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#674807 - 11/15/08 03:04 PM a really mean female..help
jacqui
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hello everyone.. i have 2 suggies a male that is sooooo sweet and a female that is the meaniest thing.. no matter how much time i spend with her she she always bites and attacks him when he come back to the cage.. i have soooo many cuts from her because i wont give up on her.. any advice???

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#674812 - 11/15/08 03:15 PM Re: a really mean female..help [Re: ]
sandbat Offline
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Registered: 08/27/08
Posts: 633
Loc: Dallas, TX
Hi there...how much do you interact with her? Does she attack you and the male? Were these two gliders you got separately? If so, they may need to be quarantined for a while.

Cessna (the glider I had) bit and crabbed a lot until she got to know me when I first got her (and even then, she never stopped crabbing when something annoyed or startled her.) It could just take some work for her to learn to socialize. But if the female glider is attacking the male on a regular basis, you might want to separate them on a temporary basis and and try working with her a while before re-introducing them.

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#674814 - 11/15/08 03:17 PM Re: a really mean female..help [Re: ]
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She attacks him or you? If she is attacking him and leaving wounds on him, they need to be separated. Some gliders do not get along and every once in a while you find a glider that isn't happy with another glider.

If she is attacking you, she doesn't trust you yet. Try spending more one on one time with her and work on building a bond with her. Here are several links that may help you get started.
http://www.glidercentral.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/660588/Into_the_Bonding_Pit#Post660588
http://www.angelfire.com/nb/sugarglider/bonding.html
http://www1.freewebs.com/critterkisses/bonding.htm
http://www.sugar-gliders.com/glidervet-65.htm
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#674818 - 11/15/08 03:23 PM Re: a really mean female..help [Re: sandbat]
glidernanny
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pouch protective pouches have made a world of difference in our home. you can get them from Karen/suggeebaby/TGI and they are not expensive but have become priceless here. i am amazed at how much of a difference i've seen in the gliders' initial reaction to me just by them being able to see what's coming. it's a big step when your not starting off the bonding time by scaring/upsetting them to begin with. also the use of scent blankets if your not yet using them will help her to become more comfortable with your presence. is your male neutered? she may be fending off any potential mating advances whether they are happening or not.

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#674820 - 11/15/08 03:25 PM Re: a really mean female..help [Re: sugarlope]
jacqui
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she doesnt ATTACK him it more like when i put my hand in there for them to come, he does but she pulls his tail back and pulls it with her mouth (like she doesnt want him near me).. and i spend about 2 or 3 hours a day with her for the past year and she still doesnt like me.. even when i looking at them in there cage she run up at trys to grab & bite me.. i have so many scars from her lol.. is this normal??

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#674824 - 11/15/08 03:35 PM Re: a really mean female..help [Re: sandbat]
jacqui
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i got them together a year ago.. i spent them same amount of time with the both of them.. about 2/3 hours a day.. i still make her be with me but it's a price to pay.. i will be bleeding lol

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#674830 - 11/15/08 03:46 PM Re: a really mean female..help [Re: ]
LSardou Offline
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Registered: 03/01/06
Posts: 21060
Loc: Kansas
I'm wondering if she might reacting to a certain perfume, soap, shampoo, lotion, etc....there are certain smells that some gliders just do not like.
Try and change any of those items on a gradual basis to see if it helps. Process of elimination...

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#674892 - 11/15/08 05:27 PM Re: a really mean female..help [Re: LSardou]
Adri Offline
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Registered: 08/08/08
Posts: 956
Loc: Homestead, FL
Like Linda said, I have an Alpha male who can't stand my friend Selene, just the scent of her on any of their things and he will attack, the pouch, the dish, a toy etc. I'm sorry you are going through this I know how hard it is when they react this way towards you. I do think it is something you wear as in the case of my friend. Has anyone else tried to work with her? Does she act the same with everyone or is it just with you?
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#674898 - 11/15/08 05:33 PM Re: a really mean female..help [Re: Adri]
jacqui
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thanks for everyone's input but she acts like that with everyone.. it so bad that my husband doesnt play with her and i dont let her near my 6 year old son.. they play with my male.. i just feel bad for her.. i luv them soo much.. im going to try the soap and lotion thing.. hope it works.. and thanks again..


Jacqui..

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#674929 - 11/15/08 06:24 PM Re: a really mean female..help [Re: ]
LSardou Offline
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Registered: 03/01/06
Posts: 21060
Loc: Kansas
The more stressful reactions made towards her the longer she will remain fearful. Sugar gliders are highly emotional little ones. Once they have been exposed to a certain level of fear, it takes a lot of time and patience to get them to heal from the trauma. So even on a regular basis, if she senses the stress, tension, frustration, etc. from her caretakers and her environment she has no other recourse than to lash out.
If you can take her and work with her at least 15 minutes a day without distractions to get her to at least learn to 'trust' you, she will not feel so rejected and alone.
I really am concerned for her, she needs something done with her now before she gets any older.

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#674976 - 11/15/08 07:40 PM Re: a really mean female..help [Re: LSardou]
jacqui
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i know, i dont want to give up on her so im going to spend alone time with her everyday.. i will keep you guys posted..

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#675004 - 11/15/08 08:45 PM Re: a really mean female..help [Re: ]
suggiemom1980 Offline
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Registered: 03/05/07
Posts: 13746
Loc: Vincennes, IN, USA
I had BamBam 15 months before I could reach into the cage without drawing back blood. Every time I put my hand in the cage, I would have a treat in my hand for him. I used a LOT of first aid cream! LOL!
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#675010 - 11/15/08 08:53 PM Re: a really mean female..help [Re: suggiemom1980]
7glider7
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Have you been doing bonding during the day AND tent time at night?

for my really mean and crabby glider, he didn't cool it until he got to know me running around our glider-proofed bathroom at night.

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#675693 - 11/17/08 05:23 AM Re: a really mean female..help [Re: ]
Xfilefan Offline
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Registered: 02/22/03
Posts: 8899
Loc: Jacksonville, FL
It sounds like you have one or the other out-do you spend time with them both together at the same time? Sometimes it's stressful for them to be apart for separate play/bonding time with humans when they're close to each other and they can react negatively-I have a pair I can't really separate for play/bonding or the one girl (2 girl pair) gets VERY upset with me, and she may lash out at the other, or at me-it can even involve jealousy issues (you got out and I didn't)-they don't recognize that they get out too, just that the other did without them (being left)-and animals don't really have a concept of 'temporary' or 'later' like we do. Some gliders more than others. Maybe spending more time with them as a pair could help?
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