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#749814 - 03/15/09 01:17 AM Still a little confuzed about licence.
Mir
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Ok so i have 2 females and one male so i dont need a licence. I know i can breed them but the part im not sure of is can i SELL any joeys. like if one of my females had twin girls then i would have 4 and would need a license. or can i sell one so i dont have over 3. I want to be sure its legal to sell a sugar glider as long as i have less than three. i dont plan to breed a lot but i would like to a few times. i plan sell the females and get the males nueterd.

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#750170 - 03/15/09 08:35 PM Re: Still a little confuzed about licence. [Re: ]
LSardou Offline
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I'm sorry no one has answered your question so far. I wished I had the answer, but I'm not a breeder and not familiar with the breeding/selling laws.

You could check with your local USDA agency they would be able to provide you with the correct procedures.

Good Luck!

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#750208 - 03/15/09 09:28 PM Re: Still a little confuzed about licence. [Re: LSardou]
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I think you only need a breeding license if you have 4 or more breeding pairs of gliders. I am not for sure though. I would ask around a little more.

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#750209 - 03/15/09 09:38 PM Re: Still a little confuzed about licence. [Re: ]
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You can check with the USDA, but I do believe you have to have at least 3 breeding females to even apply for a license.
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#750217 - 03/15/09 09:48 PM Re: Still a little confuzed about licence. [Re: gliderma]
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You have to have 3 or more breeding females in order to obtain a USDA license. Otherwise, you can get one, but you're not required to.
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#750229 - 03/15/09 10:02 PM Re: Still a little confuzed about licence. [Re: BeckiT]
RafikiGlider
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Are you REQUIRED to have a license at any point or it is optional?

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#750265 - 03/15/09 11:48 PM Re: Still a little confuzed about licence. [Re: ]
Mir
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I understand that if you have less than 3 breeding females you dont need to have a licence to breed them but can you SELL the joeys that come from those breedings?

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#750298 - 03/16/09 04:51 AM Re: Still a little confuzed about licence. [Re: ]
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Registered: 07/22/05
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Miranda,
I am not sure what the laws are in Missouri, but here is what I know from Florida and the USDA...

You are REQUIRED to have a USDA license if you have over 3 breeding females and sell the joeys.

I am in your same predicament... I had EXACTLY 3 females and when they would have joeys I could have potentially up to 9 females at once. I called up the USDA and they told me that a BREEDING female is a female of BREEDING age. As long as you do not have more than 3 females over 9months oop you will not count.

For FLORIDA anyone who sells a glider needs a STATE license regardless of how many. Technically even people who are selling their pet because they do not want it anymore are required by law to get a license first. If you want to breed your females and sell the joeys, I would give your state a call and ask what you need to have first.

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#750559 - 03/16/09 06:13 PM Re: Still a little confuzed about licence. [Re: oakley]
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Meghan is correct, you must obtain a license if you have MORE than 3 (i.e. 4 or more) breeding females. So your joeys do not count, as they are not breeding age, unless you intend to keep them to breed. If you plan to keep 4 or more females to breed, you may as well start the process for your license and tell them that by the time the license comes through you will have 4+ breeding females.

3 or fewer breeding age females = no license required (and potentially difficult to get even if you try).
4 or more breeding age females = license is required in order to sell, trade, or in any way profit from the offspring.

Also remember that 4+ means that ANY species the USDA oversees, so if (for instance) you have 2 breeding female chinchillas and 2 breeding female sugar gliders, you MUST obtain a USDA license in order to sell, trade, etc. offspring of either species.
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#751953 - 03/19/09 09:50 PM Re: Still a little confuzed about licence. [Re: sugarlope]
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Just an F.Y.I.

Please be aware & understand that sugargliders have been known to breed as young as 4.5 to 5 months old.

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#752027 - 03/20/09 12:24 AM Re: Still a little confuzed about licence. [Re: SweetGliders]
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Originally Posted By: SweetGliders
Just an F.Y.I.

Please be aware & understand that sugargliders have been known to breed as young as 4.5 to 5 months old.

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This is a very good point. But I think if you do not keep the young females with a male (depending on your USDA inspector) they do not count.

However, as I said, if you are planning on having more than 3 breeding females, why worry about the semantics, just start the process and let them know you will have enough for a license by the time it comes through. thumb
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#807933 - 07/16/09 02:46 AM Re: Still a little confuzed about licence. [Re: sugarlope]
threewingedfury
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Originally Posted By: sugarlope
Also remember that 4+ means that ANY species the USDA oversees, so if (for instance) you have 2 breeding female chinchillas and 2 breeding female sugar gliders, you MUST obtain a USDA license in order to sell, trade, etc. offspring of either species.


I know this thread is a bit old, but I just wanted to comment on this - the number of breeding chinchillas you have does not count when it comes to USDA regulations. Chinchillas are considered livestock in the eyes of the USDA, and you can have 1000s and you're still not required to be licensed, even if you're breeding sugar gliders. I made sure of this because I've been breeding chins for over 4 years and just started breeding gliders last year and I needed to make sure that I didn't have to be USDA certified because I had 10 female chins in breeding when I got my 2 female gliders.

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