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#73107 - 12/17/05 02:37 AM Parents on Killing Spree Help!
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My first breeding pair had twins a couple of months ago. Both joeys were rejected. I tried to save them but was too late. Then they had two more joeys come oop five days ago. One was rejected and couldn't be saved. The little boy seemed to be perfectly healthy. He was warm and had a full tummy and was fiesty. I checked on him last night. Then tonight when I went to feed them there was nothing but little bones in there. I'm so upset I don't know what to do. I know I have to feed them but I don't even wanna go over there.

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#73108 - 12/17/05 04:13 AM Re: Parents on Killing Spree Help! [Re: ]
Judie Offline
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Registered: 10/25/01
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Loc: Edwardsville, Kansas 66113
I am so sorry for the loss of the tiny ones. Handfeeding or even supplementing wee ones is difficult and a huge responsibility and usually takes much practice to be successfull.

As to why the parents inability to raise healthy joeys... it is difficult to sort out all of the why's.

On another note... you may want to consider neutering the male... and just enjoying your pair as pets only. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />
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#73109 - 12/17/05 05:51 AM Re: Parents on Killing Spree Help! [Re: ]
sugarglidersuz Offline
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Registered: 08/28/04
Posts: 14788
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
[:"green"]I am so sorry that you have had to experience cannibalization twice. Keep in mind that gliders are instinctually still "wild". They don't know they are doing anything "wrong". There are a wide variety of reasons as to why this may be happening...
- Are they under any kind of stress at all? Such as: Are there birds or cats that live in the same house with them? Is their cage near a window that is drafty? Are they in a high-traffic zone of the house? Are there other male gliders in the same room? They will reject and may cannibalize the joey if they feel the environment isn't "safe".
- Is their diet high enough in protein? If the mother doesn't get enough protein in her diet (40-50% when she is nursing), she won't produce enough milk. She will reject and may cannibalize the joey if she doesn't feel she can keep up with its demand for food.
- Sometimes the joey has a health issue that we are not aware of. It doesn't have to be a visual defect for it to be present. Gliders will "kill the weakest link" to protect the rest of the "colony".

There are other possibilities as to why this may be happening, but these are the most common scenarios. Try changing their environment and increasing the protein in their diet to see if it makes a difference. Those are the first two steps to trying to prevent this from continuing to happen...
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#73110 - 12/17/05 06:00 AM Re: Parents on Killing Spree Help! [Re: ]
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Registered: 11/13/03
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It is easy to get an attitude at the parents when they kill their joeys. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Try to overcome it though. As Judie said there are many reasons why glider moms kill their little ones. Some of the reasons are: First time parents, mom not producing enough milk, mom has yeast infection, joey's were born with birth defect we cannot see, mom was lacking something in her diet, stress. These are some of the things I can think of but there are probably more. Whatever the reason the gliders were doing what they thought was the right thing to do. They were not just being mean. In their own way they were trying to protect the species.
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#73111 - 12/17/05 12:04 PM Re: Parents on Killing Spree Help! [Re: ]
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I am so sorry to hear about this:o( My pair has 2 babies, about 6 days OOP. Each day, I pray that they will still be alive and healthy. I can only imagine the pain you must feel, and I completely understand why you are upset with your gliders. I know if something happens to my babies, I will not be very understanding at all. It is so awful, and who knows why animals eat their young. It is something that is very, very difficult for we people to understand.

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#73112 - 12/17/05 03:04 PM Re: Parents on Killing Spree Help! [Re: ]
Anonymous
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Thank you so much for your feed back. I realize now that there are several stress factors in their environment. I feel terrible to think is situations I have put them in to make them do this. It made me cry to see all the support you have given. At this point in time I think it is best that I get them fixed. Will they still have health problems themselves from these stress factors though? My house isn't big enough to give them the privacy they obviously need. Thank you soo much for your help.

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#73113 - 12/17/05 03:36 PM Re: Parents on Killing Spree Help! [Re: ]
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mom was lacking something in her diet

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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/offtopic.gif" alt="" /> That reminds me... Gunna open a thread somewhat related to this thread, due to something I'd heard that really got my attention.

Mikey <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dance.gif" alt="" />

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