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#544357 - 05/06/08 01:45 AM Horrible compound fracture... may need amputation!
WholeheartMom Offline
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Registered: 06/05/06
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Loc: Reading to my girls in Florida
This is soooo disturbing!

When I went to feed my little 9 week old joey tonight, I was horrified...... His left arm is fractured, bone sticking way out, and his little hand is severely red and swollen to three times the normal size. His thumb is also missing, just a raw bone where there used to be flesh.

He was fine the previous night when I fed and played with him, and I have no clue what happened. I have a Stealth wheel and all my cage toys are safe. I don't think his parents would have injured him, but I guess you never know.

Anyway, I put in a tearful call to Suz who calmed me down (thanks so much!) and I took little Ben into the emergency vet. They were not too helpful... just shook their head at me and said "We don't do exotics here". I pleaded with them to at least give him some pain medication and the lovely little vet tech replied, "We don't do that here". Huh????? I began to cry and finally they agreed to look at him and the vet ended up giving him an injection of Butorphanol (Stadol) for pain and Baytril for infection. I took him home and I am staying up with him tonight... My regular vet opens up at 7:30 am and I will have him there bright and early tomorrow.

It is so hard to see my little boy going through this! He is such a sweetheart, barely crabbing at all and just staring at me in such a loving way... almost as if he is trying to comfort me instead of me comforting him. I love him dearly and I want him to make it through this!!

I suppose they will amputate his arm tomorrow. I am concerned because the fracture is up high and I don't know how it will affect his patagium. I don't know how much of a quality life he can have with only three limbs, but hopefully he will adjust and make the best of it.

One good thing is his appetite is very good and he is at least trying to move around his cage, although he is stumbling a lot. I am trying to keep him still, but he wants to move! Also, he is showing no signs of self-mutilation yet.

Has anyone else dealt with amputation before? What can I expect and what can I do to help my little boy get through this?
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#544365 - 05/06/08 04:29 AM Re: Horrible compound fracture... may need amputation! [Re: WholeheartMom]
glidrz5 Offline
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Registered: 06/13/01
Posts: 7297
Loc: Quincy, IL
OH hun, I'm so sorry you are both having to go through this. Thankfully tho your baby has you to comfort him. I haven't had a glider who's had a limb amputated, but I did have a little girl who came to me missing a hand. She got along just fine and never missed her foot. Your boy will do just fine. He is young to have surgery, but being young will help him adjust to the missing limb more easily. As far as cage setups, you will initially want to have a smaller cage with everything pretty much on ground leval. That way he won't have to climb as much. You will also want plenty of hammocks in case he does try to climb and would happen to fall. If you go to the Amputee Gliders thread in Special Needs you will get more details on setting things up.
Please keep us updated on your baby and how he is doing.
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#544368 - 05/06/08 04:40 AM Re: Horrible compound fracture... may need amputation! [Re: glidrz5]
sugarglidersuz Offline
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Registered: 08/28/04
Posts: 14788
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
I am so sorry you had such a hassle at the E-vet's shakehead Thankfully they finally relented and at least gave your little guy some pain meds and a dose of antibiotics. Please call me again today if you need me for anything. I'll have my cell phone with me all day; although, I'll be in and out of appointments, so leave a message if you get the machine hug2 hug2 hug2
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#544378 - 05/06/08 05:46 AM Re: Horrible compound fracture... may need amputat [Re: sugarglidersuz]
princess86
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O my goodness. How horrible for both of you. Your are in my thoughts and prayers. hug2 hug2

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#544382 - 05/06/08 05:51 AM Re: Horrible compound fracture... may need amputat [Re: ]
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Registered: 10/07/07
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Loc: Spring, Texas
Oh this is so sad. frown I am keeping you in my prayers and here are some hugs. hug2
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#544401 - 05/06/08 06:43 AM Re: Horrible compound fracture... may need amputat [Re: Trigger]
ValkyrieMome Offline
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Registered: 01/13/07
Posts: 10983
Loc: Denton, TX
What a horrible shock.
I'll be thinking of you both all day - please let us know how he does today.
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#544410 - 05/06/08 07:04 AM Re: Horrible compound fracture... may need amputat [Re: ValkyrieMome]
GliderLove Offline
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Registered: 06/08/06
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hug2 I can just imagine the devastation you felt when you seen the poor little guy! I will keep you both in my prayers, please keep us posted. hug2
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#544412 - 05/06/08 07:06 AM Re: Horrible compound fracture... may need amputat [Re: ValkyrieMome]
Srlb Offline
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Registered: 10/30/03
Posts: 16734
Loc: St. Johns, Florida
Oh My Goodness. So sorry you both are having to go through this.

It is times like these it is good to be prepared with a card in your wallet that lists all the glider knowledgable vets that will take calls from other vets. This way you can say I have a vet you can call to help you. Most will at that point.

So glad they were willing to do something. Will be watching this thread for an update.

I have known several members with three legged gliders. Although it will take him time to learn to live with his disability, I am sure it wont slow him down any. hug2
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#544419 - 05/06/08 07:12 AM Re: Horrible compound fracture... may need amputat [Re: Srlb]
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Registered: 01/14/08
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I am so sorry you both have to go through this, I will be praying for you and thinking about you all day. I wish you both the best of luck. hug2
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#544429 - 05/06/08 07:35 AM Re: Horrible compound fracture... may need amputat [Re: sweetReaper]
suggiemom1980 Offline
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Registered: 03/05/07
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Loc: Vincennes, IN, USA
Any updates yet???
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#544477 - 05/06/08 08:40 AM Re: Horrible compound fracture... may need amputat [Re: suggiemom1980]
BeckiT Offline
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Registered: 09/29/06
Posts: 16083
Loc: Manitowoc, WI
I'm so sorry you're going through this hug2 hoping for the very best this morning with him!
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#544492 - 05/06/08 08:52 AM Re: Horrible compound fracture... may need amputat [Re: BeckiT]
PixTrix
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I am so sorry to hear this. How very sad. hug2 hug2 hug2


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#544495 - 05/06/08 08:57 AM Re: Horrible compound fracture... may need amputat [Re: ]
LSardou Offline
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Registered: 03/01/06
Posts: 21060
Loc: Kansas
hug2 Many hugs.....and prayers that your little one will be ok!

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#544507 - 05/06/08 09:10 AM Re: Horrible compound fracture... may need amputat [Re: LSardou]
Usha77 Offline
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Registered: 03/05/07
Posts: 4007
Loc: Greeley, CO
hug2 hug2 hug2 and my prayers are going out to you and your little one!!
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#544510 - 05/06/08 09:11 AM Re: Horrible compound fracture... may need amputat [Re: Usha77]
pappy1264 Offline
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Registered: 08/31/06
Posts: 11015
Loc: MA
Poor baby, my prayers are with you both!
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#544517 - 05/06/08 09:20 AM Re: Horrible compound fracture... may need amputat [Re: pappy1264]
peace
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You are in my thoughts and prayers. hug2

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#544637 - 05/06/08 11:20 AM Re: Horrible compound fracture... may need amputat [Re: ]
cinnamonstix Offline
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Registered: 06/10/07
Posts: 3420
Loc: Twin Cities, MN
Oh my goodness! Your baby will be ok, but keep us updated! Poor little guy!
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#544645 - 05/06/08 11:30 AM Re: Horrible compound fracture... may need amputat [Re: cinnamonstix]
saturngirl Offline
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Registered: 07/11/07
Posts: 2448
Loc: Columbia, SC
Hugs hug2 and prayers going out to you and your little baby
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#544656 - 05/06/08 11:42 AM Re: Horrible compound fracture... may need amputat [Re: saturngirl]
sugarlope Offline
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Registered: 03/28/02
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My prayers are with you and your baby! hug2 We'll be waiting to hear how the vet visit went when you have a chance.
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#544669 - 05/06/08 12:02 PM Re: Horrible compound fracture... may need amputat [Re: sugarlope]
Dancing Offline
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Registered: 09/10/04
Posts: 22746
Loc: 80 acres of paradise in KS
I have two tri-pods that live here with me. One of them, Toffee had his front arm amputated at the shoulder and Camelot who came oop missing half his back leg.

Both gliders are energetic, playful and doing just great. There have been, over the years, many many tri-pods and most if not all live wonderful lives.

I'm sorry your little one is going through this as well as you. I know how much it hurts us to see them hurt like this.
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#544688 - 05/06/08 12:31 PM Re: Horrible compound fracture... may need amputat [Re: Dancing]
BCChins Offline
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Registered: 11/16/05
Posts: 3089
Loc: Central Connecticut
Thinking of you and your little one. Please feel free to ask any questions you have. Everyone is here to help.
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#544803 - 05/06/08 02:53 PM Re: Horrible compound fracture... may need amputat [Re: BCChins]
WholeheartMom Offline
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Registered: 06/05/06
Posts: 250
Loc: Reading to my girls in Florida
Whew....

I am exhausted mentally, physically and spiritually, but when I came to my thread, my heart was so uplifted by all the good thoughts and prayers that were sent my way! I am truly moved to tears.

This is how my day went today:

Drive 30 mins to suggie vet #1: They refused to see my little boy. Why? Because the vet has surgery and patients scheduled all day. I plead with them, explaining that this is an emergency, and can't they adjust their schedule to work him in? NO, they can't. Go see another vet, they tell me. I leave with tears in my eyes and a suffering glider in my pouch.

Drive another 30 mins to suggie vet #2: Well, she is also busy but if I leave my suggie there, she will try to take a look at him in between her surgeries and patients. Well, gee, all right....but haven't these people ever heard of the word "emergency" before? I guess not, so I leave my baby and pray that the vet checks him out soon. One hour later, the phone rings... the vet informs me that the case is too complicated for her to handle and that I will have to travel out of town to a specialist. I drive another 30 mins to pick my baby boy up, wiping away tears the whole way.

Drive another one and a half hours to specialist suggie vet #3: He is wonderful! This time I am shedding tears of relief, for I have finally found someone who can help! Very knowledgeable and confident and he agrees with me that the arm needs amputating. He tells me that he will be performing the surgery within the hour and he will need to keep Ben overnight to watch him. I can drive back tomorrow afternoon to pick him up. He calls me up twice with updates, and he is happy to report that all is going well so far.

Throughout all this, I have learned a hard, hard lesson, and I hope EVERYONE also learns from my experience. Don't assume that your emergency 24 hour vet will treat your glider.... you may be sadly mistaken. Don't assume that your "glider vet" will see your suggie in case of an emergency... you may also be sadly surprised. I HIGHLY recommend that everyone discuss this with their suggie vets and emergency clinics. Better get it settled now instead of when the emergency really happens.

In the midst of all the morning chaos, I snapped a few pictures of his arm that I may post later. They sure aren't pretty, but I am hoping they can be used for educational purposes at some point in time.

I will keep everyone updated and thanks for so much for all the support! It truly is heartfelt and genuine and I appreciate it more than you will ever know!!!!
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#544809 - 05/06/08 02:58 PM Re: Horrible compound fracture... may need amputat [Re: WholeheartMom]
peace
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I am trully so very sorry it has taken so long for your baby to get the help it needed. I can not even imagin what you have been thru waiting like that knowing your baby is in trouble. Sending you lots of love and hugs.

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#544811 - 05/06/08 02:59 PM Re: Horrible compound fracture... may need amputat [Re: WholeheartMom]
Usha77 Offline
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Registered: 03/05/07
Posts: 4007
Loc: Greeley, CO
hug2 I am so sorry you both had to go through all that! I'm so glad you found a vet who could help. Continued prayers from me! hug2
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#544815 - 05/06/08 03:06 PM Re: Horrible compound fracture... may need amputat [Re: Usha77]
MagicMan
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OMG! I am so sorry you are having to go through all of this! Please keep us updated on your little guy, Ben. hug2

I hope all will be good and well. I know it will take some time adjusting but in the end it sounds like it will be alright! Lots of prayers sent to you and your little one!

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#544827 - 05/06/08 03:12 PM Re: Horrible compound fracture... may need amputat [Re: ]
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Registered: 11/16/05
Posts: 3089
Loc: Central Connecticut
I am glad your baby is getting the help he needs. I can not imagine someone being too busy to see an injured animal it is so sad they just turn them away. I just keep telling myself maybe it was for a reason and that you now have him in what seems to be wonderful hands. God Luck Ben and hugs to you Momma. Get some rest as he will need you fresh and ready to hold him lots when he gets home.
Thank you for the update.
hug2


Edited by BCChins (05/06/08 03:12 PM)
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#544828 - 05/06/08 03:13 PM Re: Horrible compound fracture... may need amputat [Re: ]
WholeheartMom Offline
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Registered: 06/05/06
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Loc: Reading to my girls in Florida
You all are sooo great!!! I can't imagine where me and my little boy would be without all the wonderful people here at Glider Central!

My mind is swimming with questions right now, and I guess I will have to just take it one day at a time. One of my most pressing concerns is that he won't be accepted back by his mother and father again. I am having him neutered (the vet agreed he could tolerate the neutering and amputation together) so that he can stay with his parents forever. However, will they reject him now because of his deformity?

I know he will have to be separated from them for quite a while as well. I just worry that he will end up being a solitary glider and I don't want that for him.

Any experience with these issues? Do gliders reject their own once they have have a major deformity or issue going on?
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#544859 - 05/06/08 03:41 PM Re: Horrible compound fracture... may need amputat [Re: WholeheartMom]
WholeheartMom Offline
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Registered: 06/05/06
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Loc: Reading to my girls in Florida
Here are some pictures of his injury. The swelling had subsided quite a bit... probably due to the Baytril injection.

Warning: Photos are a bit graphic.

Great.... photos won't load! I will try again....


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Description: He is such a handsome boy!




Edited by WholeheartMom (05/06/08 03:42 PM)
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#544868 - 05/06/08 03:48 PM Re: Horrible compound fracture... may need amputat [Re: WholeheartMom]
WholeheartMom Offline
Glider Explorer

Registered: 06/05/06
Posts: 250
Loc: Reading to my girls in Florida
Trying again to add photos.... Looks like they took, but they are quite small. Anyway, you can see the bone protruding from the skin... so painful looking!


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Description: He is such a handsome boy!




Edited by WholeheartMom (05/06/08 03:57 PM)
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#544869 - 05/06/08 03:50 PM Re: Horrible compound fracture... may need amputat [Re: WholeheartMom]
debyc08
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wow... sorry you guys have to go through all of that.... hug2
you should see if they(gc) can add that vet to its data base if not already there... where in fl are you...

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