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#565320 - 06/07/08 01:21 PM Medical Advise/Suggestions PLEASE!!!!!!
Suggieluvin Offline
Glider Lover

Registered: 04/16/06
Posts: 561
Loc: Chattanooga, TN
Let me start by saying, I'm sorry if I ramble, don't spell well, & forget some things, its been a LONG, horrible morning!!!! I JUST NOW got home from the vets (going since 4:30 AM)
Where to start.......
At about 4:30AM, my husband heard the cats acting funny and went to check it out. He then comes back and wakes me. He said (trying to keep his cool for me), "Honey, wake up, something has happened to Lola." I asked him if it was bad and he said yes. I went in and he had found her out of the cage, on the floor, unable to move her back legs. So we scooped her up, grabbed the other pouch and brought Leelan (the daddy, her hubby) and her 2, 1 month old (OOP) joeys with us and went straight to the emergency vet.
They took her back, then the vet came back with her about 15 min. later (by the way, other than not being able to move from about the waist down, she acted fine, she drank water and you would have never known anything was wrong, until she tried to walk and had to drag herself, she had NO marks or wounds on her~~ We don't know if she fell or the cats batted at her, we have NO CLUE, there were no other signs of anything!!!!!) and off the bat the vet says, she cannot feel any pain at all and I said, isn't that REALLY BAD, and he replied, the worst news you can get. I then asked him if he had done x-rays and he said no, I wanted to talk to you about this. And then basically was insinuating (spelling ?) that there was no use and said the only thing to do was to put her to sleep.
So knowing, this may be true, but that I didn't like the vet anyways, I asked him if it would matter to wait and get my vet to x ray her or should I do it now, and he said it wouldn't matter. I told him either way she was going to be seen by my vet regaurdless and I was not putting her down right now. And then I asked him if he thought it would be ok for her to go back with her family and he said yes.
So we left and I had to wait for my vet to open. She did 2 x rays and didn't see any broken or fractured bones. She told me that things didn't look good for her but we could try giving her some time and meds. She said that with the x-ray not showing anything, that still didn't mean that a disc could have slipped and severed her spinal cord???
So I will have to pull her from her joeys and start her on meds. The meds are Burprenex, chloramphenicol, and metacam. She also showed me how the try and "milk" her bladder as we have not seen her go to the bathroom?
So all and all things look really bad, but all I can do is try!!!! If anyone has ever had any kind of experience with anything similar to this, any advise or what ever would be great!
Thanks, Ryan
Oh, and prayers would be great for my little baby Lola too!!! I think we will need a mirical! cry cry cry

PS~ we found out how she got out of the cage, its a suncoast tpye cage and there was a small gap from the back of the cage to the pull out grate and tray! PLEASE zip tie you grates to the back of the cage so it cannot move or be jarred at all!! Its was a small gap, but she found it.
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#565321 - 06/07/08 01:30 PM Re: Medical Advise/Suggestions PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: Suggieluvin]
ValkyrieMome Offline
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Registered: 01/13/07
Posts: 10983
Loc: Denton, TX
I'm sorry this is happening. I can't offer you any help - only my sympathy.

I'll be hanging on this thread waiting for updates, and holding good thoughts for you and Lola.

Do NOT give up on her! Val (jackie chan's mom) has experience with this, and Jackie Chan lives a normal, active life - Paralysis is NOT a death sentence. Don't let them condemn Lola!
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"Animals can communicate quite well. And they do. And generally speaking, they are ignored." Alice Walker


Mom to Valhalla; 6 cats; 1 macaw; 2 hedgehogs;
and very many great gliders!

(plus the 2 skin kids)
valkyriegliders.com

Kyrie, nothing will ever fill the hole you left in my heart.

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#565324 - 06/07/08 01:37 PM Re: Medical Advise/Suggestions PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: ValkyrieMome]
pappy1264 Offline
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Registered: 08/31/06
Posts: 11015
Loc: MA
I don't have any experience, but I am praying very hard for Lola. You must be so scared for her. Please keep us posted.
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#565325 - 06/07/08 01:40 PM Re: Medical Advise/Suggestions PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: ValkyrieMome]
Suggiegramma Offline
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Registered: 01/08/08
Posts: 1520
Loc: St. Charles, Missouri
My thoughts and prayers go out to Lola and you. As Val says, remember Jackie Chan!!!
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#565328 - 06/07/08 01:45 PM Re: Medical Advise/Suggestions PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: Suggiegramma]
macwood6
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I would say give Val a call she has had several gliders with back leg issues and a vet used to treating them.
I am going to pm you her number.

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#565337 - 06/07/08 02:00 PM Re: Medical Advise/Suggestions PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: ]
Jackie_Chans_Mom Offline
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Registered: 05/01/07
Posts: 2511
Loc: Texas
I'm on the phone with them now.
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Daily giving the abused, unloved, unwanted and neglected SOMETHING TO BELIEVE IN

PLEASE COMPLETE YOUR SUGAR GROUP SURVEYS!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#565344 - 06/07/08 02:11 PM Re: Medical Advise/Suggestions PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: Jackie_Chans_Mom]
hollysmom
Unregistered


Oh My! Im so sorry

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#565352 - 06/07/08 02:27 PM Re: Medical Advise/Suggestions PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: ]
princess86
Unregistered


So sorry my prayers are with you. I have had experiences with the grate as well. And zip tied them because of my experiences!
Wishing you the best!

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#565353 - 06/07/08 02:31 PM Re: Medical Advise/Suggestions PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: ]
macwood6
Unregistered


Thank You Val

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#565361 - 06/07/08 03:02 PM Re: Medical Advise/Suggestions PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: ]
Suggieluvin Offline
Glider Lover

Registered: 04/16/06
Posts: 561
Loc: Chattanooga, TN
Thank you all SO much!!! cloud9 I just got off the phone with val and suz! I now have my game plan! I just got Lolas nails freshly trimmed so she will not get hung on anything, Oh and on a good note!! I found her bladder!!! LOL And I got it empty ( now if she will start pooping on her own soon, I will feel so much better)!! I bet she feels better, although she didn't like it much (she still has a good chomp!! lol), but we gave her 2 mealworms after that and the nail trim, so she forgives me hug2
I will try & take some video of her later tonight and post it so you all can see how much she can move around. Again, thank you all so much, we will keep you all updated!!
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Wife to my wonderful hubby~ Donnie
Mommy too
3 dogs~Binki,Roscoe,and Foxy
5 cats~Miss.Kitty,Lexi,Bailey,Kip & Miss Pickels
2 cockatoos~Frosty & Lovey
9 sugar gliders~Leelann,Luwie,Sydney,Seira,Norbert,Nilee, Elfie,Bindi & RooRoo
1 salt water tank
http://www.freewebs.com/suggieluvin/


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#565362 - 06/07/08 03:05 PM Re: Medical Advise/Suggestions PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: Suggieluvin]
macwood6
Unregistered


Sending good thoughts to you all hug2
Thanks again Val and Suz

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#565405 - 06/07/08 04:07 PM Re: Medical Advise/Suggestions PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: ]
BCChins Offline
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Registered: 11/16/05
Posts: 3089
Loc: Central Connecticut
I am sorry Lola is injured and we will be keeping her and your family in our thoughts. Please give her a mealie from her friends here and keep us posted on how she does.
Your in good hands with Val and Suz.

hug2
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#565410 - 06/07/08 04:09 PM Re: Medical Advise/Suggestions PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: Suggieluvin]
melissa9784
Unregistered


hug2 Lola is in my thoughts and prayers hug2 .

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#565417 - 06/07/08 04:13 PM Re: Medical Advise/Suggestions PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: BCChins]
LSardou Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Registered: 03/01/06
Posts: 21060
Loc: Kansas
hug2 I'm so sorry to hear about Lola.
It's possible that when she fell or if the cat had gotten ahold of her that she has an injured spinal cord.
I'm praying that she will recover. Your in great hands with Suz and Val......Many prayers and blessings being sent out to Lola.
hug2

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#565452 - 06/07/08 04:39 PM Re: Medical Advise/Suggestions PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: LSardou]
suggiemom1980 Offline
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Registered: 03/05/07
Posts: 13746
Loc: Vincennes, IN, USA
Please, keep us updated!!!
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SmallWorldSuggies

"The greater the challenge, the sweeter the reward"

"Glide free :rbridge: Silly "Ozball" Ozzie. You left us 11/21/12..way too soon. You're forever loved, remembered, missed."

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#565463 - 06/07/08 04:56 PM Re: Medical Advise/Suggestions PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: Suggieluvin]
ValkyrieMome Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Registered: 01/13/07
Posts: 10983
Loc: Denton, TX
Originally Posted By: Suggieluvin
I just got off the phone with val and suz! I now have my game plan!


Wonderful news! You are in great hands!!

There is no one that I know of better to help you with this particular kind of emergency.

Just please *do NOT* let your vet - or anyone else - give up on that sweetie, Lola! Her injuries, while serious, sound so much milder than what poor Jackie Chan has gone through! So- just hold his success in your thoughts when you get discouraged!
_________________________
Alden
"Animals can communicate quite well. And they do. And generally speaking, they are ignored." Alice Walker


Mom to Valhalla; 6 cats; 1 macaw; 2 hedgehogs;
and very many great gliders!

(plus the 2 skin kids)
valkyriegliders.com

Kyrie, nothing will ever fill the hole you left in my heart.

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#565517 - 06/07/08 07:13 PM Re: Medical Advise/Suggestions PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: ValkyrieMome]
Dancing Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Registered: 09/10/04
Posts: 22746
Loc: 80 acres of paradise in KS
You have two of the best working with you, Val and Suz.

I do want to add...metacam shouldn't be given for more than three days. It can damage the liver and cause even more problems for her. It is a anti inflamitory though and will help with swelling and does have it's purposes but not for long term.
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#565522 - 06/07/08 07:21 PM Re: Medical Advise/Suggestions PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: Dancing]
FaesMomma
Unregistered


This may be way off base, but has anyone considered HLP syndrome? A calcium deficiency. Since the vet didn't see any injuries, is this a possibility? dunno Especially since she has joeys? Just a thought Keeping you and and your little ones in my prayers hug2

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#565660 - 06/07/08 11:35 PM Re: Medical Advise/Suggestions PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: ]
Suggieluvin Offline
Glider Lover

Registered: 04/16/06
Posts: 561
Loc: Chattanooga, TN
My little Lola has traveled over the rainbow bridge
She seemed to have gotten dehydrated tonight, so I took her back to the emergency vet for some fluids about 11:20 PM and she passed in my hands, against my chest, a few min after we got home.
May you rest in peace my sweet baby
Thank you all so much for all the help
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Ryan
Wife to my wonderful hubby~ Donnie
Mommy too
3 dogs~Binki,Roscoe,and Foxy
5 cats~Miss.Kitty,Lexi,Bailey,Kip & Miss Pickels
2 cockatoos~Frosty & Lovey
9 sugar gliders~Leelann,Luwie,Sydney,Seira,Norbert,Nilee, Elfie,Bindi & RooRoo
1 salt water tank
http://www.freewebs.com/suggieluvin/


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#565671 - 06/07/08 11:42 PM Re: Medical Advise/Suggestions PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: Suggieluvin]
MagicMan
Unregistered


Im so sorry you are going through this... I will be thinking of you and sending lots of good thoughts your way! Keep us updated on those babies. How are they? Hows the daddy?

hug2 hug2

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#565699 - 06/08/08 12:10 AM Re: Medical Advise/Suggestions PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: ]
JanMichelle
Unregistered


So very sorry. Reading that brought tears to my eyes. A couple of months ago, my dear cat passed. The night before he passed I was holding him and he for the first time ever, literally put his arms around my neck and slept. The next morning he passed as I was holding and soothing him. I can relate to your pain.

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#565717 - 06/08/08 12:44 AM Re: Medical Advise/Suggestions PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: ]
glidergrl1513 Offline
Serious Glideritis

Registered: 12/21/03
Posts: 5725
Loc: Upstate NY
cry I'm so sorry for your loss! You're such a great glider owner, and she loves you for that. hug2

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#565734 - 06/08/08 01:28 AM Re: Medical Advise/Suggestions PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: glidergrl1513]
ValkyrieMome Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Registered: 01/13/07
Posts: 10983
Loc: Denton, TX
I'm so very sorry.

How are the joeys? How are you?

I am so sad for your loss.
_________________________
Alden
"Animals can communicate quite well. And they do. And generally speaking, they are ignored." Alice Walker


Mom to Valhalla; 6 cats; 1 macaw; 2 hedgehogs;
and very many great gliders!

(plus the 2 skin kids)
valkyriegliders.com

Kyrie, nothing will ever fill the hole you left in my heart.

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#565735 - 06/08/08 01:31 AM Re: Medical Advise/Suggestions PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: ValkyrieMome]
LSardou Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Registered: 03/01/06
Posts: 21060
Loc: Kansas
hug2 I'm sorry for your loss. God speed sweet little one. gangel

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#565737 - 06/08/08 01:40 AM Re: Medical Advise/Suggestions PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: LSardou]
jannee66 Offline
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Registered: 02/15/07
Posts: 3346
Loc: Mobile,Alabama
I'm so sorry for your loss hug2
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#565771 - 06/08/08 03:03 AM Re: Medical Advise/Suggestions PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: jannee66]
Cora Offline
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Registered: 04/16/05
Posts: 6574
Loc: Kilgore, Texas
I am so very sorry. (((((Hugs))))
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#565791 - 06/08/08 07:09 AM Re: Medical Advise/Suggestions PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: Cora]
pappy1264 Offline
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Registered: 08/31/06
Posts: 11015
Loc: MA
I am so very sorry. God bless and Godspeed little one....
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#565814 - 06/08/08 08:23 AM Re: Medical Advise/Suggestions PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: pappy1264]
Feather Online   sleep
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Registered: 01/19/08
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I am so sorry for your loss. I hope all goes well for her mate and joey.

Deepest Sympathy,
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#565905 - 06/08/08 12:49 PM Re: Medical Advise/Suggestions PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: Feather]
Kylie_ily
Unregistered


Awww I'm sooo sorry! That happend to our lab once. He has seizers (not sure how to spell)and one was real bad and he slipped a disc in his back. so he couldnt walk using his back legs. cry But thankfully the vet and us didnt give up and they gave him a shot of steroids or something like that and a few days later he was better.
I would be devistated if he had died. Or if that happened to my suggies.
I'm so sorry this happend to you.

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#565976 - 06/08/08 03:35 PM Re: Medical Advise/Suggestions PLEASE!!!!!! [Re: ]
Roum
Unregistered


I know I spoke with you on the phone just awhile ago, but I'd still like to post and say again that I'm so sorry for your loss, and it was heartbreaking to read this. frown I just recently lost my bunny of 6-7 years, and I've lost beloved pets in the past and know how hard it is. I'm glad to hear that the daddy and babies are still doing alright, and I'll say a prayer for you that they continue to do so. Once again I'm so sorry, but just remember Lola is in a place now where she can be in peace and isn't in pain. *hugs*

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