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#84667 - 02/23/06 04:18 PM How did GC start?
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Registered: 07/11/05
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Loc: Peoria, Illinois
Was wondering if I could get a brief history lesson on GC? How many owners are there? Who started GC.. and any information about its formation would be very interesting to me. Thanks!
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#84668 - 02/23/06 04:33 PM Re: How did GC start? [Re: ]
cyndiekb Offline
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4 score and many moons ago....................I don't know but some of the OLDER members will see and answer your question lol.
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#84669 - 02/23/06 04:42 PM Re: How did GC start? [Re: ]
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Registered: 02/22/03
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Understand that this isn't all of the history, but from what little I know, the need was seen to have a place where glider owners could get together and communicate regarding our little furbuts, and sharing thoughts on important issues, and helping each other, since each person's experiences are different. Having several viewpoints on a subject can solve a problem much more effectively than a single one...say a book. I think thavens would be best suited to answer you in a comprehensive manner, tho-I do believe he's been here from the get go. Tom??
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#84670 - 02/23/06 04:42 PM Re: How did GC start? [Re: ]
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well they have got to hurry, the general and misc. is going bye bye in 8 hours lol.
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#84671 - 02/23/06 04:49 PM Hey Kim, How did GC start? [Re: ]
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Tom wasn't actually one of the origonal memebers. I think Kim actually knows a lot about the origins of GC and has been here since very near the begining...

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#84672 - 02/23/06 05:08 PM Re: Hey Kim, How did GC start? [Re: ]
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Sugarglider.net started off as Clara Clasens project. She started off with a small forum on her angelfire site.
( http://www.angelfire.com/tx/facehugger/sg.html ) I started posting there back in 1998 and something came up to where she almost banned me. LOL Then we became friends and connected with more sugar glider owners. She felt a need to get a larger forum and so she created sugarglider.net and started work on Glider Central. You see the GC logo glider? That is actually made from Claras glider, Ryder. Not Facehugger, as was believed. Compare: Ryder ( http://www.angelfire.com/tx/facehugger/images/pouch.jpg ) Anyhow, Clara was member number 1, her boyfriend "mite" was number 2, and I was number 3. Then the forum had some issues and things got screwed up..anyhow. So that was the beginning. I believe Claras mom was very ill with cancer(I think) and she didnt have time to manage Glider Central and had to sell it to Ellen and Tom. I dont know all of the stuff that happened with Ellen and she could fill ya in. Anyhow I miss Clara so much I think Id give my left arm(sorry, I need my right arm to work) to hear from her.

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#84673 - 02/23/06 05:14 PM Re: Hey Kim, How did GC start? [Re: ]
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Thank you Kim <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I remember you talking about Clara, so I thought you would be the right person to direct to this post... I wish I would have been around a couple years soon and had the chance to meet Clara myself.

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#84674 - 02/23/06 05:15 PM Re: Hey Kim, How did GC start? [Re: ]
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Clara made the most awesome carry pouches Ive ever seen. I keep bugging my friend to give me mine back. Id kill for another one. Ive had mine since like 1999 or so and a couple years ago let my friend borrow it.

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#84675 - 02/23/06 06:31 PM Re: Hey Kim, How did GC start? [Re: ]
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That is just amazing, Kim!

Mikey <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dance.gif" alt="" />

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#84676 - 02/23/06 06:37 PM Re: Hey Kim, How did GC start? [Re: ]
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Registered: 08/05/99
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Loc: Virginia Beach, VA.
Kim is right. Boy what a memory! But Clara's Mother died and she had more than she could handle and ask that I take over the board. I accepted as I had been here for a loooooog time. At that time since I am so computer dumb I ask Lucy to come on as Administrator to help and handle the tech things. Then Tom came on and with his huge amount of experience of computers and his past history of work he was made Techincal Administrator. A while after that Lucy left and I ask Tom if he would become Co-Owner of GC. He has been handling all of the Tech things and is now working with Eddie for help.

Clara was and is a great person and I love her very much. She has gotten out of gliders and everyday when I see little GC I think of her.

We had some very long talks before I took the board and she asked me to promise that it would go on as she had wanted it to and that was that it would remain a G rated board and flaming and bashing would NOT be tolorated under any conditions. I have been doing all I can to keep my word to her. Thus, this is why we now have to take "stock" and do what we are having to do at this time.

I will tell you and I am SURE Kim will back me up (also Bourbon) that Clara had no problem with banning anyone that started trouble or would not go by the rules of the board. She also put alot of faith in her Mod's and I do too..
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#84677 - 02/23/06 08:25 PM Re: Hey Kim, How did GC start? [Re: ]
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Here is Clara..I just found her pic!


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#84678 - 02/23/06 08:27 PM Re: Hey Kim, How did GC start? [Re: ]
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</font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />

I will tell you and I am SURE Kim will back me up (also Bourbon) that Clara had no problem with banning anyone that started trouble or would not go by the rules of the board. She also put alot of faith in her Mod's and I do too..

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All spoken in truth. Clara nearly banned me from her old forum in 1998 for calling someone I knew was up to no good, "evil". She wouldnt even tolerate that. After I explained why she banned the other person that was up to no good and became my friend.

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#84679 - 02/23/06 08:38 PM Re: Hey Kim, How did GC start? [Re: ]
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Registered: 08/05/99
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Loc: Virginia Beach, VA.
Kim, that's so cool. She was really young then, Someplace I think I have a picture of her right before she gave me the board. I will try and find it for you. SHe looks very different. Still lovely.
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#84680 - 02/23/06 09:31 PM Re: Hey Kim, How did GC start? [Re: ]
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Oh, she's beautiful... I didn't realize she was so young. It's a pitty she no longer has gliders <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

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#84681 - 02/24/06 09:32 AM Re: Hey Kim, How did GC start? [Re: ]
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wow! That really makes you think and put things into perspective about this site.
She was a pretty lady. I hate I never had the chance to meet her either.

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#84682 - 02/24/06 11:20 AM Re: Hey Kim, How did GC start? [Re: ]
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Yeah, Clara is awesome. I wish everyone could have met her. Anyhow, I still get memories from back when GC had its first 2 subsections on the forum and Clara would always ask me my opinions on her designs and ideas before it went public. Back in the day when we used to talk over ICQ. heh

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#84683 - 03/08/06 07:51 PM Re: Hey Kim, How did GC start? [Re: ]
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[:"blue"]I bought my very first container of Herptivite from her and my first glider wheel, too. She doesn't get nearly enough credit for what she has done for the glider community. I wish she was still around!! [/]

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#84684 - 03/08/06 08:14 PM Re: Hey Kim, How did GC start? [Re: ]
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Registered: 03/25/00
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" /> [:"blue"] Randy. Good to see you again. [/]
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#84685 - 03/08/06 08:40 PM Re: Hey Kim, How did GC start? [Re: ]
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" /> Randy!!! Good to see you again! Please stick around! I have always enjoyed your posts!


Jen

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#84686 - 03/08/06 08:43 PM Re: Hey Kim, How did GC start? [Re: ]
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Just out of curiosity, how long has it been since Ellen took over the board from Clara?

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#84687 - 03/08/06 09:36 PM Re: Hey Kim, How did GC start? [Re: ]
Lucy Offline
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Registered: 02/14/01
Posts: 7354
Loc: Lexington, KY
It was the fall of 2001.
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#84688 - 03/09/06 11:24 AM Re: Hey Kim, How did GC start? [Re: ]
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/offtopic.gif" alt="" />This is way off topic, but it is so cool to see Randy on here and hear about some of the other original members. I've been reading the archives in Best of the Board and I'm up to page 117 of 160. For all of the other newbies out there, go read them! I've learned so much and it really helps you realize just how far suggie knowledge has come in a relatively short period of time. Plus, you get to see some of the very, very early posts from some of our very own mods!

Krissa

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#84689 - 03/09/06 02:02 PM Re: Hey Kim, How did GC start? [Re: ]
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Loc: 80 acres of paradise in KS
Hi Randy, good to see you back!
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#84690 - 03/09/06 05:36 PM Re: Hey Kim, How did GC start? [Re: ]
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Registered: 04/01/99
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you know, I remember a time when we couldn't shut kim up, now..she only tells part of the story..

going back to the very beginning.. glidergossip was one of a few boards that we could go to and post. then the owner of Sugarglider.com was going to sell the domain name and site.. he started by putting it up for auction. a group of us got together and decided we would try to buy sugarglider.com and sugarglider.net as well as sugarglider.org. and we were going to create an awsome site that would interlink all websites pertaining to gliders that were current, active and had good info.. we got started with the plans, and a group of us as I said were commiting ourselves to a portion of the costs, not to exceed 1000.00 for a total price. the people involved in this endevour was.. Myself, Clara, Betsy, Jane, Maria, and Kim I know I am missing a few others and Kim could probably help me out there.. it has been a long time ago. anyway we talked to the owner of sugarglider.com and told him what we had wanted to do with the domain, it was supposed to be a central place for information. a central hub per sae. That we were afraid a big breeder was going to buy it. and commercialize it. We were really hoping that he would donate it back to the gliders. well he liked the idea so much he decided NOT to sell it, but to allow us to manage it , run it, revamp it.but he would still maintain control of the domain, and server.

Off to work we went, Clara was trying to find a message base that was big enough and much diferent than the old wwwboard that they had. She was to house the message base and the resource page. the rest of us got started on the site areas.. hence where sugargliderinfo came from, it is a collaborated site that many many people worked on to create pages for, and interlinking the many sites.it was a community that was meshing, working together.

Clara found the ubb board hence where GliderCentral came from (that was what we were going to name the whole site.) all was well and good, and we started xfering the pages, to sugarglider.com.. since we already had sugarglider.net and sugarglider.org.. and we were working with sugarglider.com we had all of our bases covered..

UNTIL.we all got locked out of the FTP, our passwords no longer worked, and we were not able to get into the site.The owner of sugarglider.com had an issue because we uploaded the klubertanz catalog (in a section where we were telling peole where to get supplies to build the cages. he said we were commercializing it, did it without his permission and shut us all down. then Eric started running Glidergossip. We tld him the info was ours and we wanted it back, and that he did not have our permission to continue to use it. hence why the sites pretty much stayed separate, because Claras forum was used on her server, and the other sites werespread out in everyone elses.. She started having problems as was stated .. and the rest is there. The realstories forum was a reach out for that interconnection between the realstories site, and the community. the owners used to post their medical stories there and then they were xfered to the realstories site. many things have happened.. but the realstories foum, turned into a death site. not it's original intention at all. I have asked Ellen if she would change the name of it, to go with the rainbow bridge.. she said we would discuss it later. so I am patient. The state laws page was another interlinking to the state restrictions page. they used to link to the sounds page, all of these pages were built by the glider community. the realstories was stories that owners wrote..the state restrictions page many of us worked on that page to inform others about the laws, who to contact etc.. the sounds page again was all donated by many many owners.

I guess now would be as good of time as any.. to tell everyone that WE are continueing with the plans we started almost 10 years ago.. a large group of us is working on a new site (site name with-held till it is all together.) that will again fall into the dreams and plans of yesterday to have a central hub, a central place for glider information.That will interlock all sites and promote the unity within the community.

It is being set up to where everyone has a voice. and all of the community can be actively involved in the education and unity.

the creation of GliderCentral was a collaborted effort of many, many people. the work that went into the sites to build the unity was shared by all of the people of yesterday.. us old timers.
here is the credits page from sugargliderinfo.com
this was written in may of 2001 after ruth and I merged as part of the collaboration.
http://www.sugargliderinfo.com/credit.html

kim. kim, kim, was just a child then.. she had so much to learn.. but she was as dedicated as the rest of us..
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#84691 - 03/09/06 06:01 PM Re: Hey Kim, How did GC start? [Re: ]
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Wow, lots to take in. I sure am glad GC is here, however it happened ( :

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#84692 - 03/09/06 07:02 PM Re: Hey Kim, How did GC start? [Re: ]
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Loc: Cornersville TN I'M HOME :)
Ohh B I can't wait! I know what is going on and I look forward to the gliders first agenda we all have set in to motion.
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#84693 - 03/09/06 07:41 PM Re: Hey Kim, How did GC start? [Re: ]
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Wow that was a GREAT read B, although Im feeling a little sad and missing some of the old days. Seriously missing Diana Barlow, Jane(Id give a weeks sleep to have her tell me I finally proved myself to her 9 years later), Clara, Kacey, Connie, etc. I still remember the first night I talked to you, the first pic you sent me, the homeschool talks with you and my mom, etc. *sigh* I am excited about these new plans you speak of.

Mods, please can this thread be moved to the best of board forum when its no longer active? It would solve the problem of people asking this every 6 months.

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#84694 - 03/10/06 12:35 AM Re: Hey Kim, How did GC start? [Re: ]
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You bet ya KIM. This is a good site and I love it.

Mods's when this is done please move it to Best of the board forum.

We have come along way since then and hope we can keep up with what is best for the glider.
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#84695 - 03/14/06 10:35 PM Re: Hey Kim, How did GC start? [Re: ]
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WOW!!!!! GC really has a history!!!!

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#84696 - 03/15/06 01:07 AM Re: Hey Kim, How did GC start? [Re: ]
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This is all so great!
I am so lucky to be part of such a great community. ^_^
Good people is what makes a good forum. And I am really happy you guys keep it G. No reason for hate when we all of the sugies, right?!
BTW...you guys are now stuck with me forever!!


Edited by LissaJane (03/15/06 01:09 AM)

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