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#660306 - 10/21/08 10:48 PM Missing Fur
Kage Offline
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Registered: 04/29/08
Posts: 621
Loc: Oklahoma City, OK
I noticed one on of my girls (Oreo) that she has two spots on her head that are small tufs of fur missing. I watched her for about 30 mins to get a better look and there wasn't even bad. Just her skin. It scared me at first but she is fine. Still acts the same as she normally does.

I'm just concerned. They are between (above) her eyes and near her ears a bit. The little spots don't even touch the stripe. She is eating and drinking water and everything. I was wandering if she hurt herself some how. She is fine though. I just don't know how those got there or how that happened. I was wandering what you guys had to say. I bet the fur will grow back.

I'm wandering if my other girl and her got in a fight or something. They are sisters and been together for pretty much all their life.

I'm pretty worried about her even though it doesn't seem like it's very major though.

Sorry if this was the wrong place to put this.
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#660320 - 10/21/08 11:04 PM Re: Missing Fur [Re: Kage]
LSardou Offline
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Registered: 03/01/06
Posts: 21060
Loc: Kansas
How long have you had your gliders for? If you've had them for awhile is this something that has just occurred?
Sometimes loss of fur is a sign of stress, or diet related.
Has anything new been added to her environment?
What diet are you feeding?
If you can give us a little more information maybe we can be of further help.

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#660366 - 10/22/08 01:01 AM Re: Missing Fur [Re: LSardou]
sugarlope Offline
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Registered: 03/28/02
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The pattern of hair loss you are describing is often attributed to overgrooming. Linda brought up several great points to think about that may lead to overgrooming and/or hair loss, has anything changed recently?
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#660402 - 10/22/08 05:51 AM Re: Missing Fur [Re: sugarlope]
sugarglidersuz Offline
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Registered: 08/28/04
Posts: 14788
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It definitely sounds like overgrooming. This is almost always due to some stress in the environment. There's a great article you can read about stress factors that may help you find the cause of her overgrooming. Sometimes it takes several changes to find the trigger of the overgrooming. With my Allira, it took me a few months to finally figure out all the stressors that caused hers - but once I got them all figured out, she hasn't overgroomed since - and it's been a couple of years now. Here's the article:
Stress in Sugar Gliders
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#660448 - 10/22/08 07:23 AM Re: Missing Fur [Re: sugarglidersuz]
lindayaks
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I just read the link above, and it's a wonderful explanation of signs and symptoms of stress and what causes it. I just have two comments, because Overgrooming and SMing are in the same category.

I think everyone should know that Overgrooming does NOT always progress to SMing. MOST of the time it does not.

The SM "cry" was not mentioned in this paragraph, either.

I guess I'm just trying to say I think these two signs of stress should be separated, since SMing can be life threatening and overgrooming is not.

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#660456 - 10/22/08 07:39 AM Re: Missing Fur [Re: ]
Monster
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Originally Posted By: lindayaks

I guess I'm just trying to say I think these two signs of stress should be separated, since SMing can be life threatening and overgrooming is not.


I think this is a misleading statement because often overgrooming is a result of pain in the area of the overgrooming. For example, Xfilefan had a glider that was overgrooming his head and it turned out that he had a tooth abcess and the overgrooming was due to pain in the area.

If Jen had assumed this was merely stress related or "not life threatening" she would not have taken this little glider to the vet & found the infection. An untreated infection can quickly go systemic & kill the glider.

I think any sign of overgrooming is cause for a vet visit, just to rule out a physical reason for the behavior. After illness and injury have been ruled out, then we can assume its stress. But to do so before medical attention is just too risky.

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#660548 - 10/22/08 11:49 AM Re: Missing Fur [Re: ]
lindayaks
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Originally Posted By: Monster
Originally Posted By: lindayaks

I guess I'm just trying to say I think these two signs of stress should be separated, since SMing can be life threatening and overgrooming is not.


I think this is a misleading statement because often overgrooming is a result of pain in the area of the overgrooming. For example, Xfilefan had a glider that was overgrooming his head and it turned out that he had a tooth abcess and the overgrooming was due to pain in the area.

If Jen had assumed this was merely stress related or "not life threatening" she would not have taken this little glider to the vet & found the infection. An untreated infection can quickly go systemic & kill the glider.

I think any sign of overgrooming is cause for a vet visit, just to rule out a physical reason for the behavior. After illness and injury have been ruled out, then we can assume its stress. But to do so before medical attention is just too risky.


I have to concede, when you put it that way you are absolutely correct. Better safe than sorry!

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#660749 - 10/22/08 07:36 PM Re: Missing Fur [Re: ]
Kage Offline
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Registered: 04/29/08
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Loc: Oklahoma City, OK
I'm going to talk to my parents about taking me with them to the vet. I have the money, but finding the time to go is hard. My vet closes before my mom and I get off work. I have school all day also. I would take them myself, but I wrecked my car last month. I'm going to talk to my dad about it and see if he can take me before he goes to work.

My dad keeps moving things around in the room they are in. I've been feeding them the bml diet. I've had them for 2 years and I just noticed the spots last night.
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#660754 - 10/22/08 07:55 PM Re: Missing Fur [Re: Kage]
sugarglidersuz Offline
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Registered: 08/28/04
Posts: 14788
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
If your dad is rearranging the furniture, then there's a good possibility that is what is stressing them out. A vet check just to be safe is an excellent plan though. Please keep us updated hug2
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#660762 - 10/22/08 08:09 PM Re: Missing Fur [Re: sugarglidersuz]
Kage Offline
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Registered: 04/29/08
Posts: 621
Loc: Oklahoma City, OK
That is what I'm thinkin it could be but I'm really scared it could be something else, and I will. You guys are really helpful and I owe you guys one.
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#661496 - 10/24/08 08:46 AM Re: Missing Fur [Re: Kage]
lindayaks
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Let us know what the vet says when you can. Keep up the good work.
Ask your Dad to PLEEEEASE stop moving things around! LOL roflmao

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#661851 - 10/24/08 08:29 PM Re: Missing Fur [Re: ]
Kage Offline
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Registered: 04/29/08
Posts: 621
Loc: Oklahoma City, OK
I will. I just hope so.
Well I take her in next week, that was the earliest I could get her in. The other vet I called it said it would be a month. So I took the one that said next week.
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#662064 - 10/25/08 11:12 AM Re: Missing Fur [Re: Kage]
lindayaks
Unregistered


I hope this vet is knowledgeable about gliders....did you ask?

Has the fur loss gotten any worse? Have you been able to catch them rubbing or over grooming?

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#662066 - 10/25/08 11:15 AM Re: Missing Fur [Re: ]
Kage Offline
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Registered: 04/29/08
Posts: 621
Loc: Oklahoma City, OK
Yeah they do, they said it was stress but next saturday was the only day to get them in. No, the spots are still the same. I have't caught them or anything, I just noticed it.
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#662085 - 10/25/08 11:53 AM Re: Missing Fur [Re: Kage]
lindayaks
Unregistered


That is good to hear. I have a female glider who considers me "Mom", and she stressed when I had to leave her behind for a whole month. She rubbed the fur off over her eyes, too. It's growing back, now. She'll have to be my pouch baby if I take any more long trips, for sure!

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#662096 - 10/25/08 12:12 PM Re: Missing Fur [Re: ]
Kage Offline
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Registered: 04/29/08
Posts: 621
Loc: Oklahoma City, OK
Aww she loves you very much!
That is really cute story though.
I'm glad her fur is growing back.
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#666186 - 11/01/08 07:01 PM Re: Missing Fur [Re: Kage]
Kage Offline
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Registered: 04/29/08
Posts: 621
Loc: Oklahoma City, OK
Well, they are both fine.
The vet just said to watch them for awhile.
Nothing more, so that is the update on this.
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#666191 - 11/01/08 07:10 PM Re: Missing Fur [Re: Kage]
lindayaks
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Good news! Glad they are OK. They will calm down. dance

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#666192 - 11/01/08 07:12 PM Re: Missing Fur [Re: ]
Kage Offline
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Registered: 04/29/08
Posts: 621
Loc: Oklahoma City, OK
Thank you! It means a lot to me.
you are really helpful.
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#666194 - 11/01/08 07:17 PM Re: Missing Fur [Re: Kage]
lindayaks
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I know how it is with a new pet, you really sometimes don't even know what questions to ask, let alone the answers! LOL

Hang around and read these forums and share with all these good glider people, and you'll learn!

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#666206 - 11/01/08 07:55 PM Re: Missing Fur [Re: ]
Kage Offline
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Registered: 04/29/08
Posts: 621
Loc: Oklahoma City, OK
Yeah, that's what I've been doing. Even though I had them for like 2 years. I love them a lot. I bought some new stuff but I'm afraid to put them in the cage since they are already stressed out as it is and their cage looks really boring.

I got them a better wheel, well to really trim their little nails. It's huge though. I didnt mean to order it really big, but I bet they will have a blast in it. Once they calm down enough for I can put it in their cage.
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