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Diabetic Glider Diet-Help Needed #55999
08/27/05 05:21 PM
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As I posted last night, we have found out that Chronos is diabetic, hence his repeated infections-the glucose excreted in his urine is helping to "feed" the bacteria, making it difficult to eradicate. Giving him things like yogurt drops seems to have been compounding the problem.

Now I need to create a diet for a "sugar" glider that is low in sugar and certain carbs and have no clue where to start. Dancing PMed me some info on Glycemic Index stuff, but having no prior experience with a diabetic anything it's going to take time to understand this and I can use all the help I can get. Why does Diabetic Sugar Glider almost sound like an oxymoron? (little humor.. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />--very little, but hey, if I can't grin at it, I'm gonna cry over it, so...)

Somewhere in the distant past I read here about two other gliders with this problem, but I can't remember who or when other than it was probably around two years ago. I would venture to guess this is even rarer than SM in a glider. My vet and I are asking for your imput.

Here is the info I have on Chronos. He is a rescue. I am at least his third home. I have no info on parents, age or prior owners, age/health of parents, when he was taken from them, or anything else. He is missing the last joint and nails on most of his toes and half his tail. He has one intact front hand, one front missing all of the end of his digits, only groomers and center nails in back, with thumbs, with the rest missing/incomplete. Poss. accident or in pouch by mom, but it really looks more genetic as far as the toes, as there is no visible scar tissue and he has a truly deformed nail on one center back toe..he had an infection there when we got him a month ago..again, possibly accidental damage, but it doesnt' look like it. We estimate him at approximately a year old, give or take, and we and 3 of our vets are comfortable with that figure. The diabetes is likely genetic, also. I do not know with any certainty what his diet was like before he came to us.

Since with us, he has been on BML (with a jar of sweet potatoes added in, no other change to recipe). Fruits include apple, banana, papaya, nectarine, grapes, canteloupe, honeydew (not all at once-basics are canteloupe, honeydew, apple, and grapes daily, others here and there for some variety, same with all my gliders), an occasional cherry or some avocado. Vegetables include mainly peas corn, green beans, with either some carrots, baked potato, sweet potato that changes. Mealworms.

For treats, one or two of this list daily: dried blueberry (very soft/moist), dried canteloupe (also soft, no preservatives), yogurt drop (small brisky's kind-usually following meds) or a canned or dried flukers gutloaded cricket.

Drinks include water, weekly gliderade, either guava, papaya, mango, apricot mango kerns nectars or apple juice daily with water (one in addition to water nightly).

Now I don't know which of these foods are "bad" foods, and which I can feed. Last night he got babyfood turkey with calcium sprinkled on it, carrots, peas, green bean, 2 dried crickets, mealies. This was just in an effort to cut his sugars/carbs in a hurry so the antibiotic can start working, but won't do for any period of time. I have no clue how bml will work with a glider whose body can't control it's carbs. The vet and I even discussed the possibility of a diabetic control cat food (soaked in water)-I don't like the idea but will try it if I have to.

Anybody with experience with diabetes, and which foods they can regulate and which are difficult...vet also mentioned we need carbs that take longer to move thru the intestinal tract so they can be processed, can't remember what she called them, tho, and we didnt' get into what foods fit that that a glider might eat. She mentioned also that the wrong foods if we didn't find this put him at risk for acidosis of his blood, and that it would be a risk in the future with this disease.

Opinions, thoughts, explanations of the ins/outs of this disease and diet related issues/concerns, whatever, are all welcome. Chronos needs all of your help, so we can get him healthy for as long as he can be. If anyone has had, cared for, or known of someone with a diabetic glider your imput is most welcome as well. Chronos and I thank you in advance for any help. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thanx.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Diabetic Glider Diet-Help Needed [Re: ] #56000
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Ok, fruit and fruit juices move much more quickly through the digestive system so you would want more vegies and protiens then fruits {fruits have fructose (sugar)}. I am doing more research for you as well. I will hopefully something more informative tonight.


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Re: Diabetic Glider Diet-Help Needed [Re: ] #56001
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Well, I can't offer much, but here's the knowledge I have:

You may want to try him on Hemp Hearts as a protien/carbohydrate, here's why I think so:

[:"red"]- Adult (human) serving contains 15g protein, 2.5g fiber, 4.5g carbohydrates, many natural vitamins & minerals - no cholesterol. An adult human serving is 4T - I calculated the serving for a 100g suggie to be about 3-4 grains per day.[/]

[:"red"]- More digestible protien than meat, whole eggs, cheese, human milk, cows milk, or any other high protein food.[/]

[:"red"]- Can be eaten by those who cannot tolerate nuts, gluten, lactose or sugar; there are no known allergies to hemp foods.[/]

- The balance of essential fats and protiens may reduce cholesterol, blood pressure, coronary heart disease and stroke.

- The ratio of Omega 6 to Omega 3 EFA's in hemp oil is thought to be the best in nature for promoting cellular health.

- Hemp foods reduce inflammation and benefit those with arthritis, cardiovascular disease, psoriasis - even tuberculosis.

[:"red"]- By improving circulation and reducing inflammation, hemp products may be particularly beneficial for diabetics. [/]

- Hemp oil contains plant sterols which may reduce the risk of colon and prostate cancer.

There are A LOT more facts I can show you at the get-together in Sept if you're interested, but these were the ones that really jumped out at me. The ones in [:"red"]RED[/] are the ones I thought directly applied to Chronos. Please keep us posted on my lil buddy & let me know if you need anything!

Re: Diabetic Glider Diet-Help Needed [Re: ] #56002
08/27/05 06:34 PM
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Jen here is a link that will explain diabetic diets in language that the layman can understand.

http://www.endocrinologist.com/The-Diabetic-Diet.html

One thing that troubles me is that they are talking about human diets and suggest carbohydrates that are high in fiber to keep the diet in balance. One school of thought in the glider community is that a gliders diet should be low in fiber because of the configuration of their digestive system. Guess you will have to do some experimenting here and see how he can utilize different foods. Because of the difference in the way a cat and glider metabolizes their food I am not sure the special cat food would help. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nixweiss.gif" alt="" />

This would be a good topic for Kathy Johnson-Delaney. She has the education and background so that she should be able to help out a lot. Contact Marla (Flying Elvis) and see if she can get some input from Dr. J-D.
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Re: Diabetic Glider Diet-Help Needed [Re: ] #56003
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Do NOT give him HONEY! I am diabetic (human of course..lol) and Honey is one of THE WORST things for a diabetic. The BML has honey in it. You will need to try either an alternative or something else. Anything with starch will turn to sugar in a diabetic..re: potatoes are big no no for him. Yogurt would be GOOD for him, it fights bacteria and infection and helps keep them away. (not too much for him though) I give my glider kids a tiny bit of yogurt everyday. (plain or with fruit) Boiled chicken and eggs for his protein source..and of course, the mealies. (I would think the mealies) PEACHES contain ALOT of sugar (I love them, but get ill after eating them) apples are good, cantelope, honeydew (small bits) and all veggies that a glider can have are okay. If you give him baby food at all..check the ingredients..lots of sugar goes into the "treat" baby food.
Also, do NOT give HONEY even IF his sugar DROPS! It's DANGERSOUS! In that case (shaking, staring, confusion..etc.) give him JUICE ...or Nectar. Honey can and usually DOES cause SHOCK when given to a diabetic in that case (and can in any case) I'm a brittle juvenile diabetic...NO HONEY PERIOD. I wouldn't risk it for nothing. (for me or your baby) Hope any of this helps some...good luck and sending prayers your way. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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just a thought...apple juice can actually CAUSE bacteria to grow...:(


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I'm a human diabetic as well. A few things . . .
Any sort of fruit given to the glider should be the actual fruit itself, no juice--juice has added sugar (even if it claims not to! it absorbs into the body easier than anything you need to digest.) Real fruit should be used sparingly as well--it also has a lot of sugar but at least its a healthier sugar than juice.
No starch! No potatoes of any kind.
No carrots! Carrots actually are very sweet for veggies. You might as well be giving him a fruit. Use different veggies instead.
did the vet maybe mention "complex carbohydrates"? these are carbs that take longer for the body to break down into sugar. This would be something like whole grain.
Also, I just wanted to point out that the only thing you listed under vegetables that was actually a vegetable were green beans. Corn and potatoes are not vegetables, they are starch which contain lots of sugar. Just remember, starch is basically the same as pure sugar, just slower to process!
I agree with BadgersMommy above, honey is awful. Yogurt is good if its plain. Protein is virutally the "free" food. I can eat as much cheese, vegetables, and meat that I want without it effecting my sugar level too much. So I guess stick to mostly egg, yogurt, mealies and different sorts of protein with fruit given sparingly. But definitely no juice! Save the sugar for real fruits.
Hope any of this helps. I can't even imagine how difficult this must be for you. Good luck.
(btw, been type 1 insulin dependent diabetic for 7 yrs)

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Oh, just wanted to add . . . gliderade may not be a good idea. Sucrose is the first ingredient. It contains lots of sugar.

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On a side note..do you have or could you get an inexpensive Juicer? That way, you can put the fresh fruit in it to make your own juice or puree for the baby and or for yogurt, licky treats..etc. just a thought <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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sorry to hear that Lexi..I hate shots ..I've been praying since the 70's ..I was told back then that diabetes would either have a cure or would be another way to get insulin without the shots..supposedly a cure was in the making..yeah right. It would cost too much of our money for them to have a cure. (I'll hush..grr) anyway, I've been taking up to 6 shots a day now for 17 years...took more and sometimes less before that. My blood sugar is uncontrolled...that's the brittle type 1...grr good luck <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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Totally off topic but why would anyone cure diabetes when people make sooooooo much money off of it? Health care in our country is a business and they're making money off of our illness. We'll both live long, ripe lives while totally being dependent on all different sorts of expensive medication. We are their life-time customers. And that is what our health care system has reduced us to.

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I would suggest switching him over to a modified version of Darcy's diet that uses Glucerna or some other diabetic neutitional supliment. Do not give him anything with honey or pure sugar in it (gliderade, yogurt drops, etc). As for fruits and veggies some fruits are lower in sugar, I want to say that papaya is one of them. Avoid starches, like potatoes, because starch is just sugar.

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I WOULD NOT FEED A GLIDER GLUCERNA! or many other diabetic supplements and treats... most of that stuff (and i just checked the manufacturers website for glucerna) has sugar subsititutes and sugar alcohols in it... glucerna has Maltitol, and this is unhealthy for many humans but has been a big no no for gliders from day one. One of the major known side effects of even small doses in humans is diahrea... I'd worry about what this would do to such a small animal in any amount!

I would talk to your vet about the best options to get their nutrition in foods that are safe for them! and definitely see if Marla can check with Dr Johnson Delaney for suggestions as well....

there has been some very good advice posted here from diabetics.. but having read so much about avoiding sugar substitutes with gliders and having severe negative reactions to them myself, I had to jump in here.

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You are Sooo RIGHT!! I didn't even think to mention to NOT feed any sugar substitutes!! Thank You! (whew)


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I don't know too too much about glider diets, but if the diet were made up of mostly protein and vegs and very very little fruit, would the glider be unhealthy? It seems if this is true, it would be awfully hard to keep up a healthy glider's diet while battling diabetes. You're right--a diabetic sugar glider does seem like an oxymoron.

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No, there actually very good glider diets that don't even incorporate fruit. A glider can be perfectly healthy without it. The main concern is getting the proper nutrients, calcium phosphorus ratio, AND making up for the diabetes with the complex carbs. This is sure a tougie Jen - If you need help crunching numbers or anything, I'm here!

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My Dad has diabetes but not Type A so he does not have to take insulin shots. He watches what he eats and tries to stick with meat, mostly chicken and white meat as well as veggies (steamed or raw). He does the cheese thing well as well as brown and white rice and pasta sparingly. Be sure to note rice and pasta has a lot of carbs. LOL

I would not suggest yogurt b/c it has so much sugar in one serving.

Sorry to hear about your baby and hope he is feeling better!

Re: Diabetic Glider Diet-Help Needed [Re: ] #56016
08/29/05 06:03 AM
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I wanted to say thank you to everyone so far. Both for the links and insights. here's a preliminary of the things I've learned.

OF HIS EXISTING diet: Good Items: Green Beans, Avocado, mealworms, crickets, and cherries, babyfood turkey is ok., papaya-honeydew might be, looking into that, plain yogurt.

Bad Items: Honey, baby cereal, wheat germ, apples, apple juice, nectars, grapes, canteloupe, nectarines, banana, PEAS (that was a surprise), corn, potatoes, sweet potatoes, dried fruits, yogurt drops, carrots.

Items we have incorporated so far: roast real beef (best of the meats for this), plain yogurt. And vegetable being fed currently is green beans. Avocado. mealworms and calcium gut loaded crickets. Calcium sprinkled on meat. Water with a few drops of cranberry juice in it to try and assist the antibiotic without too much sugar or plain juice.

Several of the items under consideration are dark green veggies...I am concerned about an iron overload, but without much vit. C in the diet to promote absorption they might not be too bad, tho he needs the vit c, too...lots yet to learn here, and a lot of numbers to balance..this is going to take time to fine tune!

I'll share what I learn as I gain more knowledge. As of now, I don't think artificial sweeteners are beneficial in ANY respect, and are known to cause cancer in laboratory animals. I will NOT feed them to mine. Glucerna contains them. BML is out at this point for him, tho we may come up with something mixed, it will no longer be BML. This is NOT easy. Since the diet changes and antibiotics, he has stopped hissing when peeing again, tho, so I think we're on the right track. With the combination of the two, it stopped even faster than last time! Last course it took almost 5 days for it to stop completely, and it came back the last few even with the antibiotics.

Again, thanks to everyone so far, and feel free to post if you think of anything else that might help. Thanks also to Charlie H for the link, I've bookmarked it as one of my research links, tho I haven't been able to go thru all of it yet. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Also, most fiber carrying foods, grains, etc, are a slim to not at all allowance for a diabetic diet according to what I've learned so far, and the vet cautioned against grains as well. If I'm not pulling my hair out by the end of the week I'll be surprised, but I WILL learn this!! My babies length and quality of life depend on it, and to me, that's all that matters. Just wish I had more time so it would go faster... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ohwell.gif" alt="" />


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It's a lot of information to absorb. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> When I was diagnosed, I remember sitting in the hospital feeling so completely overwhelmed by all the information! Your whole world turns upside down. It's a vivid memory. Animals are harder to diagnose and treat because they don't have the option of complaining in the same manner as we do. It's going to be very frustrating, I know, but you seem very keen on keeping him healthy. He has a good owner. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" /> I'm not a certified doctor or anything, but if you have any questions relating to my experiences/reactions to certain food, feel free to PM or email me. (I have glideritis and am on the boards a lot so I'm always around!!) Keep up the good work.

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sounds like you are definitely on the right track! I am not diabetic, actually the opposite.. but I have to watch sugar intake a bit too (I am hypoglycemic and the wrong types of sugars and carbs process to fast and leave me feeling icky!) but I have other health issues and have been making a science and specialty of learning tricks for workign with alternative foods and sciences for people with health problems... I am allergic to dairy and have a stomach ailment triggered by high fat as well as red meats and several other items... and have several friends and family members who are diabetic, so I make them negative carb-fiber soy based ice creams and things like that!

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Glucerna was just an example. There are diabetic nutritional supliments out there without artificial sweetens, they don't taste the best, but they do exist...

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They may be available here, and maybe not. We in nowhere Utah have an extremely limited supply of anything. I sometimes have to drive 100 miles just for mealworms and zoo-med crickets! Not meaning to sound like the suggestion is unwelcome, it IS welcome, just maybe not possible here, or with Glucerna itself (which is all I've seen here, in all honesty, other than ensure or slimfast) something I'm comfortable pursuing at this time because of the artificial sweetener-which according to two of the diabetes websites, can contain "hidden" carbs as well that may not be a good idea either. I have not dismissed the idea, just the one product, and hope I didn't offend. I really do welcome ALL the ideas. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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I talked to Ian today (my b/f who's diabetic) and he said that Ensure actually isn't a bad choice diet wise. Becauce it's nutritionally balanced, he can eat/drink it without taking insuline as long as he excercizes for a while afterwords (if that makes any sence). Something with a very exact messurement of sugar might not be a bad idea and I've talked to my vet about feeding solely ensure in the past (when I was hand feeding a joey) and she feels that since they are omnivores and have the same basic nutritional needs as humans (animo acids, fiber, etc) that feeding ensure alone is safe.

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Xfilefan: I Agree with Khyricat about not using products containing Maltitol. Maltitol is a sugar substitute originally developed for use as a baby laxative. It has now become popular in many sugar free candies, chewing gum, snack bars, etc. As an aside, Maltitol has no nutritional value. While there is little negative publicity on maltitol, ingesting too much can give stomach discomfort, gas, bloating and diarrhea. Maltitol falls into the same category as Sorbitol with which I have had personal experience. After eatting 5 small pieces of hard candy with Sorbitol in them, I experienced one heck of a diarrhea attack within 3 hours.
Given its ability to cause diarrhea, an electrolyte imbalance can occur upsetting the body's acid-base balance and possibly lead to acidosis.

Another artificial sweetner to avoid is Acesulfame-K, sold commercially as Sunette or Sweet One. Tests done involving Acesulfame-K indicate that this additive causes cancer in animals. Acetoacetamide, a breakdown product, has been shown to affect the thyroid in rats, rabbits, and dogs. Administration of 1% and 5% acetoacetamide in the diet for three months caused benign thyroid tumors in rats to occur rapidly. The rapid appearance of tumors has raised serious questions about the chemical's carcinogenic potency.

I also agree with Schlep's reply in Health/Hygiene that there are other factors which can cause high blood glucose level readings including:

* blood glucose levels increasing slightly after eatting. This increase causes the pancreas to release insulin so that blood glucose levels do not get too high. So if the urine testing was done within a few hours of Chronos eatting something, it could account for a higher blood glucose level being noted.
* Illness
* emotional stress

I also agree with Schlep's response in Health/Hygiene that while a urine test may be a good indicator of possible diabetes, a complete blood count and chemistry profile to check not only glucose levels, but also kidney and liver functions, as well as cholesterol and serum electrolyte levels are essential for a definitive diagnosis of diabetes.

If the blood testing indeed confirms true diabetes, a determination then needs to be made as to whether it's a type 1 situation (requiring daily insulin injection), or a type 2 situation which might be controllable via diet/exercise. Determination must also be made as to whether your glider has a general tendancy towards hyperglycemia (high blood glucose) or hypoglycemia (low blood glucose) as diabetic management will be dependent on whether hyper/hypoglycemia dominants in the diabetic condition. I would, therefore, urge caution in terms of changing Chronos' diet too drastically until the necessary blood testing is done to determine if Chronos indeed has diabetes as opposed to an increased blood glucose level due to several UTIs/stress.


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