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#685086 - 12/03/08 01:13 PM Forever in my Heart - Popeye
GliderLove Offline
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Popeye has been on the HPW diet for almost a year now. He started showing some signs of swelling in his abdomen last nite and it really seemed to bloat up with in 1 hour. I rushed him to the vet who did an xray and it shows his bladder is pretty enlarged with no signs of any obstructions any where. She told me it could possibly be a growth that they might not be able to see on xray?? How is that possible? She is goig to call me after her dental work to consider an ultra sound. He does have a UTI and I found it strange because he showed NO symptoms of having one so this could have been going on for a while...I thought this was either a intestinal blockage or a tumor or something. It's been a horrible nite because I did not think he would make it thru the nite.

He's on Baytril, and torb. He is in a e-collar becuase it looks like he started to sm part of his tail, or maybe his wifey did while really over grooming him last nite. She just knows something is not right. I'm thinking this could possibly be bloat, but he has not had any gassy foods. I need help. My eyes hurt from crying, I just can't lose him, but I don't want him to suffer either. The vet thinks I should see how it goes till Fri nite, and if no improvment, I should consider letting him go. This hurts so bad and I have never had an illness like this. Any idea's?

Oh, I tried luke warm compress's on his belly and tried to stimulate him. He was urinating very little last nite, and was pretty thristy. He also ate well??? I did get him to go today around 11 am and he did urinate a good amount and his stomach did not seem so hard, but was still enlarged. She said she saw no crystals in the urine either? She's not the "most educated" glider vet but is very eager to help and learn. She is going to be calling Dr.Tristan and consulting with him which makes me feel a bit better. I'm crushed here...I just CAN'T lose him!!! frown


Edited by LSardou (12/12/08 01:17 PM)
Edit Reason: changed title
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#685092 - 12/03/08 01:19 PM Re: I NEED HELP!!! [Re: GliderLove]
sugarlope Offline
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I'm so sorry Cindy. I do know that not all tumors will show up in x-ray (had that happen with a dog once). Please let us know what Dr. Tristan says, I hope you find something to help him. I'll be thinking of, and praying for you both today. hug2
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#685094 - 12/03/08 01:21 PM Re: I NEED HELP!!! [Re: sugarlope]
GliderLove Offline
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Loc: SE Minnesota..
Ok, See when she told me that I was a bit confused and almost doubted her. I thought how could she not see it?

If it is "bloat" what is the cure for it?
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#685109 - 12/03/08 01:43 PM Re: I NEED HELP!!! [Re: GliderLove]
Jackie_Chans_Mom Offline
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Cindy - is he able to urinate without you stimulating him? How much does he urinate? When you say his bladder was enlarged, was it also FULL? Was she able to pull urine directly out of his bladder (via a needle) and test it, or did she only test the urine that came from him peeing? The reason I ask is cause with Apollo, we were able to test both and see that he had a BLADDER infection, but no UTI.

This reminds me very much of Apollo. I REALLY hope this is a very different sort of situation. You can call me any time 806-274-9177
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#685117 - 12/03/08 01:52 PM Re: I NEED HELP!!! [Re: Jackie_Chans_Mom]
sugarlope Offline
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The way they get many tumors to 'light up' in humans is by injecting special contrast (some of which is radio-active) that attaches to different kinds of tumor cells. Unless it is really big (and sometimes even then) they can't always see tumors/cancer in humans either.

X-rays (and CT scans, which are a type of x-ray, from my understanding) are more limited than people realize.

(My dad was trying to explain it to me more thouroughly, sorry it lost something in the translation from him to me to you crazy ). He used to research bone agents (some of the radioactive agents that help 'light up' the cancer cells).


Edited by sugarlope (12/03/08 01:52 PM)
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#685400 - 12/03/08 07:51 PM Re: I NEED HELP!!! [Re: sugarlope]
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I hope he is doing better this evening for you honey. Let me know if you need to talk. Meeko sends love to his daddy!
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#686442 - 12/05/08 10:13 AM Re: I NEED HELP!!! [Re: cinnamonstix]
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hug2 hug2 hug2 hug2
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#686464 - 12/05/08 10:53 AM Re: I NEED HELP!!! [Re: Usha77]
Jackie_Chans_Mom Offline
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Loc: Texas
I have spoken with Cindy several times today. Please keep her and Popeye in your prayers. Hopefully she will have time to come on later and update. I'm not sure what all is going on right now, but she is on her way to the vet. They could use some prayers now.
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#686468 - 12/05/08 10:58 AM Re: I NEED HELP!!! [Re: Jackie_Chans_Mom]
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Hugs and prayers going her way!
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#686478 - 12/05/08 11:08 AM Re: I NEED HELP!!! [Re: Suggiegramma]
ValkyrieMome Offline
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Loc: Denton, TX
Oh, darn. Thanks, Val - I'm sending much love and good thoughts to you Cindy, and to Popeye.
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Mom to Valhalla; 6 cats; 1 macaw; 2 hedgehogs;
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#686491 - 12/05/08 11:27 AM Re: I NEED HELP!!! [Re: ValkyrieMome]
LSardou Offline
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Cindy, Keeping Popeye in my thoughts and prayers today. hug2

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#686500 - 12/05/08 11:36 AM Re: I NEED HELP!!! [Re: LSardou]
Usha77 Offline
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You know you and Popeye are in my prayers, Cindy. hug2
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#686539 - 12/05/08 01:05 PM Re: I NEED HELP!!! [Re: Usha77]
Usha77 Offline
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I just got off the phone with Cindy, she wanted me to give you all an update. Popeye has improved a little, the swelling seems to have gone down about 50%. Cindy has been in contact with Val a lot today and Val's vet, Dr. Walsh, will be working with Cindy's vet to come up with some ideas and ways to help Popeye. Cindy said that she was able to squeeze Popeye's tummy a little and enough urine came out to have soaked a paper towel. It sounds like the vets are thinking of catheterizing him. Cindy will hopefully be on later with more updates and x-rays, I think. Keep those good thoughts and prayers coming!
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#687029 - 12/06/08 12:49 PM Re: I NEED HELP!!! [Re: Usha77]
GliderLove Offline
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Registered: 06/08/06
Posts: 4801
Loc: SE Minnesota..
Thank you for all the well wishes.(HUGS) Popeye is still hanging in there but not much has changed. He is on Metacam, baytril, torb, and Synotpic (sp?) not sure if that's what it is but it's close. Val, your a life saver and my life line at the moment, thank you again! Brenda, thank you for relaying for me as well. The only way he can pee is if he has some pressure to his abdomen but he looks like he is pregnant with triplets. It's so very hard to see him this way. I pray the meds work over the weekend, the next stp is on Mon. is too to put him under and do a cath. I'm just not ready to let him go yet. So prayers are appreciated!!

Last nite my 4 yr old was able to open a bottle of liquid tylenol, she had a tylenol over dose which caused me to rush her an hour and half away were they could test the level and antidote her if neccesarry, she was 2 tsp away from needing and they said she should be fine, thank god!! I drove in a blizzard alone, (MY WORST FEAR!!)

I'll try to get on, but life is crazy! Thanks all for your help, I love you guys!!
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Mom to
Jae, Ashton, Briannah, Nevaeh & Addy

& all my fuzzies!
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#687034 - 12/06/08 12:54 PM Re: I NEED HELP!!! [Re: GliderLove]
Usha77 Offline
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hug2 Oh, honey! I'm so sorry for all you're going through - so glad your daughter is okay!!
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#687040 - 12/06/08 01:07 PM Re: I NEED HELP!!! [Re: Usha77]
USMom Offline
Serious Glideritis

Registered: 05/11/05
Posts: 7356
Loc: Austin, TX
Well then. That explains why you didn't answer when I called! I have been thinking about you and worrying about your boy. Let me know how it's going, or if you need something. I am here for ya!
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#688900 - 12/09/08 02:31 PM Re: I NEED HELP!!! [Re: USMom]
GliderLove Offline
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Registered: 06/08/06
Posts: 4801
Loc: SE Minnesota..
Wheew...This has been a tough week, that's for sure. crazy
Today Popeye was put under and cathed. She drained almost 40 cc's of urine from his bladder. We did not do the permanent cath because we were hoping with success with this procedure. With in a few hours his bladder has begin to fill and extend again cry He is only on the baytril, and torb and Synotic drops now. He appears to be healthy and happy when his bladder is not so huge...So, she said I could keep him on the meds for awhile still and keep draingin his bladder by applying the pressure to his abdomen, which makes him go a WHOLE lot, or discuss the permanent cath. She also discussed other routes such as exploratory surgery, and of course putting him down.

She thinks that his age has alot against him in performing a surgery like this and then doing the repair when something was found, and that is was very possible to lose him doing it. Val, did Apollo ever get the permanent cath. in? I'm thinking I would rather go that route,but I worry about infection? I need advice, I'm so tired and so stressed I'm worried I'll make the wrong choice.

Any advice her is surely appreciated.

And yes, my little Briannah..she is all well and into every thing, but she sure did scare me to death! shakehead
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& all my fuzzies!
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#688906 - 12/09/08 02:39 PM Re: I NEED HELP!!! [Re: GliderLove]
GliderLove Offline
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Loc: SE Minnesota..
Time for my baby's meds... I'll be back in a few smile
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& all my fuzzies!
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#688909 - 12/09/08 02:40 PM Re: I NEED HELP!!! [Re: GliderLove]
LSardou Offline
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Loc: Kansas
Cindy, You've had more than your share of problems these past few weeks. I am so sorry to hear this prognosis about Popeye. I really don't know what to tell you other than follow your heart. I know it's tough one way or the other and the risks outweigh the positive at this point.
I know you don't want to put Popeye through more stress, surgery, and all the uncertain possibilities about all of this and can totally understand your confusion.
The best thing to do right now is continue with the suggested care, let go in your mind the worries for a little while to give yourself some relief from the stress. Your heart will give you the next step for Popeye.
If you need to talk you know you can always call me.
Many hugs and prayers. hug2

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#688941 - 12/09/08 03:25 PM Re: I NEED HELP!!! [Re: LSardou]
Usha77 Offline
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hug2 hug2 hug2 hug2 Still praying for you and your boy, hon!
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#688951 - 12/09/08 03:37 PM Re: I NEED HELP!!! [Re: Usha77]
flutterbye Offline
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Registered: 11/02/08
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Cindy,

I am hoping that Popeye will start responding to the meds and get better quickly. Think positive and stay strong.

shelly


Edited by flutterbye (12/09/08 03:38 PM)
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#688987 - 12/09/08 04:08 PM Re: I NEED HELP!!! [Re: GliderLove]
Jackie_Chans_Mom Offline
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Registered: 05/01/07
Posts: 2511
Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: GliderLove
Val, did Apollo ever get the permanent cath. in?


No, he did not. He passed just before his appointment to have that done.

I'm still praying for you and Popeye.
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#688998 - 12/09/08 04:17 PM Re: I NEED HELP!!! [Re: Jackie_Chans_Mom]
ValkyrieMome Offline
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Registered: 01/13/07
Posts: 10983
Loc: Denton, TX
Cindy -

What a lot you are going through!

Let me know if there's anything you need at all. Sending good thoughts!
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Mom to Valhalla; 6 cats; 1 macaw; 2 hedgehogs;
and very many great gliders!

(plus the 2 skin kids)
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#689048 - 12/09/08 05:44 PM Re: I NEED HELP!!! [Re: GliderLove]
ozzi Offline
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Loc: Sedona, AZ
Sending Prayers to you and Popeye hug2

Glad Briannah is OK.

You need a break for sure....

Pat
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#690821 - 12/12/08 10:07 AM Re: I NEED HELP!!! [Re: ozzi]
GliderLove Offline
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Registered: 06/08/06
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Loc: SE Minnesota..
My hearts breaks this morning. I thought Popeye was doing so much better, the swelling was down alot, he was active, peeing a whole bunch and I thought we were on the road to recovery. I got up this morning and check on him and his temp is cool,he is VERY bloated and can not urinate at all. I have decided not to put him thru surgery, and I'm not sure if cathing him will even work other then a quick fix.

My heart hurts so bad, I don't want to let go but I love him so much I can not let him suffer because of my pain. I knew this would be hard but god, the pain is almost unbearable. cry I appreciate all your prayers and well wishes. hug2 Popeye is my first adult glider I will have ever been losing in 13 years of owning gliders. I feel as I am losing a child here. It's so hard...
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#690823 - 12/12/08 10:09 AM Re: I NEED HELP!!! [Re: GliderLove]
ORsuggiemomma Offline
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OMG I am SO SORRY you are going through this. my prayers and thoughts are with you cry
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#690835 - 12/12/08 10:23 AM Re: I NEED HELP!!! [Re: GliderLove]
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#690889 - 12/12/08 12:18 PM Forever in my heart..
GliderLove Offline
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Registered: 06/08/06
Posts: 4801
Loc: SE Minnesota..
I had to make the choice to end Popeye's suffering. My heart is so broken and I feel so much pain of his passing. Nobody tells you how bad it will hurt when they leave you. That last kiss and I love you takes your breath away.

Popeye, I will forever love and miss you. I know your happiness and suffering will never end over the rainbow bridge now. cry You are so dearly missed already. heart I LOVE YOU heart It's so hard to type thru tears..

Thank you every one who prayed for Popeye, and helped me out thru this difficult time. Especially you Val, you kept my spirits up and I thank you from the bottom of my heart.
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Mom to
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& all my fuzzies!
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#690894 - 12/12/08 12:26 PM Re: Forever in my heart.. [Re: GliderLove]
prettyinpink
Unregistered


OMG, I'm so sorry! cry

R.I.P sweet Popeye.

Hugs for you both.. hug2

I'm so sorry for your loss..

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#690896 - 12/12/08 12:30 PM Re: Forever in my heart.. [Re: ]
Usha77 Offline
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hug2 hug2 hug2 I am so sorry, Cindy. He knew you loved him and did everything you possibly could for him. cry I am just so sorry, hon. hug2 hug2
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