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#824316 - 08/19/09 05:03 PM Gliderade Chemical Analysis
BabyLoveGliders
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As of 04/02/2007 received directly from Avico

Moisture 2.36 %
Protein 9.95 %
Crude Fiber 0.69 %
Cadmium <0.050 ppm
Iron 27 ppm
Zinc 74 ppm
Crude Fat <1.30 %
Ash 2.24 %
Arsenic <0.15 ppm
Cooper 36 ppm
Lead <0.20 ppm
Vitamin A - WRE 054 1450 IU/100g

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#824330 - 08/19/09 05:37 PM Re: Gliderade Chemical Analysis [Re: ]
LSardou Offline
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Registered: 03/01/06
Posts: 21060
Loc: Kansas
Thank you Chris, that's great information to have.

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#824382 - 08/19/09 09:07 PM Re: Gliderade Chemical Analysis [Re: ]
Tk86
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Originally Posted By: BabyLoveGliders
As of 04/02/2007 received directly from Avico


Ash 2.24 %
Arsenic <0.15 ppm
Cooper 36 ppm
Lead <0.20 ppm


Are you serious? Holy snickers, Do you happened to have the stats for Glider booster?

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#824388 - 08/19/09 09:14 PM Re: Gliderade Chemical Analysis [Re: ]
victoriarose1982 Offline
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Registered: 08/01/09
Posts: 2135
Loc: Seattle, Washginton, USA
Holy cow!!! No wonder my new gliders were so unhealthy when I got them. They were getting this stuff nightly for 4-6 months before I got them! Along with glider booster and exoticnutrition pellets (which were soaked in gliderade)!!!
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#824391 - 08/19/09 09:18 PM Re: Gliderade Chemical Analysis [Re: victoriarose1982]
victoriarose1982 Offline
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Also curius who is Avico???
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#824406 - 08/19/09 09:59 PM Re: Gliderade Chemical Analysis [Re: victoriarose1982]
sunnyjinxmom
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where and how did you get this information?

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#824421 - 08/19/09 10:50 PM Re: Gliderade Chemical Analysis [Re: ]
monluvspagen
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So is gliderade bad for them? I was lokng to get some for a treat once a week for my kiddo, but if it is terrible for them I won't.

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#824559 - 08/20/09 09:03 AM Re: Gliderade Chemical Analysis [Re: ]
BabyLoveGliders
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Quote:
Do you happened to have the stats for Glider booster?


Sorry I sure dont.. I was only doing Nectars.. I do have Wombaroos here http://www.glidercentral.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/824561#Post824561

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Also curius who is Avico???


Avico is the company that manufactures Gliderade for Exotic Nutrition, Brisky's, etc.

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where and how did you get this information?


I emailed Avico asking for the chemical breakdown and they emailed me their complete commercial information data sheet. If anyone is interested in a copy please email me babylovegliders@gmail.com


Quote:
So is gliderade bad for them? I was lokng to get some for a treat once a week for my kiddo, but if it is terrible for them I won't.



I would take a copy to your vet and have him/her give you their advise.


Edited by BabyLoveGliders (08/20/09 09:16 AM)

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#824885 - 08/20/09 09:02 PM Re: Gliderade Chemical Analysis [Re: ]
blockamon Offline
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Registered: 07/14/07
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Loc: Lynchburg, VA
Personally, I don't see anything that bad about the analysis. Copper is a nutrient in limited amounts, so that is probably why it is present at ppm levels.
"Ash" is a normal component of all food, it is essentially what is left after protein, carbs, and fat. All mineral content is ash.

While lead and cadmium are certainly not desirable, they are present in all sorts of foods. I could be wrong, but the values listed look like minimum detection limits (MDLs). If the values is listed as less than the MDL, that basically means that the lab couldn't find any. However, since they can detect less than the MDL, they can't certify the concentration as 0.

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#824896 - 08/20/09 09:33 PM Re: Gliderade Chemical Analysis [Re: blockamon]
monluvspagen
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Hmm... anyone else have advise??

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#824909 - 08/20/09 10:08 PM Re: Gliderade Chemical Analysis [Re: ]
the gliders angel Offline
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Registered: 08/08/01
Posts: 3059
Loc: u.s.a.
i havent used it in over 4 yrs and dont think i ever will since it is too high in sugar. a better choice nekton glider or pet pro chicken to keep in their cage for them to munch on.

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#824914 - 08/20/09 10:12 PM Re: Gliderade Chemical Analysis [Re: the gliders angel]
monluvspagen
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I was just going to give them some like once a week for a treat, but if it is going to harm them, then I won't.

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#825002 - 08/21/09 08:14 AM Re: Gliderade Chemical Analysis [Re: ]
BabyLoveGliders
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If you are second guessing Monika.. I always say go with your gut... if you are uncomfortable using this.. there are several other products you can look at.

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#825086 - 08/21/09 12:01 PM Re: Gliderade Chemical Analysis [Re: ]
monluvspagen
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What other products are like gliderade I can offer once a week?

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#825118 - 08/21/09 12:45 PM Re: Gliderade Chemical Analysis [Re: ]
CharmedSuggies Offline
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Registered: 10/27/07
Posts: 4273
Loc: Dayton, Ohio
Monika, check this thread out as an answer to your question

http://www.glidercentral.net/ubbthreads/...er_F#Post824321
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#825119 - 08/21/09 12:47 PM Re: Gliderade Chemical Analysis [Re: CharmedSuggies]
monluvspagen
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Thanks, but where can you order this lorikeet stuff?

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#825139 - 08/21/09 01:16 PM Re: Gliderade Chemical Analysis [Re: ]
Srlb Offline
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Registered: 10/30/03
Posts: 16743
Loc: St. Johns, Florida
Monika, before you order anything, you might want to print out what is in this and contact your vet and see what they think.

This is one of the things we often see in the community, people are too quick to just go along with someone without asking all the questions and seeking info on things for themselves.

Im NOT saying this is bad, all I am saying is instead of just saying ok I will use it, do your research, as Kris is doing, before using it.
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#825145 - 08/21/09 01:23 PM Re: Gliderade Chemical Analysis [Re: Srlb]
monluvspagen
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Peggy, you use to use gliderade, what do you think about the stuff in it? I do not know much about food and qualities, especially for gliders. I wanted to order some for them to have a treat once a week or so, just something different, I just all of a sudden read this and got scared frown

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#825157 - 08/21/09 01:45 PM Re: Gliderade Chemical Analysis [Re: ]
Dancing Offline
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Registered: 09/10/04
Posts: 22746
Loc: 80 acres of paradise in KS
I don't use glideraid, never have but...I'm confused.

People have been giving this to their gliders for years now. Why is it all of a sudden a concern? Is there a medical reason or suspicion for it being questioned at this point?
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#825161 - 08/21/09 01:50 PM Re: Gliderade Chemical Analysis [Re: Dancing]
Jen_S
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Teresa, I think the big concern is the arsenic, copper and lead listed in the ingredients that are posted in the first post. I have never used this either.

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#825169 - 08/21/09 02:01 PM Re: Gliderade Chemical Analysis [Re: ]
Dancing Offline
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Registered: 09/10/04
Posts: 22746
Loc: 80 acres of paradise in KS
Jen, I understand that but those things are found in most foods we eat in trace amounts. Does anyone know at what levels these things are actually harmful?
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#825182 - 08/21/09 02:16 PM Re: Gliderade Chemical Analysis [Re: Srlb]
Gossamer Offline
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Registered: 11/22/06
Posts: 1667
Loc: Long Island, NY
I totally agree with Peggy. I'm interested in the Lorikeet nectar because it is suggested as a treat in the diet plan I am following. Glideraid is mentioned in some of the diet plans also. You should just stick to whatever the diet plan is you are following.
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#825280 - 08/21/09 05:59 PM Re: Gliderade Chemical Analysis [Re: Gossamer]
BabyLoveGliders
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Guys.. I did NOT post this information to cause panic, to say it's good or to say it's bad! I posted it because we as a community have NEVER gotten it before.. We have been "told" that it has good vitamins and minerals.. including calcium. As you can see it does not. It is used in many diets and therefore should be looked at, just like we look at anything we give to our gliders. If anyone is not comfortable feeding it based solely on the ingredients there are other things to replace it out there.

Monika, I dont think anyone is going to tell you weather to use it or not.. again.. take the copy to your vet and ask his opinion.. look at the other nectars available, print those out and let him see and give you his thoughts on each.

Again.. I am NO ONE to say it's good or bad.

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#825281 - 08/21/09 06:01 PM Re: Gliderade Chemical Analysis [Re: ]
BabyLoveGliders
Unregistered


Quote:
Does anyone know at what levels these things are actually harmful?


I do not believe in anyway these levels are harmful.. however I do have an appointment at the water board to find out where the break is.

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