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#866762 - 11/14/09 07:08 PM Sugar Glider Seizures?
konotashi Offline
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Registered: 08/17/07
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Okay, obviously a sugar glider that has a seizure needs to be taken to the vet.

HOWEVER. What does the vet do for a glider that has seizures triggered by something?
I'm looking for seizures triggered by excitement, in particular.

Do you get medication for it? X-rays? Bloodwork? Gradually working up to a certain point so that the glider doesn't get TOO excited to have a seizure again?
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#866774 - 11/14/09 07:24 PM Re: Sugar Glider Seizures? [Re: konotashi]
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My little Gizmo has seizures if she gets to excited. It was determined that her blood sugar drops and she has a seizure because of low blood sugar. We give her glucose or honey and she snaps right out of it.

A veterinarian would need to determine if this is that gliders problem. For Gizmo we make sure that she has a little breakfast if she is going to be making appearances and is asked to glide. She is my outreach glider.
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#866795 - 11/14/09 08:24 PM Re: Sugar Glider Seizures? [Re: Feather]
konotashi Offline
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I'm trying to get her to take her to the vet, but for some reason, I don't think she's going to be seen by one....

Does rubbing honey bring them out of any seizure, or just hypoglycemic ones?
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#866842 - 11/14/09 09:33 PM Re: Sugar Glider Seizures? [Re: konotashi]
Janie Offline
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Registered: 03/03/08
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Thats a shame, a glider with seizures really needs to see a vet. There a many causes.

I had a female suggie that was having seizures and it was caused by low calcium and something to do with her nursing joeys. The vet prescibed a Calcium supplement and she did fine after that but we neutered her mate after that happened. Her Calcium levels went back to normal after the joeys weaned and she has not needed Calcium supplements since. (The vet did bloodwork to determine cause)

I hope the glider gets seen and is ok.
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#866849 - 11/14/09 09:46 PM Re: Sugar Glider Seizures? [Re: Janie]
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The honey or glucose will only help a glider having seizures from low blood sugar. This glider really needs to be evaluated by a veterinarian.
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#866854 - 11/14/09 10:02 PM Re: Sugar Glider Seizures? [Re: Feather]
konotashi Offline
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I asked her if she made an appointment for her to be seen. She said she was too busy to schedule one. frown

I think I scheduled Atreyu's vet appointment when I was at Wal-Mart, and it took me about two minutes. Hm.
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#867028 - 11/15/09 11:18 AM Re: Sugar Glider Seizures? [Re: konotashi]
Jackie_Chans_Mom Offline
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Registered: 05/01/07
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Loc: Texas
Here is the information I posted on seizures quite a while ago:

There are several reasons a glider might have a seizure:
1) Dehydration
2) Illness/Disease
3) Neurological seizures
4) Hypoglycemia

Therefore, it is IMPERATIVE that any glider who experiences a seizure be seen by a vet.
A vet exam for a seizing glider should include tests for dehydration, infection and parasites as well as an overall physical exam and a review of diet and routine. In some cases, x-rays may be taken. It is NECESSARY that infection, illness, disease and dehydration be eliminated as causes of the seizure before a glider is labeled with epilepsy or seizure disorder.

Some gliders will seize if they become hypoglycemic. In these cases, it is important that the glider be offered healthy treats/food several times a day and prior to any out of cage time. A routine of food intake should be established and followed STRICTLY to ensure blood sugar levels do not drop. IF the glider does seize, you can offer a bit of kayro syrup or honey after the seizure passes to get blood sugar levels back up quickly. Do not offer anything until the glider is alert enough to swallow safely. A vet should be consulted and your diet and routine very closely analyzed to help prevent further seizures.

For Dehydration seizures - a vet should adminster sub-q fluids and possibly teach you to administer them for several days following. Make sure the vet tests for any underlying cause of the dehydration, as dehydration is often a SYMPTOM of a much larger problem. If the seizure was caused by dehydration, it should not recur once the dehydration is remedied. Be sure to monitor for dehydration closely.

For seizures caused by illness or disease - Again, have the vet treat the illness/disease. The seizures should not recur once the illness/disease is treated.

Neurological seizures - come in a variety of types and severity. Your vet will adivse you on courses of action for seizures.

I have 3 gliders that experience seizures now. One presents with hypoglycemic seizures. Two have neurological seizures which are most often triggered by fatigue, excitement or fear. With my glider who experiences the most seizures, we were able to identify the cause of the seizures to stress/anxiety. Therefore, I do not treat with any medication. Rather, I strive to eliminate all stress/anxiety from the glider's routine and environment (as much as I can). The difficulty with medication for seizures is that med levels must constantly be monitored through blood draws, which are risky in gliders and can facilitate a seizure themselves.

My Mocha has had seizures for 3 years. Though I have been successful in decreasing the frequency of them, they do seem to be increasing in intensity when they do occur. Recently Mocha suffered an injury requiring him to be separated from his cage mate to heal. This has resulted in so much stress and anxiety that his seizures have been very frequent and very severe. He once had 13 in one day. frown

What does a seizure look like?
Sometimes it will look like the "freeze" as I call it. The glider becomes completely still and may stare off. The difference in this and the freezing they do when scared is that during a seizure, they will not react to you. You can touch them or move them or pick them up and their body posture will not change and they will not react to you. Also, they loose grip and may fall.

Other times, it will look like twitching and jerking, maybe foaming at the mouth, maybe loosing grip or maybe a very tight grip that CAN'T be loosened. Mocha's seizures started as noted above and now when he seizes, he gets a very tight grip that can't be loosened, his body tenses all over, he twitches and jerks and he foams at the mouth.

Seizures are very serious and should only be treated by a vet. Any glider that has seizures should be monitored regularly by a vet. I keep a seizure log for Mocha. I suggest this for all gliders that seize. The SUGAR group now has an ongoing seizure log/survey as part of our seizure research.
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