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#687719 - 12/07/08 07:23 PM Need advice quickly!
Suggiegramma Offline
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Registered: 01/08/08
Posts: 1520
Loc: St. Charles, Missouri
My platinum mosaic Florianna has started to chew underneath her arm. The fur is gone and it looks like she may have gone down into the muscle a little bit. It's about the size of a dime.

Now here's the question...I already have her in an e-collar and separated from her cage mates. My er vet knows absolutely nothing about gliders...

Should I go ahead and bring her to the er or wait till morning for my regular vet to open. I didn't know if she might need pain meds or not. She has not been crabby and does not seem to be trying to get at the wound.

By the way, how long before she stops trying to get out of the e-collar? It's been about 15 minutes and she's still going strong!
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#687728 - 12/07/08 07:37 PM Re: Need advice quickly! [Re: Suggiegramma]
queenduck Offline
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Registered: 03/06/02
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Loc: Kansas
She won't give up soon on the ecollar. Go to the vet, get pain meds, see your real vet tomorrow.
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#687729 - 12/07/08 07:37 PM Re: Need advice quickly! [Re: Suggiegramma]
Jackie_Chans_Mom Offline
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Virginia

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She might fight the collar for hours. I had one fight it for 3 weeks. frown

Are you sure you are seeing muscle?
Are you sure she did it to herself?

She really should have some pain meds today.
And probably a topical to keep infection from setting in. - even neosporin with pain releiver can be used since she is in e-collar.

... call me if you can - or if you are not already on with someone else.


Edited by Jackie_Chans_Mom (12/07/08 07:39 PM)
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#687730 - 12/07/08 07:38 PM Re: Need advice quickly! [Re: Suggiegramma]
Lynsie Offline
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Registered: 02/07/05
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Loc: Quincy, IL 62305
My advice would be to wait until morning to take her to her normal vet. There really isn't anything that the ER vet is going to be able to do for her.

As for the e-collar, she'll wear herself out soon. I know it's a hard thing to watch but it's for the best.
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#687731 - 12/07/08 07:42 PM Re: Need advice quickly! [Re: Lynsie]
ORsuggiemomma Offline
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Registered: 03/18/08
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personally I would go to the EVET NOW! I wouldn't wait, because it could be life or death. and it is NOT true that the E-vet can't do anything. I would go, Good luck with your baby.
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#687737 - 12/07/08 07:49 PM Re: Need advice quickly! [Re: ORsuggiemomma]
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Virginia is on her way to the e-vet. Closer inspection of the wound looks like it may just be superficial and not into the muscle, but Virginia is not taking any chances. She will get it cleaned and some meds for her and then see her regular vet in the morning and discuss whether it should be closed or not. She will get a full physical examination at that time.

Florianna has already gotten out of the e-collar once, so Virginia looks to have a long night ahead of her. Keep them in your prayers.
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#687739 - 12/07/08 07:50 PM Re: Need advice quickly! [Re: ORsuggiemomma]
CritterHill Offline
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Registered: 04/11/03
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hug2 hug2 Hopefully you are on the way to the vet or on the phone with Val!

Edited to add.

Thanks for the update Val.


Edited by CritterHill (12/07/08 07:51 PM)
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#687741 - 12/07/08 07:50 PM Re: Need advice quickly! [Re: Jackie_Chans_Mom]
ORsuggiemomma Offline
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I will be keeping them both in my prayers, I am SO glad she decided to get to the E-vet! Keep us updated if you can laugh
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#687742 - 12/07/08 07:51 PM Re: Need advice quickly! [Re: CritterHill]
Lynsie Offline
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Registered: 02/07/05
Posts: 8321
Loc: Quincy, IL 62305
Virginia, if you need help just call me and I'll be there in a flash!
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#687744 - 12/07/08 07:54 PM Re: Need advice quickly! [Re: Jackie_Chans_Mom]
Suggiegramma Offline
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Registered: 01/08/08
Posts: 1520
Loc: St. Charles, Missouri
Heading to the ER now. Will update as soon as I get back.

Thanks everybody!
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Virginia

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Emily,Ariana,Symphony,Mozart,Smeegle,Cocoa,Hershey,Tippy,
Hollister,Anastasia,Buffy,Tawny,Stormy,Aurora,Chance,Karma,
Kristoff,Ruby.



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#687753 - 12/07/08 08:08 PM Re: Need advice quickly! [Re: Suggiegramma]
BeckiT Offline
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Registered: 09/29/06
Posts: 16083
Loc: Manitowoc, WI
hope she's all better soon hug2
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#687754 - 12/07/08 08:10 PM Re: Need advice quickly! [Re: BeckiT]
sandbat Offline
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Registered: 08/27/08
Posts: 633
Loc: Dallas, TX
Good luck, for both of you!

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#687756 - 12/07/08 08:14 PM Re: Need advice quickly! [Re: sandbat]
tammyangel Offline
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Registered: 03/07/05
Posts: 2493
Loc: Missouri
Prayers and huggs going out to you both.
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#687782 - 12/07/08 08:47 PM Re: Need advice quickly! [Re: tammyangel]
SugareeErin Offline
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Registered: 01/21/08
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Loc: Lisle, Illinois
hug2 hug2 hug2 Oh no Virginia! I am so sorry to hear this is happening frown Prayers on the way for you and Florianna! Poor girl, I hope the e vet can help her! hug2 hug2 hug2
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#687783 - 12/07/08 08:48 PM Re: Need advice quickly! [Re: tammyangel]
prettyinpink
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Hope everything is ok! hug2

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#687790 - 12/07/08 09:10 PM Re: Need advice quickly! [Re: ]
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hug2 our thoughts are with you hug2
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#687791 - 12/07/08 09:17 PM Re: Need advice quickly! [Re: tbull]
ValkyrieMome Offline
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Registered: 01/13/07
Posts: 10983
Loc: Denton, TX
Sending good thoughts!
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#687807 - 12/07/08 10:03 PM Re: Need advice quickly! [Re: ValkyrieMome]
7glider7
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hug2

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#687827 - 12/07/08 10:51 PM Re: Need advice quickly! [Re: ]
Suggiegramma Offline
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Registered: 01/08/08
Posts: 1520
Loc: St. Charles, Missouri
Just got back. They gave her Torb fir the pain and Sulpha Trim in case infection sets in. The vet said it looks more like a laceration, not an overgrooming or self-mutilation, so she'll probably have to be sewn up by Dr. King in the morning.

So now I'm off to tear the cage apart to make sure there's nothing anyone else can get cut on! (Assuming that's what it is).

I don't have the e-collar on her right now, she's laying in my lap asleep. I think the Torb knocked her out!

Thanks for everybody's help, support, hugs, thoughts and prayers. I needed them! I had just gotten back from the HUMAN Emergency Room, I had another blasted migraine and had to be treated there to get rid of it. Then this happened! I guess when it rains, it pours, huh?
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#687829 - 12/07/08 10:58 PM Re: Need advice quickly! [Re: Suggiegramma]
glidernanny
Unregistered


hope the both of u r getting some pain relief now. hope the torb helps the 2 of u have a peaceful rest of the night and good luck at the vet in the morning.

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#687859 - 12/07/08 11:52 PM Re: Need advice quickly! [Re: ]
LSardou Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Registered: 03/01/06
Posts: 21060
Loc: Kansas
Virginia, I just now came on and saw this. I hope that things have settled down and your little one is going to be alright. Sending you tons of hugs and prayers. If you need anything please don't hesitate to call me.
hug2

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#687872 - 12/08/08 12:48 AM Re: Need advice quickly! [Re: LSardou]
Suggiegramma Offline
Glider Slave

Registered: 01/08/08
Posts: 1520
Loc: St. Charles, Missouri
She's eating pretty well. I have her in my lap and I gave her some mealies in a cup so she could pick which ones she wanted. LOL

After having quite a few mealies, she fell asleep with her head hanging over the cup with two mealies still in her hand. roflmao roflmao
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Virginia

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Sachi,Miuccia,Mignon,Cosette,Blaise,Florianna,Fabio,
Abbi,Fletcher,Eshton,Hansel,Gretel,Sahara,Parker,SugarBear,
Emily,Ariana,Symphony,Mozart,Smeegle,Cocoa,Hershey,Tippy,
Hollister,Anastasia,Buffy,Tawny,Stormy,Aurora,Chance,Karma,
Kristoff,Ruby.



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#687940 - 12/08/08 07:52 AM Re: Need advice quickly! [Re: Suggiegramma]
Suggiegramma Offline
Glider Slave

Registered: 01/08/08
Posts: 1520
Loc: St. Charles, Missouri
Well....I didn't have the heart to put the e-collar back on her after she got it off so I stayed up all night with her in my lap. She slept well and seems to be doing pretty good. Waiting for 9:00 for Dr. King to open up...

Thanks Linda, I appreciate it!
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Virginia

Suggies
Sachi,Miuccia,Mignon,Cosette,Blaise,Florianna,Fabio,
Abbi,Fletcher,Eshton,Hansel,Gretel,Sahara,Parker,SugarBear,
Emily,Ariana,Symphony,Mozart,Smeegle,Cocoa,Hershey,Tippy,
Hollister,Anastasia,Buffy,Tawny,Stormy,Aurora,Chance,Karma,
Kristoff,Ruby.



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#687984 - 12/08/08 09:57 AM Re: Need advice quickly! [Re: Suggiegramma]
Dalysugar Offline
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Registered: 10/16/08
Posts: 268
Loc: Kansas
I so hope that all is well!
Lots of prayers for you both!
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#687990 - 12/08/08 10:07 AM Re: Need advice quickly! [Re: Dalysugar]
ValkyrieMome Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Registered: 01/13/07
Posts: 10983
Loc: Denton, TX
Checking for an update ... let us know!
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"Animals can communicate quite well. And they do. And generally speaking, they are ignored." Alice Walker


Mom to Valhalla; 6 cats; 1 macaw; 2 hedgehogs;
and very many great gliders!

(plus the 2 skin kids)
valkyriegliders.com

Kyrie, nothing will ever fill the hole you left in my heart.

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#688253 - 12/08/08 04:37 PM Re: Need advice quickly! [Re: ValkyrieMome]
sugarlope Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Registered: 03/28/02
Posts: 19735
Loc: in my happy place
Virginia, I'm so sorry. hug2 I hope she heals up for you quickly. Sending lots of hugs your way. hug2 hug2 hug2
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Maia & Squish
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#689221 - 12/09/08 10:55 PM Re: Need advice quickly! [Re: sugarlope]
Bourbon Offline
Serious Glideritis

Registered: 04/01/99
Posts: 5333
Loc: Bee-Bopping round SnakePit USA
quick update. she is doing real well she is still on the sulfa trim, and she had 6 stiches put in, Virginia, takes the collar off of her so she can eat at night and lets her have her special treats. keep the prayers coming, and we all hope for the best..
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#689234 - 12/09/08 11:05 PM Re: Need advice quickly! [Re: Bourbon]
Karin Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Registered: 09/06/01
Posts: 11583
Loc: Sycamore Illinois
Good luck Virginia, stay strong and get some rest when you can! Many well wishes for your baby!!!

Karin
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#689289 - 12/10/08 12:48 AM Re: Need advice quickly! [Re: Karin]
SugarBlossoms Offline
Serious Glideritis

Registered: 02/23/06
Posts: 5830
Loc: USA
Prayers sent for her to heal fast!

You can use cotton balls to go over the cage and toys with to see if it snags on anything. On an iron cage, a nail file works great to get rid of a "spur".
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My precious loves that left to quickly, Peanut, Katie
Isabella, Kiwi, Bonnie and Monroe.

Spread your wings and glide free of pain,
Until the day I see you again.

God speed my precious angels. I love you. Mama.

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#689301 - 12/10/08 01:02 AM Re: Need advice quickly! [Re: SugarBlossoms]
Suggiegramma Offline
Glider Slave

Registered: 01/08/08
Posts: 1520
Loc: St. Charles, Missouri
I'm leaving for Florida on Thursday to deliver Mowgli to Meghan (Oakley) and I've decided I'm going to take her with me. I can't bear to leave her while she's not feeling good.

I haven't been able to find ANYTHING in their cage to cause something like this.

Thanks for updating everyone Bourbon, I really appreciate it. I hate to let her out of my sight and it's hard to get on the computer.
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Virginia

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