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#652197 - 10/07/08 02:09 PM If Crickets are out; anyone tried feeder Roaches?
happygypsymoth Offline
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Registered: 07/24/08
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Loc: Navarre, Florida
If we shouldn't use crickets or grasshoppers due to Aflatoxins, how about feeder roaches?

Has anyone tried them?

Not the normal household kind, the feeder ones.
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#652206 - 10/07/08 02:19 PM Re: If Crickets are out; anyone tried feeder Roaches? [Re: happygypsymoth]
Monster
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I haven't tried it yet, but have researched it & fully intend on starting a lobster roach farm very soon thumb

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#652208 - 10/07/08 02:24 PM Re: If Crickets are out; anyone tried feeder Roaches? [Re: ]
happygypsymoth Offline
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Keep us posted on it!
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#652270 - 10/07/08 04:06 PM Re: If Crickets are out; anyone tried feeder Roaches? [Re: happygypsymoth]
nancy1202 Offline
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Registered: 05/21/08
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Loc: Kentucky
My guys have just played with the lobsters so far, but there has been no eating! I just discovered that they were an acceptable insect on a thread here a week or so ago. I'm not giving up yet, though!
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#652290 - 10/07/08 04:30 PM Re: If Crickets are out; anyone tried feeder Roaches? [Re: nancy1202]
sugarlope Offline
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Feeder roaches are a wonderful feeder, very clean and very healthy! There are several different kinds, some climb and/or fly and some do not. If you don't use any grain/corn/nuts with them, they actually carry much less risk of carrying Aflatoxin than other feeders, even Mealworms. thumb
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#652299 - 10/07/08 04:41 PM Re: If Crickets are out; anyone tried feeder Roaches? [Re: sugarlope]
happygypsymoth Offline
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That's nice to know!
Do you know a place to find out which ones fly, climb, or not?
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#652401 - 10/07/08 07:49 PM Re: If Crickets are out; anyone tried feeder Roaches? [Re: happygypsymoth]
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This is a reputable supplier, with some helpful info, but their prices seem quite high. I bought my starter colony at a reptile show for $.08 ea.

NY Worms - Feeder Roaches

I don't know about those flying roaches! Lobsters have wings, but do not fly, they use their wings to slow their descent - kind of like our gliders!


Edited by nancy1202 (10/07/08 07:54 PM)
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#652433 - 10/07/08 08:57 PM Re: If Crickets are out; anyone tried feeder Roaches? [Re: nancy1202]
Adri Offline
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Registered: 08/08/08
Posts: 956
Loc: Homestead, FL
OMG! Yet they condem my super worms, how can you guys stomach the roaches. Ewww! Thank you very much I'm sticking to my worms roflmao roflmao roflmao
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#652439 - 10/07/08 09:06 PM Re: If Crickets are out; anyone tried feeder Roaches? [Re: Adri]
Celeste
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I'm with you Adri, lol. I'll stick with superworms..I can't stand the thought of a bunch of roaches getting lose, yuck! roflmao

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#652463 - 10/07/08 09:34 PM Re: If Crickets are out; anyone tried feeder Roaches? [Re: ]
happygypsymoth Offline
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Registered: 07/24/08
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I know, it sounds gross! But I have also had crickets and mealworm Beetles on the loose in the house! Yikes!

But these aren't the same kind of roaches as the common household cockroaches. And they don't cause infestations.

I just want to make my Suggies as happy as possible. And I know I couldn't do Pinkies, so these would be next on the list.
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RIP Grace 12/12/12 Harmony 1/17/13 Turbo & Everest 2014
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#652475 - 10/07/08 09:50 PM Re: If Crickets are out; anyone tried feeder Roaches? [Re: happygypsymoth]
Mio
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My local pet store owner recommended feeder roaches to me a few months back... but I never really got it started because I couldn't find anything that told me how healthy they were for the gliders. I may give it another look now, though, since we're STILL out of mealies here.

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#652514 - 10/07/08 10:54 PM Re: If Crickets are out; anyone tried feeder Roaches? [Re: ]
nancy1202 Offline
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Registered: 05/21/08
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Loc: Kentucky
Oh the things we do for our gliders!!! Yeah, it takes a while to feel "comfortable" with the roaches - 1 year with no escapees has definitely helped! I do think it would take longer than that to get used to cutting the head off or smashing the head of a superworm! Live pinkies are also awful. I gave one of my beardies one pinkie 2 years ago, and the crunching was awful ... shakehead ... that was the end of that! I had bought two, and took the other back to the petstore. Now frozen rats for my snake are NO PROBLEM! They don't move, and I'm sure they were euthanized humanely... dunno
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#652538 - 10/07/08 11:15 PM Re: If Crickets are out; anyone tried feeder Roaches? [Re: nancy1202]
happygypsymoth Offline
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Registered: 07/24/08
Posts: 409
Loc: Navarre, Florida
Here's some info on feeder insects' nutrional value:

http://www.wormman.com/cat_roaches.cfm
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RIP Grace 12/12/12 Harmony 1/17/13 Turbo & Everest 2014
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#652563 - 10/07/08 11:52 PM Re: If Crickets are out; anyone tried feeder Roaches? [Re: happygypsymoth]
sugarlope Offline
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Registered: 03/28/02
Posts: 19739
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Most feeder roaches (maybe all?) don't fly, so I may have misspoke - as far as non climbing species, some of them are;
Discoid
Guyana Orange Spotted
Orange Head
Six spotted
Turkistan
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#652727 - 10/08/08 09:07 AM Re: If Crickets are out; anyone tried feeder Roaches? [Re: sugarlope]
buttercup
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*shudder* I can't even handle the word "roaches"....yuck!

I think Ill just stick with mealies lol...I'm a big scaredy cat when it comes to roaches.

Even tho you guys have written they aren't like the nasty household ones...nope...nuh uh lol..not for me!

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#652734 - 10/08/08 09:14 AM Re: If Crickets are out; anyone tried feeder Roaches? [Re: ]
Monster
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I have a friend that uses a different type of feeder roach & she just smashes their heads before she feeds them so they can't run around the cage...

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#652764 - 10/08/08 10:14 AM Re: If Crickets are out; anyone tried feeder Roaches? [Re: ]
Rockey
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I didn't even know that feeder roaches existed! I learn something new everyday...

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#652803 - 10/08/08 11:33 AM Re: If Crickets are out; anyone tried feeder Roaches? [Re: ]
Mio
Unregistered


Are there any kinds that are dangerous/not healthy for gliders?

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#652854 - 10/08/08 12:22 PM Re: If Crickets are out; anyone tried feeder Roaches? [Re: ]
sugarlope Offline
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Registered: 03/28/02
Posts: 19739
Loc: in my happy place
Some of the larger adult feeder roaches have spines on their legs that are dangerous, so you have to remove their legs before feeding them to your glider. But you can feed the juvenile stages (before they grow the spines) while they are small without a problem.

And...don't feed household roaches or the wild caught roaches.
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#653064 - 10/08/08 05:15 PM Re: If Crickets are out; anyone tried feeder Roaches? [Re: sugarlope]
kelii Offline
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Registered: 01/21/07
Posts: 801
Loc: North Georgia
I'm thinking of doing feeder roaches one day, but I live in Fl and it's illegal to ship them here.
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#653124 - 10/08/08 06:48 PM Re: If Crickets are out; anyone tried feeder Roaches? [Re: kelii]
sugarlope Offline
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Are there any feeder supply companies in FL that sell them? That makes sense, since parts of FL have a tropical climate and they could survive if let loose.
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If we never loved, then maybe we would never feel pain. Love anyway. It's worth it.

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#653127 - 10/08/08 06:51 PM Re: If Crickets are out; anyone tried feeder Roaches? [Re: sugarlope]
kelii Offline
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Registered: 01/21/07
Posts: 801
Loc: North Georgia
none that I know of. I tried looking before.
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#653132 - 10/08/08 06:58 PM Re: If Crickets are out; anyone tried feeder Roaches? [Re: sugarlope]
Celeste
Unregistered


Yup, That's why I'm anti roaches..I've seen enough in my lifetime! Lol. And yeah, I think they are illegal to ship here too.

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#653426 - 10/09/08 01:44 AM Re: If Crickets are out; anyone tried feeder Roaches? [Re: ]
Mio
Unregistered


creeeeeeeeeeeepy to think of those HUGE things loose and procreating around the house. UGH! lol
I mentioned the prospect of raising feeder roaches to my father....
"Uh-Uh! Not in MY house!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
hahahahahaha... He's not too fond of bugs.

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