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#796420 - 06/19/09 11:49 PM Impact of too much protein
astronoc
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I am wondering what is the impact of too much protein in a glider's diet. I would like to know what the possible internal and external impact of feeding too much protein can have on a glider dunno Does anyone know?


Edited by astronoc (06/19/09 11:50 PM)

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#796632 - 06/20/09 03:00 PM Re: Impact of too much protein [Re: ]
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From my understanding, too much protein can harm the kidneys and liver. In humans it can cause something called ketosis which can damage the kidney and liver and is also related to osteoporosis. Too much protein can also make the glider gain too much weight. (Again, from my understanding). You can google 'too much protein in a diet' or something similar and all kinds of links will pop up explaining the possible harm that can come from too much protein in a diet (for humans).
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#797497 - 06/22/09 05:50 PM Re: Impact of too much protein [Re: sugarlope]
Jayne
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What is good for protein? All I can think of is shredded chicken or boiled eggs besides occasional mealworms. Is there anything else I can use?

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#797500 - 06/22/09 05:57 PM Re: Impact of too much protein [Re: ]
astronoc
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Chicken, Eggs, Turkey, and Meal Worms is what mine eat and like. They absolutely hated the crickets.

High Protein Wombaroo Powder is also a way to get them protein but I dont use that cause I am on a different diet.

I also gave them a 1 day old chick one time. That was a bad idea on my part..... it was messy to say the least and I had to give the cage a through out cleaning the next day. I swear to god I could smell it for like two days after that feeding. I can tell you this though... the little buggers jumped on it like there was no tomorrow and dragged parts of it all across the cage.


Edited by astronoc (06/22/09 05:59 PM)

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#797528 - 06/22/09 07:20 PM Re: Impact of too much protein [Re: ]
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I don't feed them to my gliders but some people do feed pinkies and fuzzies. Pinkies are 3 day old baby mice. Fuzzies are 4 days or older, I believe. I just never could bring myself to do it. Mine are on the HPW diet.
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#800112 - 06/28/09 10:07 PM Re: Impact of too much protein [Re: suggiemom1980]
caelainn
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I raise crickets and feed mine crickets as much or more than I feed mealworms. They sure have more fun catching them than the mealworms!

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#800128 - 06/28/09 10:31 PM Re: Impact of too much protein [Re: ]
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Feeder roaches are a good feeder insect/protein source as well as moths (wax moths and hawk moths are some that you can raise from feeder worms - do not catch wild hawkmoths as they can be toxic).
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#800150 - 06/28/09 11:37 PM Re: Impact of too much protein [Re: sugarlope]
Kilala
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I don't know if this applies to gliders but in mice too much protein can cause something called "hot spots" where their fur falls out and they get a bad rash and will self mutilate themselves. Again, I don't know if this applies to gliders but I wouldn't risk it.

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#800205 - 06/29/09 03:04 AM Re: Impact of too much protein [Re: ]
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too much protein causes hot spots in other animals! REALLY!
I honestly never knew that. My cat has hotspots on his beck end. took him to the vets and he prescribed steroids and never asked about diet. wonder if its his food? I recently added a couple times a week a high quality catfood. You know the type...no corn all organic. will take it away and see what happens


as for gliders...in the wild their diet has very little protein in it.
research it and see what you come up with...it's about 20% or less of their diet and very seasonal as well
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#802066 - 07/03/09 01:27 PM Re: Impact of too much protein [Re: JillMarie]
jungleflockmom
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20% protein is a fairly high protein diet. Much dog food is about that level. Gliders won't get hot spots from protein in their diet but too much long term protein is implicated in liver and kidney damage.

Cats are strict carnivores and require very high protein for their health. Their hot spots could have involved bacteria and or/fungus and/or an allergic response.

Some veggies and greens contain protein. Vegetable protein is another source for gliders.

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