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#79473 - 01/24/06 12:16 AM HELP..::Sore/Wound on Patagium::...??
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I noticed a small sore type patch on Badgers patagium when he woke up tonight <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" />. I have tried examine it with him in a towel but he totally freaked out so I didn't get a good look yet. It doesn't appear like he has broken skin, more like a sore patch that he has been licking, I could see the fur a little wet around the area.

Other than that he is acting prefectly normal, he's out of the cage right now blowing off some steam... hoping I can get a better hold of him in a few minutes. I don't think I can take a photo without help...

The mark is about the circumfrence of a pea and doesn't look red (more of a skin colour), I can't think of anything that could have caused it. I wiped down the entire cage this evening and found no sharp jagged edges etc. They were in the pouch on me for 6 hours this evening and I heard no grooming noises or anything.

I'm going to get him to the vet tomorrow, but need to know if there is anything I can do right now. Should I put any cream or something on it?????

He was neuterd last Wednesday and has had no complications what so ever... I'm starting to panick... don't know what I'm dealing with here.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif" alt="" />

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#79474 - 01/24/06 12:27 AM Re: HELP..::Sore/Wound on Patagium::...?? [Re: ]
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I got a photo...don't know how good it will come out. The sore is dry and not oozing in any way. The fur around it is dry now. It seems like a patch of dry skin and he didn't seem like it hurt when I touch it.

Do I need to get some moisture type cream on it or neosporin?????


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#79475 - 01/24/06 01:02 AM Re: HELP..::Sore/Wound on Patagium::...?? [Re: ]
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Registered: 02/19/04
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Loc: Long Island, NY
Is that just from today? Seems he may be over grooming but I don't know. I would keep an eye on him and if it gets worse I would bring him to the vet. Hopefully someone will be along soon with some more advise.
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#79476 - 01/24/06 01:11 AM Re: HELP..::Sore/Wound on Patagium::...?? [Re: ]
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I've been watching him and he IS grooming it. I didn't notice anything last night... but that doesn't mean it wasn't there. The last few evenings I've been trying to watch his neuter site for any unwanted activity.

He hasn't been at it much... but obviously enough to get a bald patch. I can't imagine why he would start this, he gets play time every night and toys switched around and new ones added all the time <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nixweiss.gif" alt="" /> He seems to be in a really good mood tonight... he's playing like there's no tomorrow, and being really friendly with me... even after I wraped him in a towel twice and pulled at him.

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#79477 - 01/24/06 01:19 AM Re: HELP..::Sore/Wound on Patagium::...?? [Re: ]
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He could be stressed over the neutering. Is he a lone glider? Not that that means all that much when he gets playtime all the time.
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#79478 - 01/24/06 01:33 AM Re: HELP..::Sore/Wound on Patagium::...?? [Re: ]
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No he's not alone... he has a female buddy Roxy. Now the last few nights she has been acting a little strange in that she doesn't eat much veggies or fruit and only some ensure. She has been going crazy for mealies, turkey and eggs and would eat as much of those as I'd give her. She also has been sleeping more than usual <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nixweiss.gif" alt="" /> I gave them a pinkie mouse last night and she ate the whole thing in one sitting!!

Is there any chance that something was picked up at the vets by Badger... mites, a virus anything like that?? I'm just grabbing at straws here trying to make sence of them. But the thing is that Badger is very active and playful drinking lenty of water and all that.

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#79479 - 01/24/06 01:55 AM Re: HELP..::Sore/Wound on Patagium::...?? [Re: ]
gliderdad79 Offline
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She could be leaving more food for him. I know when my male got neutered, she was very protective over him and always let him eat first which never happens
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#79480 - 01/24/06 02:17 AM Re: HELP..::Sore/Wound on Patagium::...?? [Re: ]
Badgersmommy Offline
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The picture must look worse than it really looks? (the pic looks scary to me) Is there any lump or is it just the skin itself? Other than getting him back to the vet, I don't know what to do. Me personally would put Neo on it..but that's me. (and watch him like a hawk) Good luck with your baby and let us know what it is please!
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#79481 - 01/24/06 02:22 AM Re: HELP..::Sore/Wound on Patagium::...?? [Re: ]
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Registered: 10/25/01
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Most of the time... when the behavior changes there is a good possibility there is an underlying problem. My suggestion is to have both of the gliders checked for wellness so should there be a problem it will be addressed befor it becomes a crisis.

For now... apply a very small amount of neosproin on the wound. Apply and then hold him for about five minutes to allow the ointment to absorb into the skin. Once he is free he will lick the what is left of the ointment off.
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#79482 - 01/24/06 07:38 AM Re: HELP..::Sore/Wound on Patagium::...?? [Re: ]
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The sore looks a hundred times worse in the photo <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />. He done really well last night, I caught him licking it a few times and distracted him. I couldn't encourage either on to eat much, but like I said they were up and about playing.

They are both going to the vet this evening, I'm going to bring them to work to keep an eye on them (hope I don't get in trouble for that <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" />).

Thanks all for the advice, I'll be back later with a vet report...

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#79483 - 01/24/06 08:42 AM Re: HELP..::Sore/Wound on Patagium::...?? [Re: ]
sugarglidersuz Offline
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Registered: 08/28/04
Posts: 14788
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
[:"green"]Please do let us know what the vet says...

My Mareki had a sore on her patagium about 2 weeks ago, it is healing up very nicely now. The vet gave her oral antibiotics & topical SSD cream (Silvadine) to put on it.
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#79484 - 01/24/06 08:47 AM Re: HELP..::Sore/Wound on Patagium::...?? [Re: ]
Badgersmommy Offline
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Registered: 04/30/05
Posts: 1382
Loc: Kentucky
Oh good...I'm glad that photo looks worse than it looks in real life! Will be waiting to hear how your Badger is doing <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> hehe..it's cute we both have a Badger!
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#79485 - 01/24/06 09:04 AM Re: HELP..::Sore/Wound on Patagium::...?? [Re: ]
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Thank you all <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thanx.gif" alt="" />,

Yea, Badger was my hubby's choice and I love the name it really suits him <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />. We are at work now, I'm worried that I'll be in BIG trouble if anyone finds out they are here. I have them with me in the office in one of those gym bag pet carriers. The problem is that I work at a 5 diamond, 5 star restaurant and am certain that pets wouldn't be acceptable. My boss (the GM) is off today but I think I should mention that Badger is sick and I need to watch him. Everyone here knows about the suggies, I have photos all around my desk.

I hear them making more of the 'get your foot out of my face' noises than usual <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worried2.gif" alt="" /> and some grooming sneezing noises... I'm so worried that this might be more than overgrooming, but can't get to the vet until this evening <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif" alt="" />. I have not heard the SM crabbing or anything close to crabbing. I do have the E collar with me and the pain meds he was sent home with after neutering.

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#79486 - 01/24/06 09:09 AM Re: HELP..::Sore/Wound on Patagium::...?? [Re: ]
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Under the circumstances I would try to find a quiet out of the way place for them...Like under a desk or in an unused office...away from people traffic if you can...and just check on them as you're able...(But I'm sure that's probably what you had in mind...) Good Luck with your Suggies, and let us know what the vet says!

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#79487 - 01/24/06 09:11 AM Re: HELP..::Sore/Wound on Patagium::...?? [Re: ]
Badgersmommy Offline
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Registered: 04/30/05
Posts: 1382
Loc: Kentucky
Hang in there! You're doing great! Maybe a yogurt drop or sumpin will keep em busy for a few minutes from the spats. It works for me sometimes..lol (or some real special goodies from the restaurant..hehe)

That's funny about his name cause when we got Badger, his name was Gizmo. I wanted to name him Peanut or about 10 other names I had in mind. My hubby also INSISTED his name be Badger! I didn't like it ..but it grew on me and it fits him too! LOL

Just my opinion, but maybe give him a little of the pain meds and he might sleep? or does that kind of pain med work that way? Good luck, I am praying for Badger! (((HUGS)))
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#79488 - 01/24/06 09:40 AM Re: HELP..::Sore/Wound on Patagium::...?? [Re: ]
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I just got off the phone with the vet (was trying to get an appointment), they don't think I need to bring them in this evening <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> and said to seperate Badger and Roxy and put Badger in his small pet traveler cage for tonight with all his food. This does not make any sence to me. I think that would stress him out even more and cause more problems <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif" alt="" /> I don't know of any other vet to go to <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/upset.gif" alt="" />, I have been to one other before and that was a disaster and all the others that I talked with on the phone sounded terrible. The vet also said to give him the pain meds and watch him for 24 hours and call them back. What do I do now???? They also said not to put anything on the sore area.

I'm starting to cry now as I feel that they don't want to help him or Roxy, and I'm not experienced enough to know what I'm doing <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" />. I even told them that I was worried that they would get dehydrated soon if they won't eat anything and she kept saying to seperate them and he should eat. I don't understand this... why would they turn away businness and...

I need help from the experts before this suitation gets out of my controll..... HELP....

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#79489 - 01/24/06 09:43 AM Re: HELP..::Sore/Wound on Patagium::...?? [Re: ]
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Oh, my boss knows they are here with me... I couldn't lie and not tell him. He was very understanding and just said not to tell anybody else, he also asked if I would bring them in again tomorrow so he can see them.

Honesty is the best policy <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />.

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#79490 - 01/24/06 10:04 AM Re: HELP..::Sore/Wound on Patagium::...?? [Re: ]
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Registered: 09/10/04
Posts: 22746
Loc: 80 acres of paradise in KS
I would not seperate them if they were mine. If it is anything contagous, then she has already been exposed so seperating them for that reason won't do any good. They may have suggested the seperation to prevent HER from grooming the wound though.

Offer fruit juice/water (50/50) or pedialite/water to help keep them hydrated. Food of any kind that they will eat. Worry about proper balances later.

I would put neosporin on it like Judie suggested. Don't use the neosporin + pain reliever unless you have the ecollar on it (and it doesn't sound like the collar is needed at this point). This is what they had me do with Whisper's mating wound, rinse the area/sore with a 5% betadine solution (iodine would work but betadine is better) prior to the application of the neosporin. If he seems to be paying alot of attention to it, then I would use the pain meds you have but perhaps in half dose.

Keep a close eye on him and if in ANY doubt at all, get him to the vet. Don't wait like they suggested. Just show up and tell them that you are worried and feel something needs to be done. Please keep us posted on what is going on.
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#79491 - 01/24/06 10:07 AM Re: HELP..::Sore/Wound on Patagium::...?? [Re: ]
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I would try and insist for your vet, tell them you believe it is an emergancy, maybe they just didn't get the hint the first time. Sometimes I talk to the assistants who don't know much, so I emphasize more and they get the point, because, if it were a dog or cat, a bald spot wouldn't be as major as it it may be to a glider. SO, if you really want an apptment, get one. I'm sure if you insist it could turn into an emergancy...

About seperating them, I'll let someone else handle that one.

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#79492 - 01/24/06 12:22 PM Re: HELP..::Sore/Wound on Patagium::...?? [Re: ]
Xfilefan Offline
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Registered: 02/22/03
Posts: 8899
Loc: Jacksonville, FL
In cases like this, frequently when there is overgrooming in a limb, there is the beginnings of an infection or an injury in there. He could have gotten a wound so tiny it didn't bleed, and you couldn't see it or know, but then some bacteria gets in..the wound closes up, but then what got in starts an infection. It bothers them, and they begin to overgroom, and it can lead to sm. I would take him back in, WITHOUT an appointment if they won't make one for you-show up at the desk and say you've got a glider with an emergency. TELL them you need a broad spectrum antibiotic (if they'll run tests, fine, but unless it's something like mites (doubtful, tho the possibility exists) infections of a limb won't show up in urine or fecals) to shotgut treat, and that if it is allowed to continue, that gliders have been known to chew off a limb that is infected-[[it likely isn't that serious yet, or maybe not at all-- but THEY don't have to know that, and it could get to that IF an infection is present]] Give them a stony face glare when you say it. It's always better to be safe than sorry , and I've noticed that most vets will agree with that...IF you can get past the ditzy reception people at the desk--going in and demanding care for your baby tends to get you past them to the vet.

Also, is there another vet you can try? If you need to, print this thread out and take it with you. When gliders show symptoms, it's NOTHING to play around with or delay, and any vet that treats gliders either should know that, or learn it quick, considering how late in the game symptoms tend to appear at all, and how fast things can go downhill with our babies. Tell them that several other glider owners have told you that vet care IS needed. After all, YOU are PAYING for their services, and you shouldn't under ANY circumstances have to beg them for it, especially with a sick animal.
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#79493 - 01/24/06 03:38 PM Re: HELP..::Sore/Wound on Patagium::...?? [Re: ]
Badgersmommy Offline
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Registered: 04/30/05
Posts: 1382
Loc: Kentucky
ummm...yeah, everything she just said. I would do the same as far as the spot and the vet too...(((anudder HUG)))
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#79494 - 01/24/06 03:51 PM Re: HELP..::Sore/Wound on Patagium::...?? [Re: ]
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Thank you Xfilefan, I have printed everything out and am just going to go there and not call again. I even sent them an email with the photo and got no response yet. They have both been sleeping soundly all day, and I am afraid to take Badger out of his pouch in a strange place to take a good look at it.
I also want them to look at Roxy and see if she's getting dehydrated or not. She had a wellness check last Tuesday and all was well, but she has had a major behaviour change since then, so of course I'm worried <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worried2.gif" alt="" />.

I'm going to try leave work a little early, it's a 2 hour drive to the vet from here and of course it'll be in DC rush hour traffic <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ohwell.gif" alt="" />.

Badgersmommy, thank you so much for all the support.... it means a lot <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />. I'll update when I get home later.

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thanx.gif" alt="" />

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#79495 - 01/24/06 09:41 PM Re: HELP..::Sore/Wound on Patagium::...?? [Re: ]
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Well the vet visit was a waste of time <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tantrum.gif" alt="" />, first of all they didn't even let us see a vet but instead 2 vet tech's, my only other option was the emergency clinic (which I have been to before for Badgers first wellness check and the netted him in a fishing net and examined him without ever touching him), so there was no point in going there.

I was told that a vet was the only one able to run tests of any kind, and of course when you are NOT ALLOWED see a vet you can't get any tests done. I was also told to give them fluids through a syringe and keep offering food. They also said to seperate them but gave me no real reason why I should do this.

They didn't think they were too bad since each glider was able to walk and jump. I'm so upset and mad at the same time.

As I write this both the kids are out playing and I gave them a grape and they ate most of it. Each took mealies and a yoggie drop... so I think that is a really good sign.

Badgers sore is dry at the moment and I haven't seen him touch it all day <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dance.gif" alt="" />.

The wohle experience this evening was a disaster and got the suggies all upset for nothing. Oh, and they said I could leave them there overnight and somebody would check them over in the morning. Needless to say that was not going to happen. At least I'mm here with them all night and will watch out for anything wrong.

But I am feeling better that they took some food even though it was a little. I also had to do the skin pinch test myself at the vets to let them see that they were starting to get dehydrated, that's when they gave me syringes to give fluids with.

I'm too mad right now to write any more and want to spend time with the suggies and let them know I love them... poor things have got to be so confused <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />.

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#79496 - 01/24/06 09:51 PM Re: HELP..::Sore/Wound on Patagium::...?? [Re: ]
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I forgot to add that they sent me home with an 8 oz. can of 'CliniCare' canine/feline liquid diet. I'm to giveeach of them 2cc by mouth 2 times daily until eating on their own.

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#79497 - 01/24/06 11:24 PM Re: HELP..::Sore/Wound on Patagium::...?? [Re: ]
Xfilefan Offline
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Registered: 02/22/03
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I'd be mad, too. That was uncalled for. If they charged you for it, I'd show up when they opened and demand to see a vet free of charge (since you don't pay an office visit to see a tech that can't do anything for you!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />) Otherwise, see if you can get into the emergency clinic.

I know kitten milk replacer is recommended for gliders, but not the puppy one...as long as the dehydration is not severe..I'd go with Ensure, personally (you don't want to do Ensure with severe dehydration, it will complicate things, and possibly make it worse). If they're not eating..I'd do .2 cc's water every hour (until they seem to be rehydrated) and up to .4cc's Ensure about every 3 hours-as long as they're eating some on their own, that should do.

I'm so sorry you were treated like that. If they still refuse to let you see a vet, I'd ask for a refund of anything you paid, since they did, essentially, nothing! Syringes typically run .29 each-offer to pay for those out of it, but you'd like the rest back-since you didn't get the services you paid for.

I've had bad vet experiences before, too (One I will NEVER go back to, and if I ever see the man he'll be nursing a broken nose!) so I know how frustrating it is. Here's some <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> to help you feel a little better. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Just keep an eye on it until you can get them seen. If she is also not eating, it could be something contagious, so have them both looked at. If you need someone to consult with the ER vet, here's my cell # 435-640-9438-and I can give you my vet's numbers. Hang in there. In the meantime, keep them warm (on you is best while you're up-under a jacket or in your shirt..be VERY careful with the heating pad...it's a dry heat, and can actually make dehydration worse). Give them some of their favorite treats...they'll stop being mad soon in the face of yogurt drops or hawaiian delight lickies. All our hopes and prayers with your babies! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />
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#79498 - 01/25/06 01:37 AM Re: HELP..::Sore/Wound on Patagium::...?? [Re: ]
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Registered: 04/30/05
Posts: 1382
Loc: Kentucky
That was uncalled for! I would have lost it in there! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Good grief, you've been through enough without all that.

At this point, I would give them Pedialyte. JMO and any licky treat they will take. If they aren't eating their reg. diet right now though, I would get some vitamins or at least calcium added in to the lickies too.

I'm praying this is just something that will just go away real soon. My Badger had a "lump" on his neck that had a tiny scab on it. I went nuts scared out of my mind. It came and went, strange..then disappeared for good. (I hope) I put neosporin on it. He never bothered it or anything, I think it was a little infection from Bonnie's nail catching him...couldn't find anything else and she does give neck hugs. lol Anyway, I'm hoping your baby's sore goes away like ours did. It sounds like he is doing pretty good and he does have a great mommy to take care of him! (((HUGS)))
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#79499 - 01/25/06 09:52 AM Re: HELP..::Sore/Wound on Patagium::...?? [Re: ]
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Thank you guys for being so understanding <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

I just got off the phone with Bourbon *swoon* ( I felt like I was talking with a celebrity, was all nervous for a minute <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />), and what an amazing knowledgeable person. She doesn't think we are dealing with SM, *breathing giant sigh of relief*, and there are many things that I need to check when I get home from work this evening. I had gone over the cage with a cotton pad and checked any toys etc...... BUT I had not checked the outside of the cage (and anywhere else they play), so I need to do that. I also wash all the pouches and other fleece items with Tide, it's possible that there could be a reaction to that or the clorox wipes that use daily on the cage <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nixweiss.gif" alt="" />. There is also a possibility that there could be a mite/parasite problem <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nixweiss.gif" alt="" />. Oh so many things to consider right now.

I'm going to call some other vets this morning and put them through a interagation. What I have been noticing with the vets around here is that firstly they are not familiar with gliders and secondly they are not interested in listening or learning about them but are very willing to sign you up as a new client. They seem to have a superiority complex (just my opinion).

Last night went well, they shared a grape and ate some mealies and a yoggie each. They are still not interested in any other fruits & veggies. I had a 50/50 mix of pedialyte and water which I gave to each with a syringe (what an ordel the first time round), I was giving them .25cc every 2 hours approx. Badger finally thought this was cool and would lay on his back willingly (after I wrapped him in a towel) and let me dote on him. Roxy was really good but didn't like being one her back and would take the fluid if I let her sit up. They are such angles and so well behaved and are putting up with me bugging them all the time.

I'm at work right now, but have all necessary supplies and will have to sneak off every so often and feed. But I'm feeling a lot more at ease and not so panicky today. Still dissapointed with the vet, but know that with all the wonderful advice and support from my glider family and friends that they will be fine and well soon.
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#79500 - 01/25/06 10:18 AM Re: HELP..::Sore/Wound on Patagium::...?? [Re: ]
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No, I knew we weren't dealing with an SM yet..just that it could get there if infection were present. Isn't Bourbon amazing? Riker is alive after his bout with SM because of her.

I use woolite unscented on my glider's laundry, and the unscented/dye free softener..just some suggestions.

Keep us updated on your little one, tho! Us die-hard glider people don't just worry about our own little furballs, but every one else's, too.
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#79501 - 01/25/06 02:47 PM Re: HELP..::Sore/Wound on Patagium::...?? [Re: ]
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Jen, I discussed many things with her, and I also discussed the e-collar, she has one the vet made, but said she will make another "shot glass" style IN CASE she may need it, I questioned her regarding the pic.. she said she had examined the area very well and didn't see any spots, or nicks etc.. he has the fur off just where he is licking it..

I also told her she could ude the neosporin without a collar but not to use the neosporin pain without one. She is very interested in finding the cause, rather than just work on the symptoms.. so she has some work ahead of her..

Lorna, I hope you can keep us updated on his progress...
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#79502 - 01/25/06 04:51 PM Re: HELP..::Sore/Wound on Patagium::...?? [Re: ]
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A quick update before I finish work. I had brought a variety of fruits and snacks in here with me today and each of them quiet readily took and ate everything. They were also on such good behaviour for taking the juice mix from the syringe, Badger starting biting it when I wasn't squeezing it out fast enough. So I put some in a bottle cap for him and he wouldn't touch it (talk about spoilt and wanting to be waited on <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />)

I also got a quick look at the wound and it was dry and almost flakey, looks good from what I can tell. I had rubbed some peroxide on it last night with a swab of cotton wool and it lightly fizzed. That leads me to think that there was either some dead skin or something there that was not live. I don't think there was any puss or infection or it would have fizzed and bubbled more. I put some neosporin on it and held him for about 20 mins to let it soak in.

I will treat it agian that way when I get home. We haven't need any kind of pain meds. Bourbon did explain to me that they have very few nerve endings in the patagium (which I was unaware of)so that might explain why is not having pain issues and allows me to clean & treat the area.

I'm trying to come up with a game plan on how to go about finding out what caused this problem.... feel like I'll be looking for a needle in a haystack <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />. But I am determined to get to the bottom of the problem. I have not made a vet appointment and am willing to spend all the time it takes to treat and moniter them myself. If I find things are going downhill I will get them to a vet ASAP.

I feel so very fortunate to have found GC and all the people here. I can't find the words to thank you all for helping us through the confusion.

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