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#69998 - 11/25/05 09:27 PM Operant Conditioning
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I have searched here and a few other sites regarding using operant conditioning with Gliders; I haven't found much. I do know from being around the animal training buisiness (My X trains dolphins and sea lions), that just about anything can be trained using this technique. Any personal trails from the folks here? Any suggestions? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thanx.gif" alt="" />

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#69999 - 11/25/05 09:36 PM Re: Operant Conditioning [Re: ]
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Conditioning,,,,, lol…. We are the ones that are conditioned / trained…. From my experience… gliders are very intelligent… I would surmise that with enough time some one could be conditioned… I just wonder witch one it would be... lol….
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#70000 - 11/25/05 11:00 PM Re: Operant Conditioning [Re: ]
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If memory serves me right, examples of operant conditioning with my suggies would be,during bonding phase,1)giving a yogurt drop when my glider approaches me and thereby reinforcing this wanted behavior, 2)putting honey on tip of finger before placing in bonding pouch to replace a nip on the finger with a lick on the finger, etc. Is this what you mean?

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#70001 - 11/26/05 09:58 AM Re: Operant Conditioning [Re: ]
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If memory serves me right, examples of operant conditioning with my suggies would be,during bonding phase,1)giving a yogurt drop when my glider approaches me and thereby reinforcing this wanted behavior, 2)putting honey on tip of finger before placing in bonding pouch to replace a nip on the finger with a lick on the finger, etc. Is this what you mean?

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Yeah, thats the idea. I was wondering if anyone took it a little bit farther, simple behaviors like gliding to us, (I saw that someone had done this), making noises on command, basicaly on most animals you can get them to reproduce any natural behavior on demand. Also this would be a good way to train any husbandry behavior if needed. Do we need to train husbandry/ Like do we need to be able to inspect teeth or wouldn't this be good for conditioning them to accept nail trimming? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thinkerg.gif" alt="" />

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#70002 - 11/26/05 10:04 AM Re: Operant Conditioning [Re: ]
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Here is a pretty good link for those that want to look into this type of training:
http://www.wagntrain.com/OC/#Operant

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#70003 - 11/26/05 10:40 AM Re: Operant Conditioning [Re: ]
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It does work, I have used it with a few of my gliders that are more bonded. A good example would be with Gabriel. Gabriel was rejected at 21 days out of pouch, he is my baby and loves being with me. He went through a terrible bitting phase, not nipping but biting like 20 times in a 10 second period where I cound't get him to relase his teeth. I knew I couldn't just not hold him so I decided that he would still come out, (plus he couldn't know I was scared of him or his bites) I would reward good behavior and I would do what he hated most when he did bite, put him in time out in his cage. I was very uneasy when I took him out at first but after putting him in his cage quite a few times the biting stopped completley, when he is good he gets more treats. He is now almost 3 years old and is very sweet, and hasn't bitten me in well over a year. I will say that you must give the reward or punshiment quickly and repeatedly. I also have thought about clicker training, but I reall don't have the time with this many to care for and don't think I could be as consitant as I would need to. I always encourage rewards and gentle no's. Gliders get scared easily sometimes and earning thier trust back is not easy.
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#70004 - 11/26/05 12:56 PM Re: Operant Conditioning [Re: ]
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Very good example, thank you! Clickers are just for "bridging" and you can just use the same words over and over like "good" or "hurray" as a bridge too. Time outs are a great example for acceptable "Negative Punishment (P-) " <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yelclap.gif" alt="" /> Another example would be: The dolphin trainer walks away with the fish bucket when the dolphin acts aggressive.

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