Unregistered


omg prayers def going out to both of you... i hope new-nu can recover and recieve a wonderful life after this awful ordeal... these mill breeders really need to be shut down... just how many animals have to suffer b4 the proper authorities can see whats going on without all the technicalities.. truly breaks my heart!!! cry

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#521670 - 04/06/08 04:33 AM Re: A New Battle [Re: ]
glidrz5 Offline
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Registered: 06/13/01
Posts: 7297
Loc: Quincy, IL
hug2 hug2 hug2 Val, if anyone can pull NewNu through this you can. I'm praying very hard for the both of you.
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Illusion, Malcom, Isabell, Annabelle, Zach, Isis, Aly & Indy
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:rbridge: My Angels: You are always in my heart.

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#521986 - 04/06/08 04:33 PM Re: A New Battle [Re: Jackie_Chans_Mom]
Dawn
Unregistered


i just found & signed the petition for Custom cage works to be shut down..


Edited by sugarglidersuz (04/09/08 06:01 AM)
Edit Reason: link to AbraShea petition removed...

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#521993 - 04/06/08 04:43 PM Re: A New Battle [Re: ]
outnumbered421
Unregistered


I just signed! Prayers go out to Naruto...what a little fighter!

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#521999 - 04/06/08 04:58 PM Re: A New Battle [Re: ]
ValkyrieMome Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Registered: 01/13/07
Posts: 10983
Loc: Denton, TX
Stop!

Please don't sign that petition.

It was created by Abra ... you really do not want Abra to have your name and contact information. She is every bit as bad in her own way as CCW.
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"Animals can communicate quite well. And they do. And generally speaking, they are ignored." Alice Walker


Mom to Valhalla; 6 cats; 1 macaw; 2 hedgehogs;
and very many great gliders!

(plus the 2 skin kids)
valkyriegliders.com

Kyrie, nothing will ever fill the hole you left in my heart.

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#522010 - 04/06/08 05:18 PM Re: A New Battle [Re: ValkyrieMome]
Feather Offline
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Registered: 01/19/08
Posts: 12176
Loc: Wisconsin
Poor little guy. I will say a prayer for him.

Best Wishes
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#522013 - 04/06/08 05:18 PM Re: A New Battle [Re: ValkyrieMome]
LupusBeau
Unregistered


omg that abra is so messed up...

Good luck and best wishes Val.

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#522022 - 04/06/08 05:23 PM Re: A New Battle [Re: ]
Rita
Unregistered


That petition has been out there for quite some time.

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#522063 - 04/06/08 06:39 PM Re: A New Battle [Re: ]
LSardou Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Registered: 03/01/06
Posts: 21060
Loc: Kansas
Val, Much love and prayers being sent to you and to this precious little baby. I am so so sorry that this has happened, oh how my heart just aches for him.
Thank you Val, he is in the best hands....Love, Light and Blessings.... hug2

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#522090 - 04/06/08 07:43 PM Re: A New Battle [Re: LSardou]
Malinda
Unregistered


I have to say GOD BLESS YOU and the little one. My prayers are with you.

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#522114 - 04/06/08 08:06 PM Re: A New Battle [Re: ]
Lisa
Unregistered


You are in our prayers, take care...if you need anything, please don't hesitate.

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#522115 - 04/06/08 08:07 PM Re: A New Battle [Re: ]
GliderLove Offline
Glider Addict

Registered: 06/08/06
Posts: 4801
Loc: SE Minnesota..
Oh my god, that is so incredibly sad! I signed that petition before! Now I am worried, who is Alba?
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#522129 - 04/06/08 08:23 PM Re: A New Battle [Re: GliderLove]
pappy1264 Offline
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Registered: 08/31/06
Posts: 11015
Loc: MA
Who is Abra? Never heard the name before.....
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#522149 - 04/06/08 08:47 PM Re: A New Battle [Re: pappy1264]
USMom Offline
Serious Glideritis

Registered: 05/11/05
Posts: 7356
Loc: Austin, TX
Check the forum thingie at the top, colony alert. Most of them are about her.
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#522162 - 04/06/08 09:01 PM Re: A New Battle [Re: USMom]
stitchndes
Unregistered


NewNu sure is one lucky guy to have you save his life!! my prayers are out to you and this little boy!! hope he gets better soon!

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#522164 - 04/06/08 09:02 PM Re: A New Battle [Re: pappy1264]
cyndiekb Offline
Serious Glideritis

Registered: 10/08/03
Posts: 5916
Loc: Cornersville TN I'M HOME :)
look in community alerts for info on abra.


Val i am praying for you again. Jackie is better I am pulling for the same outcome for this baby.
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#522169 - 04/06/08 09:10 PM Re: A New Battle [Re: cyndiekb]
outnumbered421
Unregistered


Great now she has my info...I thought I was doing a good thing by signing the petition....

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#522176 - 04/06/08 09:20 PM Re: A New Battle [Re: ]
ValkyrieMome Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Registered: 01/13/07
Posts: 10983
Loc: Denton, TX
I'm sorry, Outnumbered. It should be ok. There isn't much she can do to you ... except try to scam you! Just be alert!
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"Animals can communicate quite well. And they do. And generally speaking, they are ignored." Alice Walker


Mom to Valhalla; 6 cats; 1 macaw; 2 hedgehogs;
and very many great gliders!

(plus the 2 skin kids)
valkyriegliders.com

Kyrie, nothing will ever fill the hole you left in my heart.

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#522427 - 04/07/08 09:50 AM Re: A New Battle [Re: ]
TracieB Offline
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Registered: 08/07/06
Posts: 4338
Loc: Lenexa, KS
off_topic
Originally Posted By: outnumbered421
Great now she has my info...I thought I was doing a good thing by signing the petition....

Same here. It wasn't until AFTER I signed that I noticed her name as the one who started it. worried
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