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#587063 - 07/10/08 11:32 PM Help! My Bella died today and had joeys in pouch
KayKay Offline
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Registered: 01/13/08
Posts: 106
Loc: Warrensburg, MO
I need some advice. My Bella died today. I don't know why but her mate, Edward, killed their 3 month old joey today. I knew it was almost time to remove the older joeys but I guess I waited too long. He tore him all up and I didn't see any wounds on Bella but I found her tonight and she had joeys. They are pink with no signs of hair and little bitty. I removed them from her pouch and am now warming them in fleece on a heating pad. Each has taken about .1 cc of joey formula. Is there any tips or suggests to help me keep these little babies alive. I have read Suz's page and I am following what she has said.

Thanks for any help
Kandice
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Wife to Kim(sweet man)
Mom of Natasha(15) & Paul(5), 6 suggies, 4 dogs, 2 cats,
2 snakes, Timmy(A. Grey)& Xavier(S. ray)
Grandma to 1 manx, 3 G. pigs), 2 c. snakes, 1 hamster & 2 bunnies.

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#587069 - 07/10/08 11:39 PM Re: Help! My Bella died today and had joeys in pouch [Re: KayKay]
7glider7
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I don't have Suz's number but someone should have it...I'm sure she won't mind if you call her...is it on her website?

Please don't hesitate to call her, she is great with things like this. I wish I knew how to help you but I don't know much about babies. Hang in there, you are doing great keeping them warm.

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#587071 - 07/10/08 11:41 PM Re: Help! My Bella died today and had joeys in pouch [Re: ]
ssdreamsicles Offline
Glider Slave

Registered: 05/10/07
Posts: 1871
Loc: kentucky
Her number in on her website. How big are the babies?
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www.treasuredgliders.com


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#587074 - 07/10/08 11:49 PM Re: Help! My Bella died today and had joeys in pouch [Re: ssdreamsicles]
LSardou Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Registered: 03/01/06
Posts: 21060
Loc: Kansas
I'm sorry for your loss. Please try and stay calm, and also make sure that you give Edward extra attention.
Here is Suz's phone #
Phone numbers:
home 440-953-0904
toll-free (home) 866-399-4476
cell 440-520-4799
work 440-846-2665 (usually on M & Th, from 9 - 2)

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#587077 - 07/10/08 11:50 PM Re: Help! My Bella died today and had joeys in pouch [Re: ssdreamsicles]
KayKay Offline
Joey Member

Registered: 01/13/08
Posts: 106
Loc: Warrensburg, MO
Thanks, I will call her. The babies are about 1/2 to 3/4 inch long.

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Wife to Kim(sweet man)
Mom of Natasha(15) & Paul(5), 6 suggies, 4 dogs, 2 cats,
2 snakes, Timmy(A. Grey)& Xavier(S. ray)
Grandma to 1 manx, 3 G. pigs), 2 c. snakes, 1 hamster & 2 bunnies.

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#587094 - 07/11/08 12:13 AM Re: Help! My Bella died today and had joeys in pouch [Re: KayKay]
Laurens_Babies Offline
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Registered: 03/04/07
Posts: 3570
Loc: Kansas City, MO
Oh no Kandice!! If you need any help don't hesitate to call you know Im not too far.
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~Lauren

Lauren's Animal Kingdom
*Website is down temporarily should be back up by November!*

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#587106 - 07/11/08 01:18 AM Re: Help! My Bella died today and had joeys in pouch [Re: KayKay]
Rhapsody
Unregistered


While I am unable to help you in this matter I wanted to let you know that I am sorry for your loss... and I am praying that some of the more experienced members here on GC will be able to help you through this difficult time for you and your gliders... ((( hugs))).

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#587109 - 07/11/08 01:36 AM Re: Help! My Bella died today and had joeys in pouch [Re: ]
ssdreamsicles Offline
Glider Slave

Registered: 05/10/07
Posts: 1871
Loc: kentucky
Im so sorry for your loss and what you are going thru. Suz is the best help you can find for the little ones. she will know what to do. I have taken care of premature joeys but they had some hair so were older. Do the best you can and know that that small and no hair they are very premee. Sending thoughts and hugs to you as well as prayers. Please keep us updated.
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www.treasuredgliders.com


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#587130 - 07/11/08 06:15 AM Re: Help! My Bella died today and had joeys in pouch [Re: ssdreamsicles]
sugarglidersuz Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Registered: 08/28/04
Posts: 14788
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
Although the answering machine picked up during the night, whoever tried to call didn't leave a message and I didn't hop out of bed quick enough to grab the phone, nor did the cell phone ring dunno Was that you, by any chance? If the joeys are still alive, please try to call me this morning if you still have questions...
It is very hard to get pink joeys to survive, but it has happened upon rare occasion. The key is to keep them warm enough and to give them very small amounts of formula at a time...
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Suz Enyedy
:bb: Carina & Coobah
Allira & Gizmo :grey:
:grey: Picasso, Trinity Joy & Luna
:rbridge: DaisyMae; Darwin; Mareki; Mambo; Pika; Cricky; Reggie & Bobo, Pepe & Bittah


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#587134 - 07/11/08 06:36 AM Re: Help! My Bella died today and had joeys in pouch [Re: sugarglidersuz]
KayKay Offline
Joey Member

Registered: 01/13/08
Posts: 106
Loc: Warrensburg, MO
Thank you everyone for your hugs and concern. thanks

Suz- I did try to call you around 11:30 central but as the phone was ringing I noticed one baby not moving. So I which focus to the babies again and was going to try your cell but both didn't make it so there was no need to wake you.


I am sorry I did not get back on here to let everyone know but I was very upset and just wanted to cry myself to sleep. upset Bella was my baby, I carried her in my bra almost everywhere. None of my other gliders will let me do that, yet. I knew in my heart that the joeys were just too premature for me to save but I tried. I just wish I would have removed the older joeys sooner from them. Now, I have Edward by himself and Rosalie by herself (but as soon as she is a little older she will go in with my Gambit).

Shoot, I have to get ready for work...Thanks again everyone.
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Wife to Kim(sweet man)
Mom of Natasha(15) & Paul(5), 6 suggies, 4 dogs, 2 cats,
2 snakes, Timmy(A. Grey)& Xavier(S. ray)
Grandma to 1 manx, 3 G. pigs), 2 c. snakes, 1 hamster & 2 bunnies.

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#587136 - 07/11/08 06:42 AM Re: Help! My Bella died today and had joeys in pouch [Re: KayKay]
sugarglidersuz Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Registered: 08/28/04
Posts: 14788
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
KayKay,
I'm so sorry they didn't make it cry Please know that you did everything you could for them. Losing a glider is hard enough, but to lose her joeys, too shakehead That is a pain that is incredibly deep. Please know that we're here for you hug2 hug2 hug2

Moving this over to Rainbow Memorials now...
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Suz Enyedy
:bb: Carina & Coobah
Allira & Gizmo :grey:
:grey: Picasso, Trinity Joy & Luna
:rbridge: DaisyMae; Darwin; Mareki; Mambo; Pika; Cricky; Reggie & Bobo, Pepe & Bittah


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#587138 - 07/11/08 06:44 AM Re: Help! My Bella died today and had joeys in pouch [Re: sugarglidersuz]
sweetheart26 Offline
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Registered: 07/12/07
Posts: 3305
Loc: USA
awwww im so sorry:(
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#587140 - 07/11/08 06:53 AM Re: Help! My Bella died today and had joeys in pouch [Re: sweetheart26]
Rachel
Unregistered


This is why I won't breed. With the local sugar glider breeder (breeders are few and far between around here) moving I've become the sugar glider nut to call. I just can't breed though because I know I'd be just like you, KayKay. I'd do everything in my power to help the poor things and end with my heart broken. Not to mention the loss of your big girl and her older joey. It's all just too painful. I know it's nature but it's awful.

I'm so, so sorry. What an awful thing to go through.

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#587146 - 07/11/08 07:15 AM Re: Help! My Bella died today and had joeys in pouch [Re: ]
macwood6
Unregistered


hug2

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#587166 - 07/11/08 07:57 AM Re: Help! My Bella died today and had joeys in pouch [Re: ]
pappy1264 Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Registered: 08/31/06
Posts: 11015
Loc: MA
I am so very sorry. Godspeed four very special angels....


Edited by pappy1264 (07/11/08 07:57 AM)
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Timmy, Gidget(RIP), Bandit, Petey(RIP), Phoebe, Jake (RIP) Piper(RIP), Pru(RIP), Paige, Cole, Molly(RIP), Oliver, Wyatt, Roo(RIP), Romeo, Pennie, Mandy(RIP), Madison, Garth, Kikipoo, Stasia, Bella, Petunia(RIP), Helen, Sydney, Kizzy and Sweet Pea's mom,
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#587260 - 07/11/08 11:14 AM Re: Help! My Bella died today and had joeys in pouch [Re: pappy1264]
obione
Unregistered


Kaykay I am sorry for your loss as well. They are all very special to us

Sherri gangel Sneaky Mcgee 7/10/08
20 well loved suggies

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#587274 - 07/11/08 11:48 AM Re: Help! My Bella died today and had joeys in pouch [Re: ]
minkasmom Offline
Serious Glideritis

Registered: 11/08/04
Posts: 5965
Loc: Northeast Indiana
KayKay, my heart cries for you...to lose one of your "favorite" fuzzfaces is sad enough, then to lose 3 of her joeys as well... cry

I'm sorry. I don't know what else to say.

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Minkasmom (Papillon Kisses)
Slave to:
28 gliders,
5 cats,
and ONE husband (can't handle two, lol!)
gangel Remembering all my lost loves cry

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#587320 - 07/11/08 12:55 PM Re: Help! My Bella died today and had joeys in pouch [Re: minkasmom]
ssdreamsicles Offline
Glider Slave

Registered: 05/10/07
Posts: 1871
Loc: kentucky
Im so sorry for your loss but know you did your very best with the little ones but they were just too young to make it. Your bra baby and her baby knew how much you loved them and they are looking down on you know with love. Many hugs.
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cloud9Melissa
www.treasuredgliders.com


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#587736 - 07/11/08 11:19 PM Re: Help! My Bella died today and had joeys in pouch [Re: ssdreamsicles]
KayKay Offline
Joey Member

Registered: 01/13/08
Posts: 106
Loc: Warrensburg, MO
Well, tonight I was giving my extra attention to my furbutts that are okay and I discovered that it was Bella and her daughter, Rosalie and not Jasper that died. Edward was very snuggly tonight. Once again thank you for everyones help.
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Wife to Kim(sweet man)
Mom of Natasha(15) & Paul(5), 6 suggies, 4 dogs, 2 cats,
2 snakes, Timmy(A. Grey)& Xavier(S. ray)
Grandma to 1 manx, 3 G. pigs), 2 c. snakes, 1 hamster & 2 bunnies.

www.kodakgallery.com/dyers_photos

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#587904 - 07/12/08 10:47 AM Re: Help! My Bella died today and had joeys in pouch [Re: KayKay]
Feather Offline
Administrator

Registered: 01/19/08
Posts: 12170
Loc: Wisconsin
I am so sorry to hear that your little Bella died, with such small joeys.

What a horrible loss for you to lose all of them.

Deepest Sympathy,
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Kimberley
Feathers-Sweetie, Sklyar Blue, Mister Peanut, Big Mack & Ibo
Fur-Guinan, Mr. Spock, T'Mir, Micheal, Stevie, Cho & Maharet :bb: T'Pol, Elizabeth & Curzon :wfb: TY, TJ, Khayman & T'Pring :rtmo: O'Ryan :leu:
Forever in my heart, Gizmo, Tucker and the rest of my babies over the :rbridge:


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#588212 - 07/12/08 07:14 PM Re: Help! My Bella died today and had joeys in pouch [Re: Feather]
BKaylor74 Offline
Glider Explorer

Registered: 07/08/06
Posts: 208
Loc: Columbia SC
I'm sorry to hear about your loss. I hope the joey that survived, and the father, will be okay.

Is there any way of knowing what caused Bella to die? Did you know she had joeys before you found her? Is it possible that Edward panicked when he discovered Bella had passed and that could be what caused him to turn on the others? I don't mean to bring up any harmful thoughts as I know it must be difficult for you right now.

I'm just asking because I have 2 young female joeys and an older male. All 3 are unrelated. I've been fortunate enough to never have had any problems with raising joeys, but then I read stories like this happening, and wonder if mine will be okay. So it concerns me to know what signs to look for, if I ever have to prevent something like this from happening.

My older boy is still in the cage with his parents. He's about 4 months oop. I've been trying to find a new home for him but so far no real luck.
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#588254 - 07/12/08 09:10 PM Re: Help! My Bella died today and had joeys in pouch [Re: BKaylor74]
KayKay Offline
Joey Member

Registered: 01/13/08
Posts: 106
Loc: Warrensburg, MO
I did not know about the joeys in pouch. They were very small. I don't think Edward had anything to do with it I think Bella and Rosalie were fighting. My daughter saw them but didn't understand how bad it could get. Edward and his son, Jasper seem fine just needing more snuggling than they normally do. I am going to get them a vet check appointment on Monday for them both. My other gliders are all doing great. I loved having the one set of joeys but now I am going to get these two males nuetured and no more breeding. I can't take this again. I will stick with breeding dogs or G pigs.




Edited by KayKay (07/12/08 09:12 PM)
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Wife to Kim(sweet man)
Mom of Natasha(15) & Paul(5), 6 suggies, 4 dogs, 2 cats,
2 snakes, Timmy(A. Grey)& Xavier(S. ray)
Grandma to 1 manx, 3 G. pigs), 2 c. snakes, 1 hamster & 2 bunnies.

www.kodakgallery.com/dyers_photos

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#588580 - 07/13/08 02:34 PM Re: Help! My Bella died today and had joeys in pouch [Re: KayKay]
Lynsie Offline
Serious Glideritis

Registered: 02/07/05
Posts: 8329
Loc: Quincy, IL 62305
I'm so sorry Kandice *hugs*
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#589396 - 07/14/08 07:29 PM Re: Help! My Bella died today and had joeys in pouch [Re: Lynsie]
sugarglidersuz Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Registered: 08/28/04
Posts: 14788
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
I'm so very sorry hug2
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Suz Enyedy
:bb: Carina & Coobah
Allira & Gizmo :grey:
:grey: Picasso, Trinity Joy & Luna
:rbridge: DaisyMae; Darwin; Mareki; Mambo; Pika; Cricky; Reggie & Bobo, Pepe & Bittah


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#589439 - 07/14/08 08:38 PM Re: Help! My Bella died today and had joeys in pouch [Re: sugarglidersuz]
KayKay Offline
Joey Member

Registered: 01/13/08
Posts: 106
Loc: Warrensburg, MO
Thank you so much... Daddy and son are doing fine. Eating and snuggling good.
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Wife to Kim(sweet man)
Mom of Natasha(15) & Paul(5), 6 suggies, 4 dogs, 2 cats,
2 snakes, Timmy(A. Grey)& Xavier(S. ray)
Grandma to 1 manx, 3 G. pigs), 2 c. snakes, 1 hamster & 2 bunnies.

www.kodakgallery.com/dyers_photos

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#589654 - 07/15/08 07:20 AM Re: Help! My Bella died today and had joeys in pouch [Re: KayKay]
kthiessen Offline
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Registered: 06/04/06
Posts: 4526
Loc: Columbia, Missouri
I'm so sorry Kandice. hug2
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~ Kathy ~


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