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#7062 - 05/31/03 09:30 PM Pet store protocol??
Anonymous
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So, in addition to the saga of Henry (I've named the glider at the pet store, just for my own intents and purposes), I'm now also getting suckered into the saga of Baby, a male joey at the same pet store.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, the girl behind the counter said they NEVER take out the babies (who are near the front of the store in a locked cage) unless someone is ready to buy one. Then today I asked the guy about Baby, the only one left...he told me Baby has been there for 2-3 weeks now!!! POOR GUY!!

So here's my question: should store workers be handling (i.e., carrying around in a bonding pouch) the joeys?? I gave him that advice, as both times I've persuaded someone to lift the cloth that he's hiding under (he doesn't have a pouch) he starts crabbing and trying to hide again. He bites too. Today I told one of the workers that I thought someone should be holding the joey everyday so he gets socialized and gets used to human interaction. The guy said they were instructed not to hold the babies or they would "bond to us."

I really have no idea who's right in this situation...but one thing's for sure--whoever buys that little guy is going to be in for months of work! (maybe not...who knows)

Input? I want to be more educated so I don't go harrassing the poor pet store people with misinformation (and at the same time, I know about 10 times as much as some of them do about gliders, so I try to slip in a little bit of knowledge here and there).

thank y'all so much!!

Crystal <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />
and Punka <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/littleglider.gif" alt="" />

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#7063 - 05/31/03 09:39 PM Re: Pet store protocol?? [Re: ]
Sugar_Mama Offline
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Registered: 05/26/03
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Loc: Central FL
Hearing this kind of thing makes me so sad for the poor little suggies in pet stores. I wish I could buy them all. I would think that any interaction has to be better than none at all. Even if he was to bond to someone only to be sold, it's gotta be better than thinking human hands are the enemy, right? I'm no expert, though. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nixweiss.gif" alt="" />I'll be interested to see what others who know more about this type of thing have to say.
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Rest peacefully until I see you at the bridge, Sweet Lillian. gangel Mommy, Daddy, and brother Philip miss you terribly.

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#7064 - 05/31/03 10:21 PM Re: Pet store protocol?? [Re: ]
Anonymous
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By purchasing from a pet store you are only moving the merchandise off of their shelf and encouraging them to purchase more gliders. Try to educate the storeowner. Donate some pouches. Offer to work with the owner and tell him that tame babies would make a more desirable pet. Give him books and persuade him to post here to get additional help. Try and explain to him the needs of the sugar gliders and consequences if those needs are not met. I.e. poor health, bad temperament, fewer sales ect... If money is all the owner is after then you must convince him that he can make more if he exercises proper care and handling techniques. Also make sure they are being fed a proper diet and explain to him what that is. You will not change a pet storeowner by cursing and yelling or by buying up his entire stock of product. Nothing can be accomplished if nothing is done. Be nice, talk in a respectful tone and calmly and persistently try to inform him, otherwise he will shut you out and continue his practices and end up not using appropriate husbandry techniques appropriate for this species. Handling a joey and allowing it to bond to you will only make it easier for it to bond to another person; the trick is not to let it bond to just one person but to bond with people in general. Let the owner know that letting the glider joeys bond with his entire staff, by letting his staff feed care and handle the joey will make the joey easier for it to bond to other people, less crabby and more desirable. However he should not let every person that walks in the store handle it either they could end up transmitting a parasite, disease, or injuring the glider, not to mention that the loss of sleep can be detrimental to his health.

Ushuaia

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#7065 - 05/31/03 10:37 PM Re: Pet store protocol?? [Re: ]
Sugar_Mama Offline
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yelclap.gif" alt="" />Well said Ushuaia! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yelclap.gif" alt="" /> When I said I wish I could buy them all, I just meant that I wish I could take them out of the situation they are in. I would never buy an animal from a pet shop. Like you said, that only contributes to the problem and the pet store's pocket book. They all say they don't use mills and their animals are cared for properly, but someone has to be keeping those mills in business. Just wanted to clear that up...I should have done a better job at wording my reply.
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#7066 - 05/31/03 10:44 PM Re: Pet store protocol?? [Re: ]
Anonymous
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On a related note...how do you try to convince them to use a different diet if they sell the staple food they're feeding?!? That, obviously, is the case here. We started our first glider on "Glider Grub" which is VERY hard pelleted food. On their website they even go so far as to say that this is THE one and only food the glider needs to subsist happily and healthily. HERE is their "Sugar glider info page." It's pretty atrocious, IMHO.

How does one politely and tactfully do ANY good in a situation like this? It literally breaks my heart to go into the store and see the same situation week after week. One of the workers even has gliders, and HE FEEDS THEM BML!!! Why, then, does this store continue to champion a bad diet and bad husbandry???

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> AURGHHHH! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

Any more helpful thoughts and suggestions will be much appreciated...as I ruminate over a prudent course of action. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

thanks,
Crystal <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nixweiss.gif" alt="" />

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#7067 - 05/31/03 11:12 PM Re: Pet store protocol?? [Re: ]
Anonymous
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OMG have you read their website?????
These are quotes from their site...

"Some people prefer a male or female glider for pets, and many people find that a neutered male is the best of both worlds. Our experience is that males get slightly larger, you can "toss" them farther, but that either sex or Eunich can make a fantastic pet! We will accommodate your preferences."
"Personally, I think the coolest thing is the way they glide. I "toss" Precious, our store pet, about thirty feet to another person. Like a living paper airplane, she just glides on over! It is very fun."

"Finally, there's the food. Our kit contains a supply of Nutri-Glider, a complete nutrition for gliders of all ages. It has raised over 16 generations of sugar gliders, from babies to adulthood. Of course, it's fun to supplement with fruits and nuts, vegetables, raisins, dried apricots, honey, yogurt, pizza crust, etc. Basically, if it's healthy for you, it's good for them"

Okay, I might not be a Sugar Glider expert, but "toss" your glider around?? Are you supposed to throw your glider in the air?? I have never heard of this, but if that is allowed, please let me know. I would never toss my gliders in the air, but if its a "safe" thing to do, then maybe that quote wouldnt sound so stupid to me.

And the second one?????? Pizza crust??? Whatever is good for us is good for them?? I think we really need to report this pet store because obviously it knows close to nothing about gliders and how they are supposed to be taken care of. They also recommmend their cage that is only 22 inches high.. that is less than 2 feet. That is crazy! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shakehead.gif" alt="" />

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#7068 - 05/31/03 11:19 PM Re: Pet store protocol?? [Re: ]
Anonymous
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Are they USDA Licenced? If you want to pitition your local senators and try to get a law passed that mandates minnimum care requirements for gliders that would make a big difference. As for what they are feeding you cannot regulate that. Look up studies done on gliders and offer him vet testimonies proclaiming that dry diets cause lumpy jaw. If all that fails and he is still not listening to you then talk to a local animal rights group. Take and add out in the paper urgin him to humainly treat and feed his animals properly. But only if nothing is done. Make your case public. He will either change or have to contend with bad press, which could put him out of bussiness.

Ushuaia

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#7069 - 06/01/03 02:29 AM Re: Pet store protocol?? [Re: ]
Anonymous
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The glider tossing has been brought up here before, I believe it concerned that exact same store in Texas. I can't imagine throwing my glider. It must be terrifying for the poor thing. I beleive they do it to show customers how gliders fly. Either way it's a cruel thing to do. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worried2.gif" alt="" />

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#7070 - 06/01/03 06:58 AM Re: Pet store protocol?? [Re: lillysmomma]
Anonymous
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If they are going to continue using the hard pelleted diet, bring in some apple juice and ask them to please soak it. They have to have a fridge in there somewhere and you can bring in a big thing of it. Erwin was on hard pelleted cat food and bird seed when I got him and would not budge to anything else b/c he was so used to it so I had to used soaked food for awhile. There is a breeder here in Ohio not far from me apparently who I have been trying to email forever b/c I can't find him in the phone book and I can't find his ad for the life of me anymore but he basically says gliders only need cat food and don't need fruits and veggies and whoever said that is dumb. lol....

I would think that bonding would be better than no bonding also.. .

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#7071 - 06/01/03 07:38 PM Re: Pet store protocol?? [Re: ]
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I used to work in a pet store a few years back, and we were encouragded to handle our animals every day as well as not sell to a person if we felt they could not be responsible for the pet of thier liking. Unfortunatly most pet stores arent like that...But it sounds like it is a small place, if he isnt treating the animals properly his reputation is at stake and he will go under...Which is probably better for the animals....Hand out flyers with the conditions the animals are in.. I bet he is not feeding any of his pets properly if he isnt tsking proper care of the sg... By all mean put him out of business if necessary, contact the USDA or humanaine society about it... But please do something... It places like that that give other good pet stores a bad name!!!!!!!!!!!

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#7072 - 06/01/03 08:38 PM Re: Pet store protocol?? [Re: ]
Anonymous
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It's almost impossible to control the conditions at the pet stores, which is why we strongly discourage the gliders being sold in them. As a breeder, I WILL NOT sell my joeys to a pet store for resell.

I think you have a couple of options here, approach managment and talk to them reasonably, adult to adult, you will catch more flies with honey than vinegar! Offer to donate a pouch or two and help them get this little guy set up. Suggest the apple juice over the pelleted food. They just might go for it. Explain the why's and wherefore's of pelleted food, and why it's bad. Talk to them about the cage, or lack of, suggest they use an appropriate cage and sell it all as a package deal or they can reuse the cage later on with additional gliders. Offer to make up the 1st batch of bml, they supply the fruits and veggies, but you will cut them up and freeze them, and deliver it all to them. Do this with the understanding that you are willing to do this to help this and future gliders out, but they will need to purchase the ingredients aftwerwards.

If they totally refuse to listen to what you have to say and totally refuse to compromise, find out who the owner is, and talk to him/her.
If he/she still refuses to change anything or the owner is the manager, then, I would write a letter letting them know that you have spoken to them, and given them plenty of chances to treat the gliders humanely, and your next step will be to call the USDA to request an inspection. As well as whoever else you feel would help your cause, media, humane society, etc.
However, you also need to remember that the requirements by the USDA are nowhere near as stringent as what we recommend. They have to have room for the glider to make all their postural movements, standup, stretch, whatever they do. Fresh food and water, and a clean cage is pretty close to meeting their requirements. But, you can call and ask your local USDA inspector what he uses as a guideline. Also you can call the state dept of game and wildlife or whoever issues pet store licenses, you can ask them to investigate the store.
Just a starting point, you can contact the media if those don't work.
Good Luck, I hate seeing animals in bad conditions in any situation! But, the more people purchase an animal from them or purchase one to "rescue" it from the horrible conditions, the more you are encouraging that pet store to continue their current actions.

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#7073 - 06/01/03 10:58 PM Re: Pet store protocol?? [Re: ]
Anonymous
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Well put Reia! We do own a pet store and places like this one give all of us a BAD RAP! I have 3 pairs that live at home with me. I just had my first 2 babies oop 7 days ago! They already have deposits put on them and will never see our store! We sell lots of rep-cal, Mazuri, leashes, pouches, cages ect. I am sure we make more money on maitnance supplies than we will by breeding and selling our babys!! Mazuri is the only glider food that you will ever find on our shelves! I even keep BML in our freezer at the store... just in case someone has an emergency.

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#7074 - 06/02/03 05:41 PM manager said... [Re: ]
Anonymous
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Hi all,

I went in and spoke with one of the managers of Herpeton today (actually, I was checking on the rescue...and I spent enough time discussing gliders w/the manager that I did manage to meet C.T. and see the glider on his way!). Here are the highlights of our somewhat frustrating conversation:

-the poor little baby joey was clinging to the top corner of the cage trying to sleep (I've never seen that--seemed very abnormal to me--his tail was tightly wound), and the manager assured me that was normal, and furthermore, that gliders can "adapt to our schedules, staying awake more during the day and sleeping at night" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

-he said he'd consider some sort of handling protocol (since the babies currently hardly get handled at all), and he also said he'd consider putting a pouch in the cage (right now just a round circle of fabric is on the cage floor)

-he didn't seem to bothered by the dry pellet food (it's what they sell, from a place called Custom Cageworks in TX), and he said that he occasionally feeds the babies "a piece of apple here and there"

-he called the on-line glider community "activists" and said that much of what they (we) recommend is not in the potential owners' best interests <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

Here's the next course of action: I'm going to send him an e-mail with a list of things that I think might be helpful, along with some weblinks to good breeders and info. pages. Can you all suggest some must-haves? I'm going to include links to Lisa's and Bourbon's for starters, as well as to HERE (the main page of GC).

Thanks for helping me. I truly do believe that we can make a difference in this case!

Crystal <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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#7075 - 06/02/03 05:59 PM Re: manager said... [Re: ]
Anonymous
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Big round of applause for what you are doing!! If I ever saw a pet store do something like that around here you bet i'd be on them like you are. I don't think we are activists, it's just that exotics have different needs. Don't take this next part the wrong way anyone. Pets such as cats, dogs, hampsters have been around for ages. Therefore, there has been more time to research their needs and develop more commercialized feeding and so forth for them. Gliders don't have this "luxury." That's why it is a little more difficult to take care of them but a huge reward comes from it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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#7076 - 06/02/03 06:05 PM Re: Pet store protocol?? [Re: ]
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#7077 - 06/02/03 06:54 PM Re: Pet store protocol?? [Re: ]
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IT IS SO SAD HOW PEOPLE CAN SELL ANIMALS THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT!!! I really hope this guy comes here and sees this post. Activists? No, I wouldnt call people who have knowledge of animals and care for their well being activists.

Must haves...

A POUCH! Tell them that gliders need a pouch to sleep in. You can kinda bribe him by telling him that when the glider is sold, it must have a pouch bought with it, so in this sense, the store is making more money. That might sound more appealing to a money hungry person.

toys! Even if there are just 2 toys in there, put something in there to occupy the glider, whether it be ropes, little cat balls with the bells in them, whatever.

FRESH FRUIT AND VEGGIES! Now this is going to be hard to get them to do. But all someone has to do is cut up some fruit and veggies, place it in a freezer at the pet store, im sure they have one. And give it to the glider. But like i said, this is extra work on their part, they probably wont do it.

If you could atleast get the pouch and the toys in there, that would be sooooo much better than the way it is living right now. I know the fruits and veggies are a stretch. Anyway, thats my basic list.

You could also inform him that gliders can die of being alone if not handled. And how do you expect to sell a glider you wont let anyone hold first? Handling a glider, even if its hand feeding it, putting your hand in the cage giving it licky treats, petting it, will make the glider better of and BETTER FOR POTENTIAL OWNERS. By doing what he's doing, he is making it HARDER for the potential owners, because they will have to spend alot more time bonding with it, like others who take in NEGLECTED and MISTREATED gliders. Anyway, im angry, I must go before I hurt someone <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

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#7078 - 06/02/03 07:48 PM Re: Pet store protocol?? [Re: ]
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What is so bad about being an activist? By talking to the pet store owner, you are actively working toward better lives for sugar gliders. I would consider that activism. I think it is one of the most valuable forms of activism because reasonable, face to face interaction and dialog can be a very effective way to reach your goal (better conditions for gliders). I think people who post on this forum are also actively working toward that goal through sharing knowledge and personal experience. For example, if someone says, "my glider has been fed nothing but cat food and apples, what should I do?" then someone will direct that person to the "diets" page with the hope that the individual will give the glider an adequate diet and therefore, improve its quality of life. Activism is not a bad word. I am going to attempt to distribute reliable glider information this weekend at a home show where SG's are going to be sold. I'm not going to confront, berate or slander anybody, but I consider myself to be an activist, and I think y'all should too. Not all animal activists need to have the same ideals as PETA.

Cappy

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#7079 - 06/03/03 11:28 AM Re: Pet store protocol?? [Re: ]
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CAppy: Peta and PAws= bad news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great Job!!! If this store has any other animals, he should be buying fresh fruits and veggies especially if he has reptiles... Go in there when you can and find a nice young person who works there and see if on their shifts they will give licky treats, so you dont even have to ask the manager....I hate places like his... money hungry and dont care about the babies that are affected by their selfishness!! If the conditions don't improve please do what you can to put the word out!!!!! Thanks for caring about the little guys.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yelclap.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumb.gif" alt="" />

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#7080 - 06/03/03 05:08 PM Re: Pet store protocol?? [Re: ]
Anonymous
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Reading about this place, and, even more, reading the website have me enraged, I most likely will send the following e-mail:
"To whom it may concern,
I just read the page on your website about sugar gliders, it can be described in one word, not fantastic, not excellent, but rather, APPALLING! How dare you "toss" your gliders. Imagine a 24 foot giant coming up to you and tossing you! I don't care if you have a gliding membrane or not, you would NOT like it! As if that weren't enough, the cage you sell is a horrible size! A cage should be NO smaller than 20x20x30 inches high, yours is almost half that! You go to Australia and find me a 22 inch tall tree that has a sugar glider living in it! Also, you don't even handle your gliders! Your slogan should be "We assure that all animals have had little to no human contact, if they don't attack you within a second of you placing your hand in your cage, WE WILL GIVE YOU YOUR MONEY BACK!" Also, fruits and vegetables should be a HUGE part of their diet, not a "supplement," go to http://www.sugarglider.net/diets/index.html for proper diet information. ALSO, yes, there's more, Sugar Gliders need a pouch and/or (preferably "and") a nesting box to sleep in. I am really enraged by the care, or lack there of, that you provide your sugar gliders with, and am strongly considering reporting you to the USDA, and Humane Society."

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#7081 - 06/03/03 06:26 PM Re: Pet store protocol?? [Re: ]
Anonymous
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GO TWIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHoohhooo!!!!!!!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yelclap.gif" alt="" /> That is great!!!!!!!! I hope you send it!!!!!!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumb.gif" alt="" /> You tel them!!!!!!!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yelclap.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/multi.gif" alt="" /> And make them <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/read.gif" alt="" />!!! Yeah!!!! Now if more of the teens I knew took action!

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#7082 - 06/04/03 12:29 AM Re: Pet store protocol?? [Re: ]
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Say something about the pizza crust and how they say on their web site that they can eat whatever us humans eat! WRONG! Say something about the PIZZA CRUST!

**walks away mumbling curse words and voodoo threats** <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

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#7083 - 06/04/03 12:31 AM Re: Pet store protocol?? [Re: ]
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As hard as it is to remember, especially when it's something you are so passionate about, you can catch way more flies with honey than vinegar. Use that same patience you have with your babies and with new glider owners with the store. You want them open to you and your ideas, not secretly saying or thinking, "oh no, here they come again," "I wish they'd go bug someone else", or banning you from the store. Pretend like you are trying to win them over to your side, which you really are. I bet you get further that way than with anger and harsh emails!

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#7084 - 06/04/03 12:32 AM Re: Pet store protocol?? [Re: ]
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Chey is right, I reverse all voodoo spells i casted on this pet store <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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#7085 - 06/04/03 10:39 AM Re: Pet store protocol?? [Re: ]
Anonymous
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Yes, this is why I want to put together a LIST OF RESOURCES for the very polite e-mail that I'm sending. As much as I am just dying to flame them all (based on that hideous website), I know that doesn't work. Especially since the herpeton people already think we're some sort of radical animal activists (which in their book has a negative connotation).

That said, I will send out a call again for what I should include on my list of resources...anything besides Suncoast, Bourbon's page, and the main page of GC? Any articles I should include? diet studies or things about lumpy jaw? Anyhing about handling? (those are my main two concernts)

Thanks all...I appreciate the support and feedback. I am convinced that I can make a positive difference! I mean, hey, they're certainly not going to stop selling gliders (because they do sell a lot of them and they make money onthem), but at least if I can get them to sell healthy, well-adjusted gliders to owners who are well-educated and prepared (the manager also assured me that they do try to screen their owners--yeah right), then at least we'll reduce the number of rescues that end up back in the store (hopefully)!!

thanks,
Crystal <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
and Punka <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/littleglider.gif" alt="" />

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#7086 - 06/04/03 11:47 AM Re: Pet store protocol?? [Re: ]
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Crystal, maybe if you suggest a cage setup that they can sell with the glider. And how they need a pouch, and will need more to have for when they wash, and to have an extra one in there, since they like to trade out where they sleep sometimes. By knowing about gliders and their needs, he can build a profit off his glider related sales. Etc, etc.
You might try approaching them that way!

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#7087 - 06/04/03 01:48 PM Re: Pet store protocol?? [Re: ]
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OMG! They are horrible people! I live in Austin and I have been to Herepton's South Location. One time I went in there to find like 7 or 8 babies all crowed together under a circle of cloth in a tiny cage...like 12"x12". Horrible! They also just have to lay on wood pieces like a gerbal! Both a girl and a guy in the store have gliders and feed them BML...but in the store the poor babies just get pellets of this 'sugar glider food' junk. Also, we went there again and there was a bunny in a cage with a cut toe! It was horrible! If you need me to do something since I live in Austin I would be happy to do so! My bf has known people who purchased a glider from Herepton's (not knowing any better) and their glider died within two weeks. He talked to her and she was doing everything right! She actually got two from there and they both died within a month! What a rotten, rotten place!
When we were in the store the other day I heard one woman asking if she bought a rabbit and took it to the vet and it wasn't healthy, if she would get her money back. The boy working there kinda mumbbled something along the lines that all of their animals are guaranteed to be healthy! HA! What a crock! I'm sure their turtles are healthy too because the swim around in filthy water!

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#7088 - 06/05/03 01:28 AM Re: Pet store protocol?? [Re: ]
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Also in Austin, Also concerned about this pet store. I have only been to the one up north. Your right one girl at the one up north has a glider she seems like she takes care of, but the babies at the store and the poor adults that end up there are in the worst conditions. All they care about is money and they don't want to change their conditions because they are making money and that is all they really care about at this store. I hate to say this about someone but it is true. Is there anything I could help with. I can't think of any other sites to add. Maybe we Austinites could get together to put a stop to this once and for all. This store should not sell gliders that is all there is to it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

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#7089 - 06/06/03 11:01 AM Re: Pet store protocol?? [Re: ]
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/multi.gif" alt="" />I got my little Lilo at a pet store because I really felt sorry for her. She had been in a cage for 2 weeks without anyone holding her. Normally, this pet store will let the customers interact with the animals, but no one really knew what to do with suggies. It has taken us over a month to really bond with Lilo. She is just now letting me pet her while she is in her pouch without trying to bite me. She will take treats from me. Otherwise, she will crab at me and hide in her cage. Since I've gotten Lilo, the pet store lets me go in and hold the other suggies when they get them in. The new ones are bonding rather well, and getting sold a lot quicker. Try this with your pet store. Go in at least once a week and ask to hold the suggies. I take my own boding pouch. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/multi.gif" alt="" />

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#7090 - 06/06/03 11:38 AM Re: Pet store protocol?? [Re: ]
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I work in a pet store that i think is pretty good. When we first sold some gliders we had them in a decent cage witha pouch but only fed hard food...mostly becuase no one knew any better <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />. Then i got interested in them and found the BML. I make a batch and take it to the store for the gliders. So you might want to donate a batch of BML and stress that they need fruits and veggies along with the mixture. Also you can probably make a few pouches and donate them to the store. I like cheys idea also of making a starter kit for gliders. I have found that people would rather by a starter kit then try to find the stuff all on there own. Its horrible how some stores treat there animals. I just wish they would do more <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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#7091 - 06/06/03 06:35 PM Re: Pet store protocol?? [Re: ]
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Well, it's done. I just sent a nearly-three-page e-mail to the manager I talked to at Herpeton. Basically, I detailed the areas I thought could use improvement and outlined how they might be improved. I included parts on handling, housing, diet, and owner screening. I suggested a starter package that included a bigger cage and toys and a bonding pouch. I recommended no hard pellet food. I gave a list of on-line resources (including, of course, GC <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />). I even offered to make up an info. sheet for potential owners, something to put on display next to the glider cages so people could take it, do some research of their own, and then really decide if a glider is the right pet for them.

What more I can do, I don't know. Now the waiting begins. I'm planning on stopping by later this weekend to see if he got the e-mail.

Thanks for the help everyone! I'll keep you all posted.

Crystal
and Punka <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/littleglider.gif" alt="" />

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