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#579789 - 06/30/08 10:51 AM Defective Gliders? Not "Flying"
SariYappa Offline
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Registered: 05/11/08
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Loc: Upstate, SC
(long explanation, short question roflmao )
Sugar & Nibbles are rescues, and I've had them about 4 months now. They have a castle that is big enough to glide in, I made it, and it is 6' by 5' by 3'. When I first got them, they were in a very small bird cage, and before that Sugar was in a shoe box mad

The "interim" mommy used to let them out in her bathroom at night (she didn't have them that long) and said they used to glide all the time. Well, we did that at first, we also do lots of tent time (a Genji, couln't live without it!) and they even have full house time sometimes. Here's the thing... they are GREAT hoppers and GREAT jumpers. They love it. Sometimes at night you here them SLAM onto the floor of the cage, and then go up and do it again! But... no gliding!

They don't know how to glide!!!!! The previous person just didn't know the difference? They don't even stretch out their potagium.

Is this normal since they had such a sheltered life? How can I teach them to "fly" safely? Is it too late? Will they be "defective"? (Of course, I LOVE them anyway!) grin

Have you experienced this before? Is there an older thread I can read? THANK YOU FOR READING! Any answers will be helpful. agree
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#579800 - 06/30/08 11:00 AM Re: Defective Gliders? Not "Flying" [Re: SariYappa]
cntrychck18
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My rescues won't glider either =(
I think it may have something to do with not really having done it before and not knowing what their potagium is really for. But I am no expert- that is just what I am guessing.

Actually the only time they have was for a face hug. <3 Lola

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#579806 - 06/30/08 11:05 AM Re: Defective Gliders? Not "Flying" [Re: SariYappa]
ltlrdangel
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They aren't defective. I think some gliders don't glide because they don't want to or until you teach them. I believe there was an older thread about this, but I don't know how to find it. My females are more adventurous than my males. My girls will climb the curtains or door facings to get to the highest point and then glide down to me, most of the time landing on my face (ouch!). My males won't do that. I haven't spent a lot of time trying to get them to do this since most of our time is spent in the tent.
I am sure someone with more experience than me can answer your question better than I can, but I know they aren't defective and i don't think it is too late either.

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#579826 - 06/30/08 11:23 AM Re: Defective Gliders? Not "Flying" [Re: ]
texasglider
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my baby learned to glide by herself kind of , i would hold her up next to my bead as high as i could reach and she would jump then she would let out her "wings" and started gliding soon after

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#579829 - 06/30/08 11:24 AM Re: Defective Gliders? Not "Flying" [Re: ]
Kaczie
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Kaiden often jumps to things, smacking into them, instead of gliding. I've never seen him actually stretch out his patagium while he was jumping. I have noticed though that he occasionally overshoots his target. Not sure if this has to do with him not gliding instead.

On the other hand, Hayden always stretches out his patagium no matter how short or long the distance. I can have my hand right next to the cage for him to step on to but he will jump, throw his little arms and feet out and then when he gets close to his target he waves his arms and legs all around. He always makes his target but a bit clumsily.

I think it just depends on the glider and what they feel comfortable with.

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#579836 - 06/30/08 11:28 AM Re: Defective Gliders? Not "Flying" [Re: ]
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I have a lot of "ground gliders". They just prefer to walk or climb where they want to go. My younger gliders are more likely to glide. As they get older, they tend to stick more to keeping all feet on the ground. Some will stretch as far as they can just to avoid gliding.
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#579889 - 06/30/08 12:15 PM Re: Defective Gliders? Not "Flying" [Re: thefotokat]
Brittney
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I wouldn't rule it out yet - they might just be waiting until you're not looking! Bourbon says there's no such thing as a glider that can't glide. I used to think "Well, yeah, every glider but mine" as I have a "special" girl. My Kaya got sick when she was just 4 or so months old. Came home and found her kind of twitchy and uncoordinated. Took her to the vet, got her back to healthy, but she's still got neurological issues because of it all. All the lights are on upstairs, she's just a little wobbly lol. Anyway, I always assumed she couldn't jump let alone glide as she usually can't stabilize herself in one spot for long even though it's been a year since she got sick. One morning I got up earlier than usual and was just sitting on the couch in the dark in silence slowly waking up (I rise without shine wink ). I saw something going crazy in their cage so I watched. Kaya was twitching her way up to the top of the cage, pausing, and purposly jumping down to the "safety net" fleece bottom, legs spread wide as she did. Then she'd do it again. I was SO SO happy! I'd never seen her do that before. I always watch her to make sure her struggles don't outweigh her capacity to live happily, and I worry. Now I know she's better off than I thought, she just didn't do anything impressive in front of me b/c she wants me to keep babying her smile .


I recommend coaxing them to glide - this is how Carmella started being brave enough to go distances farther than a foot. Put one on the top of an open door and encourage them to jump down to you. Could also use a clean turned off ceiling fan. Takes FOREVER the first couple times but once they do it a couple times they usually get the gist. If you stand right under, arms stretched toward them and kind of wiggle your fingers it helps. It's never too late. Bourbon proved me wrong and maybe she will you as well. ALL GLIDERS CAN GLIDE! HTH wink

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#579896 - 06/30/08 12:27 PM Re: Defective Gliders? Not "Flying" [Re: ]
hipbchik Offline
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Registered: 02/16/04
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Loc: Tucson, AZ
Brittney, that's such an AWESOME story clap !! I got goosebumps reading it! Thank you for sharing that.
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#579938 - 06/30/08 01:25 PM Re: Defective Gliders? Not "Flying" [Re: hipbchik]
TWilson
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My Willy (he was a gift from ckb) can glide like no other. He glides any chance he gets, he loves it. He will glide even if it is only a quick one foot jump. But his all time favorite is to climb up the door frame, get to the top and glide all the way across the room. I'm telling you, Batman has nothing on this little man, he is amazing.

I didn't teach him that, maybe Cyndie did or he just has the heart of the ultimate glider.

BTW, my others are very jealous of his ability.

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#580336 - 07/01/08 10:43 AM Re: Defective Gliders? Not "Flying" [Re: ]
SariYappa Offline
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Registered: 05/11/08
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Loc: Upstate, SC
Originally Posted By: cntrychck18
My rescues won't glider either =(
Actually the only time they have was for a face hug. <3 Lola

LOL. I get face hugs all the time during tent time, but it's a "hop" or a "jump" that gets them there! But now that I think about it, I guess they do stretch out that Potagium for the hugs, huh?

Originally Posted By: ltlrdangel
They aren't defective... but I know they aren't defective and i don't think it is too late either.

Thanks for the quick reply in making me feel better!

Brittney, What a Story! I LOVE it! YEAH for your little girl dance
thanks for the instructions. We will be practicing, and let you know how things go! It'll take some time, I'm sure, but I can't wait! I think once they do get the hang of it (if they do), then THEY will love it too! Can't wait...

Thanks everyone else for your replies!
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#580339 - 07/01/08 10:45 AM Re: Defective Gliders? Not "Flying" [Re: ]
SariYappa Offline
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Registered: 05/11/08
Posts: 5997
Loc: Upstate, SC
Originally Posted By: TWilson
BTW, my others are very jealous of his ability.

This is very interesting. Do your others seem to "try" to glide when they see Willy do this? Or do they just stay "grounded"? I'm quite curious about this. Have you tried any "training" with the others? (sounds like Willy is a blast!)
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