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#576403 - 06/24/08 11:05 PM Need Prayers for Rejected Joeys
sugarglidersuz Offline
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As some of you already know, I was on vacation last week and had a friend come to the house to Glider-sit. Fortunately, all went well with no problems while we were gone and we got home early on Saturday morning.
Yesterday, Carina's joeys came out of pouch and seemed to be doing well. The female was a good 12.9 grams and the male was 13.2 grams. However, apparently Carina had become stressed from my being out of town worried This evening, after getting home late from a bike ride, I was making dinner when I heard an odd hissing sound coming from Coobah & Carina's cage. I immediately went over to investigate and discovered both joeys alone in their nesting pouch and cold to the touch. Right away, I took them out and weighed them. The female was down to 12.4 grams and the male was down to 11.6 grams cry He was very dehydrated and couldn't hold himself up on his little legs frown The female's cry was a bit lustier, but he was the one making the odd hissing cry (a sign of a very weak joey). Since discovering them at 9:30 p.m., I have managed to get the little male to drink Pedialyte every half hour. The female still had a milk spot on her belly, so I've only fed her Pedialyte every hour. The male is in my bra keeping warm and the female is back with her parents but has just started crying again... I'm going to go get her and feed her again.
Please keep them in your prayers. Hopefully Carina will get over her snit and will take both joeys back within the next couple of days, but I may be in for a long-haul of handraising joeys again dunno
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#576404 - 06/24/08 11:07 PM Re: Need Prayers for Rejected Joeys [Re: sugarglidersuz]
pappy1264 Offline
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Suz, I'll be 'up' with you tonight and sending loads of prayers. Please keep us posted.
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#576405 - 06/24/08 11:07 PM Re: Need Prayers for Rejected Joeys [Re: sugarglidersuz]
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Hope all goes well with the joeys. Keeping you and them in my prayers.
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#576406 - 06/24/08 11:12 PM Re: Need Prayers for Rejected Joeys [Re: reeny]
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hug2 Sending prayers!

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#576407 - 06/24/08 11:13 PM Re: Need Prayers for Rejected Joeys [Re: reeny]
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Suz, Im so sorry! I will definitely pray for you and the little ones! They are in great hands!

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#576410 - 06/24/08 11:16 PM Re: Need Prayers for Rejected Joeys [Re: glidergrl1513]
LSardou Offline
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hug2 Suz, I am so sorry to hear this news!!! If you need a shoulder to lean on please don't hesitate to call!!!!
Tell that little Carina to behave herself!!! shakehead
Sending tons of hugs and prayers.

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#576413 - 06/24/08 11:21 PM Re: Need Prayers for Rejected Joeys [Re: LSardou]
sugarglidersuz Offline
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I just fed both of them again. The male took 0.35 cc's! dance The female took 0.25 cc's laugh They're both tucked in my bra keeping warm again until the next feeding heart
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#576420 - 06/24/08 11:35 PM Re: Need Prayers for Rejected Joeys [Re: sugarglidersuz]
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hug2 and prayers for you and the wee ones! I hope Mom decides she can take them back soon!
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#576450 - 06/25/08 01:14 AM Re: Need Prayers for Rejected Joeys [Re: Usha77]
AmyLynn
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I hope she takes them back. The joeys are in great hands. Sending prayers for the little ones.

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#576455 - 06/25/08 01:25 AM Re: Need Prayers for Rejected Joeys [Re: sugarglidersuz]
Soh
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Oh no! Well, at least they couldn't be in any better hands until hopefully their mama stops sulking. Sending good thoughts! hug2

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#576456 - 06/25/08 01:25 AM Re: Need Prayers for Rejected Joeys [Re: ]
aronoiiel
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hug2 I'm sorry to hear about those poor little ones I do hope she takes them back. They are in such wonderful hands though lots of prayers headed your way.

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#576463 - 06/25/08 02:51 AM Re: Need Prayers for Rejected Joeys [Re: ]
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Oh no! I hope that everything is going well with them. Please keep us posted!
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#576464 - 06/25/08 04:04 AM Re: Need Prayers for Rejected Joeys [Re: Guerita135]
morbidelf Offline
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Registered: 02/28/08
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Loc: Norfolk, VA
oh Suz! and i had to read this after my prayer group left shakehead well i will do double time till the next one. shoot me an email if you need someone to talk too!
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#576467 - 06/25/08 05:26 AM Re: Need Prayers for Rejected Joeys [Re: morbidelf]
sugarglidersuz Offline
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Thanks, everyone, for your support. The joeys made it through the night. I tried putting them in the incubator, but they just cried and cried, so I ended up napping with them in my bra between feedings. Not a very restful night, all things considered, but SO worth it heart They are both still slightly dehydrated this morning, but their weights are slightly up at 12.2 g for the male and 12.8 g for the female laugh
I just tried putting them back with Coobah and Carina. Carina immediately started cleaning the little boy (she didn't want anything to do with him last night) and the little girl started rooting for her mama's pouch right away! clap I'm going to sit right here near their cage for a while and make sure they don't cry too much (one of them is crying a bit right now - probably the boy from the sounds of it frown ) Keep those prayers coming!
And THANKS!!! hug2 hug2 hug2
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:bb: Carina & Coobah
Allira & Gizmo :grey:
:grey: Picasso, Trinity Joy & Luna
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#576473 - 06/25/08 06:06 AM Re: Need Prayers for Rejected Joeys [Re: sugarglidersuz]
thefotokat Offline
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Suz, I'm keeping prayers coming that she resumes her momma duties, but I know you're going to be on pins and needles over this for the next few weeks. We're all here for you.
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#576477 - 06/25/08 06:12 AM Re: Need Prayers for Rejected Joeys [Re: thefotokat]
sugarglidersuz Offline
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The little girl is nursing from her mama heart dance This is great news! I'm so excited!!!
The little boy was being held by Coobah, but I think he's still too weak to nurse, so I'll continue to handfeed him for now worried
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:bb: Carina & Coobah
Allira & Gizmo :grey:
:grey: Picasso, Trinity Joy & Luna
:rbridge: DaisyMae; Darwin; Mareki; Mambo; Pika; Cricky; Reggie & Bobo, Pepe & Bittah


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#576480 - 06/25/08 06:17 AM Re: Need Prayers for Rejected Joeys [Re: sugarglidersuz]
pappy1264 Offline
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Wonderful news (on the little girl. Come on little man, follow your sister!!)
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#576482 - 06/25/08 06:31 AM Re: Need Prayers for Rejected Joeys [Re: pappy1264]
glidergrl1513 Offline
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Oh, good! I hope this all works out. smile

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#576483 - 06/25/08 06:33 AM Re: Need Prayers for Rejected Joeys [Re: glidergrl1513]
sugarglidersuz Offline
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I just got him to drink 0.3 cc's of Joey Formula! It was a battle, but I wasn't going to let him quit drinking until he drank it all roflmao Back to dozing in my bra heart
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Allira & Gizmo :grey:
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#576487 - 06/25/08 06:52 AM Re: Need Prayers for Rejected Joeys [Re: sugarglidersuz]
FaesMomma
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hug2 Praying that momma takes those babies back....little Carina you better behave yourself and not give Suz anymore trouble shakehead Take care of those youngins like you should!! tant

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#576488 - 06/25/08 06:52 AM Re: Need Prayers for Rejected Joeys [Re: sugarglidersuz]
hipbchik Offline
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Loc: Tucson, AZ
Thankfully the little girl was taken back, hopefully the boy will be soon! I've heard amazing stories about you & this goes to prove they are true!!

Curious...since I've never been in this situation...what would make Carina take back one but not the other? Low milk production maybe?
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#576490 - 06/25/08 06:55 AM Re: Need Prayers for Rejected Joeys [Re: hipbchik]
sugarglidersuz Offline
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Originally Posted By: hipbchik
Curious...since I've never been in this situation...what would make Carina take back one but not the other? Low milk production maybe?
Actually, I believe it's because the male is not strong enough to attempt to nurse yet. I still have to basically force-feed him each feeding because he doesn't have a lot of strength yet. I'm hoping that as he becomes more hydrated he'll regain his strength and be able to nurse again heart
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Allira & Gizmo :grey:
:grey: Picasso, Trinity Joy & Luna
:rbridge: DaisyMae; Darwin; Mareki; Mambo; Pika; Cricky; Reggie & Bobo, Pepe & Bittah


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#576497 - 06/25/08 07:34 AM Re: Need Prayers for Rejected Joeys [Re: sugarglidersuz]
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AWWWW - Suz. I know that those joeys are in the best of hands. Bless you for all you do for the babies~ I imagine the next 8 weeks will be a roller-coaster ride with this family! They like to keep you on your toes, it seems.

You are amazing and I believe that in no time Corina will again feel confident with Mom nearby and begin caring for the little ones. She just wants you to know that she will share her babies with ya!

Prayers coming your way.
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#576502 - 06/25/08 07:41 AM Re: Need Prayers for Rejected Joeys [Re: Jackie_Chans_Mom]
penniedad
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god bless you for all the help you give, BIG BIG prayers to you and your babies, hug hug
there in the best hands !!

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#576539 - 06/25/08 09:32 AM Re: Need Prayers for Rejected Joeys [Re: ]
morksmom Offline
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hug2 Hang in there Suz.

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#576555 - 06/25/08 09:53 AM Re: Need Prayers for Rejected Joeys [Re: morksmom]
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Thanks goodness the little girl seems to be going in a positive direction....as for you, little man, get your stength back and get to feeding with mama! Hugs, Suz, you're doing a great job!
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#576573 - 06/25/08 10:20 AM Re: Need Prayers for Rejected Joeys [Re: angelic4296]
Mellen Offline
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Loc: Minnesota
They couldn't be in better hands! I'm happy for the little girl that she's back with mom and dad.

Just wondering, do you put the little guy back with them periodically so they don't forget about him?

I sure hope he gets back his strength soon so the family can be all together again!

Hugs to all of you,
Mary
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#576610 - 06/25/08 11:20 AM Re: Need Prayers for Rejected Joeys [Re: Mellen]
sugarglidersuz Offline
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Mary, I have been putting him in with his parents periodically. Although they initially clean him up, because he's weak right now, they then just leave him alone frown I'm hoping that he will gain enough strength to go back with them, but right now he's still very weak cry

Here are a couple of videos I got of the joeys during the middle of the night. This first one is of the female. You can see that she is trying to climb on my hand even though her cry is more of a hiss...
Female Joey Crying

As compared to this one of the little boy. You can see how weak he is - not using his hind legs at all, rolled onto his side and a very weak cry cry
Male Joey Crying
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Allira & Gizmo :grey:
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:rbridge: DaisyMae; Darwin; Mareki; Mambo; Pika; Cricky; Reggie & Bobo, Pepe & Bittah


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#576660 - 06/25/08 12:40 PM Re: Need Prayers for Rejected Joeys [Re: sugarglidersuz]
Soh
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They're so cute! hug2

Thank you for the videos. It's very useful and helpful to get to see joeys in different levels of health/strength in action, so I'll know what sort of signs to look for if we ever get any more babies over here. I'm sure I'm not the only one grateful for that. laugh

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#576673 - 06/25/08 01:01 PM Re: Need Prayers for Rejected Joeys [Re: ]
suggiemom1980 Offline
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Normally, I would have been devastated to see the video of the little boy with his weakened state and his rooting for a mama that isn't there, but knowing he is your hands, I am thrilled to meet him and his sister. They are in the best of hands!
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