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#54766 - 08/18/05 07:22 PM Kazies journey is cut short..
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" />I had a very terrible day yesterday, this among other things that are going on in my life but, this is just something that I will never forget. At about 8:45 yesterday morning I was going to the animal room to get online, well somehow, the rats cage door was open, but it had to of happened this morning sometime. Because Emma (one of the 3 rats I have)was in her bed sleeping while mia and laci were running on the bedroom floor...so i went and picked up Laci and Mia and put them back into their cage. I heard one of the gliders making that noise they make with their nose/mouth while cleaning themselves...but over and over and over again. So I immediately thought thats not normal..and they were out of their beds, which also is abnormal as it was late for them to still be awake. So I looked over and i saw some blood on kazies nose...so im like OMG, and i picked her up...and omg it was the worst thing Ive ever seen in my life, and I still just cannot get the image out of my head. I dont want to go into detail because it makes me ill just thinking about it. All I can say is the cut/hole/wound was REALLY deep. she wasnt bleeding though which was good...but omg it was so horrible, i grabbed her and put her in a pouch and just held her in there and called my boyfriend frantic, I was crying and i was getting dizzy, i had to lay down because i almost fainted, i couldnt even talk because i felt so sick. After he calmed me down for a minute and I drank some juice, I told him what had happened...he was in shock but immediately said 'we have no money but she HAS to be seen by the vet' and I said 'I know I know I just dont know what to do' (previously I had tried to cancel a payment I made to a new insurance company because my job wouldn't let me cancel the insurance I have with them. but the insurance co. processed my check so we were out all that money, long story)so i had him call dr. ness (as I was still going crazy and could barely speak) to see if we could do a payment plan. They said yes, and to come in at 10:30 so, i got ready for work and put kazie in a carrier, and went to the vets office. I thought about how i might euthanize her if she couldnt have a normal life. besides that shes the glider thats missing an arm, so shes already been through trauma and stress as it was. when I got there the vet tech took me in the room and asked what happened and I told her I was [censored] out that it was really bad but maybe it wasn't as bad as I had thought. So I gave her the pouch Kazie was in, and she looked in, she was like 'omg....' so right then I knew it was awful, as awful as I thought it had been. kazie was being really good and calm and not being mean or crabbing or anything. She mentioned how good of a glider she was. Then she left and dr. ness came in and looked at it, went and gave her pain meds , and then explained to me my options. He also showed me that her two front long teeth were GONE. and that the wound was up to her sinus cavity. He said she'd have to be on a liquid diet, probably wont ever be able to eat hard food (as they arent rodents and their teeth dont grow back). he could sew up her nose but she'd probably have difficulty breathing for a long time and that she would probably need help breathing...that it would put pressure on her sinuses...she would have to be on lots of antibiotics, and pain killers and all sorts of stuff and it would be a long recovery and even then she might not even be ok. He asked me what I would like to do and told me he'd give me time to think and he left the room again. So I just held her and thought about what to do. I called my boyfriend and told him everything the dr. told me...he thought it would be best to put her out of her misery,he said 'Jennie..I know its really hard but think of the life she'll have to live...' I agreed completely, I just...wanted to hear it from someone else to know if what I was thinking was an 'ok' idea. Kazie, was already about 6 years old, and thus far she lived a good healthy life as it was. I just didnt want her to suffer and not have a normal life. Though she got around perfectly with only 3 arms, but this was completely different. Dr. Ness said she was such a trooper through all the trauma she had been through and how well I took care of my gliders, because she is so sweet and so good, and that hes seen many gliders that are just not tame or handle-able. I explained to him that I didn't think it was fair to let her live like that and he agreed it was more humane to do it that way... so he brought in the papers that i had to sign...and it was so sad. I have never been through this in my life, and never once did I think I'd ever have to put any of my animals to sleep. He left me alone with her, i could barely look at her because I knew the pain she must've been in and it was just hard to see her that way. So instead i just tried to look into her eyes, while I cried, and i just pet her and she just sat there closing her eyes, I talked to her and told her I loved her and how so so sorry I was that, that happened to her. That she was going to a better place.. it was so cute the way that she would look up at me, and so heartbreaking...ugh! He came in and asked if I was sure about my decision and I told him that I wasnt...because really I was having second thoughts. I thought of the other option...but I just couldn't picture her life being 'ok' or a good one with how she would have to live. I didn't care about the expenses, I already knew he'd work a payment plan with me, but I knew it would be months and months of recovery for her, and I just knew it would be torture on the both of us. So, then I said, yes im sure...and he had me sign some paperwork. He left and then he came in with the first shot...and, gave it to her and told me she'd be asleep shortly...and...sure enough she curled up into the towel that was in the bucket and just laid her head down like she was sleeping, and i just sat there and cried and pet her and he left me alone again...and then he came back in like 5 mins later...she was still breathing but thats cuz he had to give her the final shot...he asked if i wanted to see her after that..and i said no...I couldn't bare to see her not alive. I chose to have her cremated... but i couldnt keep her ashes because i didnt have the money for that which he needed up front. im so upset about that too, because I would have really liked to have those ashes here with me...but I guess they just spread them over the cemetary.

Of course after all this, I looked like I had been hit by a train and I had to go into work...I really wanted to call in sick because of how awful I felt. But I had a jam packed schedule all day with lots of clients who requested to see me...so at least that kept me busy most of the day. Left behind is Kylar in a cage by herself. I have 3 other gliders, but one of them, Moe doesn't get along with Kylar, so there is no future of Kylar being a part of the trio. I have thought about this extensively and well, I just know I cannot get another glider to pair up with Kylar. I dont have the money or the means, and definitely not the heart or strength to go through that again. I got kazie after I had lost of one my previous gliders Kuzco (some of you may remember, he had lumpy jaw and I took him in numerous times to get it cleared up, it just never went away...) These two have happened in a years time and I just cannot deal with another. I know Kylar needs a mate, so please, if anyone is interested PM or email me, perhaps I can find her a new home? I just dont know what else there is to do.

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#54767 - 08/18/05 07:30 PM Re: Kazies journey is cut short.. [Re: ]
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I'm so sorry Jen, I can't imagine what you're going through right now. Please try and feel better, she's safe now and isn't in any pain. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />

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#54768 - 08/18/05 08:19 PM Re: Kazies journey is cut short.. [Re: ]
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I am so sorry. May time heal your broken heart.

As to the rats... I would consider housing them in a different room to where they will be far away from the sugar gliders.
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#54769 - 08/18/05 08:24 PM Re: Kazies journey is cut short.. [Re: ]
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Jen Jen, I'm so sorry I can't even finish reading this <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> My thoughts and prayer's are with you though <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />

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#54770 - 08/18/05 08:50 PM Re: Kazies journey is cut short.. [Re: ]
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I am so sorry you had to make that choice. I know how hard it was. (((((HUGS)))))
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#54771 - 08/18/05 09:12 PM Re: Kazies journey is cut short.. [Re: ]
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> Oh Jen!!! No words could ease the pain, except that time will heal your wounds.

Many hugs to you, Jen! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />


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#54772 - 08/18/05 09:12 PM Re: Kazies journey is cut short.. [Re: ]
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OMG Jen, I am so sorry. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> I know that you must be hurting really badly right now but please know I'm thinking of you and wishing you all the luck in finding the best home for Kylar.

If you need anything....I'm sending lots of hugs your way <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

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#54773 - 08/18/05 09:48 PM Re: Kazies journey is cut short.. [Re: ]
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I am so sorry. That is terrible. Kazie was such a cute little girl. You made the right decision. Sometimes you just have to love enough and be unselfish enough to let them move on to a better place. My thoughts are with you. Take care.

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#54774 - 08/18/05 09:54 PM Re: Kazies journey is cut short.. [Re: ]
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I'm crying, too. I had to make that choice with my Dawn. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/gliderangel.gif" alt="" />

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#54775 - 08/18/05 09:56 PM Re: Kazies journey is cut short.. [Re: ]
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Loc: Illinois, USA
Oh Jen, I am so so sorry. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> That little girl has been through so much. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> You have such a big heart <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frostyangel.gif" alt="" /> and I know she loved the time she got to spend with you. You are a wonderful glider mommy. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

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#54776 - 08/18/05 10:02 PM Re: Kazies journey is cut short.. [Re: ]
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Oh Jen, I'm so sorry. This has been a terrible day, with several new "real stories".

Cyberhugs for you. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

I know you'll be talking to Mikey, if you haven't already. Just know that Kazie and Dante are playing together at the bridge. We're here for you, hon. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

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#54777 - 08/18/05 10:37 PM Re: Kazies journey is cut short.. [Re: ]
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I am so sorry. You and Kylar will be in my thoughts and prayers.

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#54778 - 08/18/05 10:43 PM Re: Kazies journey is cut short.. [Re: ]
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" />
I am so sorry. I know you loved her with all your heart. I am keeping you in my thoughts and prayers.
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />
Angie

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#54779 - 08/18/05 11:04 PM Re: Kazies journey is cut short.. [Re: ]
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...thank you all so much. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" /> Though im still not positive I made the absolute right decision, all I can think of is that shes not in pain and shes stress free now. I guess being selfish and still wanting her here is just human nature...though I know shes better off now. I get by just remembering how she looked at me with her little eyes while I pet her and talked to her...really was special. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />

Peeperkeeper... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> I never even thought about that..but you are absolutely right...made Mikey cry too. Thank you for that little bit of comfort. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

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#54780 - 08/18/05 11:50 PM Re: Kazies journey is cut short.. [Re: ]
Karin Offline
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O gosh Jen, I am so sorry <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />. If there is anything I can help you with, you just let me know.

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#54781 - 08/18/05 11:51 PM Re: Kazies journey is cut short.. [Re: ]
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Sweetie, I'm glad it helped. I was almost afraid to say it, fearing it would upset you more to think of little Dante too.

And by the way, I really think you absolutely did the right thing. Even best case scenario where she makes it and heals as well as could be hoped for, that would be such a painful recovery for her. Gliders just aren't supposed to go through things like that. They would never survive such a trauma in the wild. I think it's our responsibility to make these decisions to not necessarily use the ability we have as humans to force our animal friends to stay with us beyond the time they should...

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#54782 - 08/18/05 11:54 PM Re: Kazies journey is cut short.. [Re: ]
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Jen, <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/upset.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> . Kazie is happy right now, and well, we've talked about it. I'm here for you like always!

Mikey <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dance.gif" alt="" />

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#54783 - 08/18/05 11:56 PM Re: Kazies journey is cut short.. [Re: ]
glidrz5 Offline
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Registered: 06/13/01
Posts: 7297
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Jen, I'm so very sorry. It's a hard thing to choose to let them go, but sometimes to end their pain is the best gift you can give them. I know she loved you very much and was comforted that you were there with her.
Hugs
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#54784 - 08/18/05 11:56 PM Re: Kazies journey is cut short.. [Re: ]
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Oh Jen im sooo sorry! I do believe that you made the right choice. At least now you know that she isnt in any pain now. Im sending lots of hugs your way! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />


Edited by Glidergurl89 (08/18/05 11:58 PM)

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#54785 - 08/18/05 11:59 PM Re: Kazies journey is cut short.. [Re: ]
minkasmom Offline
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Registered: 11/08/04
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Loc: Northeast Indiana
JenJen, you made the right decision, even though your heart is absolutely breaking right now!!!! (stops to wipe dripping tears & blows nose) She loved you & you loved her enough to let her go....your memories of that love will carry you through.

Cyber-hugs, honey!
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#54786 - 08/19/05 12:16 AM Re: Kazies journey is cut short.. [Re: ]
Xglider Offline
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Registered: 01/18/05
Posts: 11157
Loc: Tampa, FL
JenJen … I Know you told me to call you Jen,,, I am so sorry you have had to go through this … I hope you can find some comfort knowing everyone meets up at the bridge… I know words don’t mean much now…but know that you and Kazie are in the mind and hearts of many tonight … Any time PM or email me … thanks for listening to me … I hope you know I am here if you need it….
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#54787 - 08/19/05 02:22 AM Re: Kazies journey is cut short.. [Re: ]
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Oh Jenn, I'm so sorry! IM me if you need to talk... Also, I have an idea for Kylar's mate/companion, so just PM me and we can talk...

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#54788 - 08/19/05 10:26 AM Re: Kazies journey is cut short.. [Re: ]
princessmegi Offline
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Registered: 11/21/03
Posts: 6894
Loc: NW Missouri
Jen, I'm so sorry to hear about Kazie. Amy told me about what happened. Time will ease the pain, but you'll always have the memories.
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#54789 - 08/19/05 03:12 PM Re: Kazies journey is cut short.. [Re: ]
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I'm sorry Jen.

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#54790 - 08/19/05 03:17 PM Re: Kazies journey is cut short.. [Re: ]
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Oh, Jen, my heart goes out to you. I know what you have been through with little Kazie.... but you did the right thing (as hard as it was to do - you are very strong and very brave!). I sat here and cried as I read that... that would be one of the hardest things in the world to experience. I am sending you a great big comforting hug to you, Jen!

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#54791 - 08/19/05 11:59 PM Re: Kazies journey is cut short.. [Re: ]
Srlb Offline
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Registered: 10/30/03
Posts: 16745
Loc: St. Johns, Florida
Oh Jen <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> Im sorry Im so late with this, just now seen this post.

My heart goes out to you and I share tears with you through this. Your act of love for your glider shows through having to make one of the most difficult decisions there are. I am sure as she was closing her eyes she was saying Thank You Mommy for loving me so and not wanting me to suffer. I love you and will see you again one day.

May you find comfort and know that we are all here for you. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />
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#54792 - 08/20/05 01:34 PM Re: Kazies journey is cut short.. [Re: ]
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> thank you ALL so so so much. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" /> Kylar is doing ok, shes been running on her wheel MORE THAN EVER, lol..but maybe its cuz she doesnt have to wait for Kazie to stop using it before hopping on. I got a card in the mail today from my vets office, with the rainbow bridge poem on the cover <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> . Dr. Ness is the best, and so supportive. Again, thank you all for comforting me in my time of need. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

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#54793 - 08/22/05 08:54 AM Re: Kazies journey is cut short.. [Re: ]
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AWWWWWWW Jen <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" />...I am sooooooo sorry!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> I wish you didn't have to go through this~~I hope you are okay..and thing are going better!! She is a little <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frostyangel.gif" alt="" /> now!!
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />~~Elisa

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#54794 - 08/25/05 07:19 AM Re: Kazies journey is cut short.. [Re: ]
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Jen, what a horrible thing to have imbeded in your mind. I will pray that you are healed in your heart. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frostyangel.gif" alt="" />
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#54795 - 08/25/05 05:17 PM Re: Kazies journey is cut short.. [Re: ]
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Jen I am so sorry.. Wish you were closer because i would diffently have a PM sent to you...
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