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#71598 - 12/07/05 12:34 PM SCARE LAST NIGHT ! ! ! !

A little history:
This incident was with my rescues, Itchy and Scratchy...they had joeys IP when I got them, back a couple of months ago. They had lost their first set of joeys, don't know the exact reason, however:
1) they were not on a proven diet
2) that was their first set of joeys
3) I was told the joeys were handled alot, but not supplemented.

Okay, at about 9:30 last night I heard Scratchy singing to the babies, (so sweet)!
Then about 10:00 I heard all kinds of commotion, and went to check on them. When I got to the cage door, Scratchy usually will stop whatever she's doing and pop her head out of her pouch and greet me or she'll come right over to me if she's already out of her pouch. None of this I looked in the bag, and after inspecting, I saw quite clearly that one baby was out of her pouch but not attached to her nursing, I shooed off Itchy (dad) and gently grabbed the pouch, and brought it with me to my kitchen talking to Scratchy trying to calm her, I grabbed the mealworms and tweezered one to her which seemed to help calm her. I then tried to push the baby up from the outside of the bag with my hand gently to get he/she back up to Scratchy's pouch to make it easier for him/her to get back to the nursing...

I'm not sure, but I know Scratchy noticed that I was stressing over trying to help, even though I was calm, I was terrified inside thinking I was going to have to take care of this one little baby.....

I gave her a few more mealies and placed her back with Itchy, of course he was very upset that I had taken his Scratchy and joeys away from him...

I waited about 30 minutes before checking in on them again, I could still hear the chattering amongst them, when I checked, I could see that Itchy was attempting to help her get the baby to her pouch, the baby was still on the outside of the pouch.

30 more minutes go by and I check again, to find the joey has been succesfully placed back in Scratchy's pouch

I have all my supplies ready to go if one or both of the joeys are rejected....

I don't know if I did the right thing?
Do any of you think that I may have stopped a failed attempt to reject?
After last night I would like to think that Scratchy is genuinely trying to keep her little ones, both of them, what do any of you think?

I am sooo nervous about this set of joeys, for Scratchy's sake...

Patiently awaiting experienced advice, and thanks WAY in advanced!!!

#71599 - 01/08/06 02:21 PM Re: SCARE LAST NIGHT ! ! ! ! [Re: ]
petsugargliders Offline
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Registered: 11/14/03
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I know it has been a while since you posted this. Any updates?
Jennifer Chandler
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#71600 - 01/08/06 03:02 PM Re: SCARE LAST NIGHT ! ! ! ! [Re: ]
Badgersmommy Offline
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Registered: 04/30/05
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Loc: Kentucky
maybe they were stressed out trying to figure out how to get the baby back in themselves? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Please let us know how they are!
Glider Kids - Badger and Bonnie, Pepsi and Grace, Victoria.. ahem..I mean ummm..Victor! and Isabella <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

#71601 - 01/09/06 04:15 PM Re: SCARE LAST NIGHT ! ! ! ! [Re: ]

Hey, I am so sorry to say that both little boys passed away, they didn't last a week. They came OOP on a Monday (12/5) and passed the Sunday (12/11) after.

I did try with the supplements, but Scratchy tricked me into believing she was caring for them.

I don't know what to think of those two gliders. Itchy doesn't seem to have stayed with them at all when Scratchy needed to eat. Dads are supposed to baby-sit when moms go out of the pouch to eat! Then I find out about Wednesday of that week, Scratchy stopped eating her staple food with all the vitamins and calcium in it, so I started mixing it in anything I knew she would eat, yogurt, the baby food veggies, on the fruit, I even started pouring a little ensure with extra calcium in it over her staple food. She just would not cooperate, it's like she didn't want to produce milk for them.

There could have been something wrong with the joeys, but I don't think so. What I think is it could have been her move in with me in November that through her off and her diet being introduced to her OR that she just doesn't want to care for her young. Soooo, I decided that I will let her try once more to have babies and the very first insignificant sign of bad mommying, I am snatching the babies immediately. Then neutering Itchy.

I also, since the loss of the babies, had to take Itchy into the vet for a check, he seemed pretty depressed and lethargic, not coming out of the pouch, not eating, etc. To make sure he wasn't ill, I decided to take Teresa's and Peggy's advice and take him in. He checked out to be just fine, we found out he was healthy, so it did ease my mind most importantly. I also think that me taking time with him, he sensed he was special, because since that day, he just did a complete turn around.

My Boss at work already told me that if they do have babies that it wouldn't be a problem to bring them in with me if this happens again so I can watch them around the clock for their feedings. I will keep you all posted. These two are already at it again, just over the week-end. She must be having her cycle, so you never know!

#71602 - 01/09/06 04:23 PM Re: SCARE LAST NIGHT ! ! ! ! [Re: ]

I am so sorry to hear about your loss. Sending prayers and Hugs your way. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

#71603 - 01/09/06 05:00 PM Re: SCARE LAST NIGHT ! ! ! ! [Re: ]
Badgersmommy Offline
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Registered: 04/30/05
Posts: 1382
Loc: Kentucky
I'm so sorry this happened! *tears* Prayers and more Hugs!
Glider Kids - Badger and Bonnie, Pepsi and Grace, Victoria.. ahem..I mean ummm..Victor! and Isabella <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

#71604 - 01/10/06 08:59 PM Re: SCARE LAST NIGHT ! ! ! ! [Re: ]

Oh I', so sorry, I just lost the joey one of my girls was carrying. It's hurts so bad!! Hang in there.


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