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#86740 - 03/06/06 08:01 PM feeding live rodents
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I bought my gliders a dwarf hamster from the pet store and my female didnt really care to much about it so I put my male in a seperate smaller cage with the live hamster and he grabbed it by the head and crushed the hamsters skull with his teeth/jaws... I didnt know that gliders had such stronge, powerful jaws. He ate its head, skin, and some of its insides but he got full after about an hour of eatting so I threw the rest of the carcass away. I think I will continue to give him rodents (hamsters, mice, baby rats) about every month or so. I have pics if anyone wants to see them just PM me cause they are pretty grousome. I had to leave the room while he ate it because it was to much for my stomach to handle but I did hear it when he crushed the skull, the hamsters eyes bulged and everything, but the hamster didnt suffer, Duke grabbed him and killed him so fast that the hamster didn't even know what hit him and he didnt even make a sound. Well that was my experience with feeding live rodents. Its very enriching for the gliders to catch their own prey and it was an educational experience for me to watch him kinda watch his prey and wait for the right moment and then to strike, it was very amazing because he is 1 year old and has only had pinky mice and never anything alive.


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#86741 - 03/06/06 09:47 PM Re: feeding live rodents is gross lol [Re: ]
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A dwarf hamster?
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#86742 - 03/06/06 10:07 PM Re: feeding live rodents is gross lol [Re: ]
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#86743 - 03/06/06 10:25 PM Re: feeding live rodents is gross lol [Re: ]
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#86744 - 03/06/06 11:43 PM Re: feeding live rodents is gross lol [Re: ]
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I own dwarf hamsters to but this one was bought from a petstore so it wasnt a personal pet.

And yes sugarblossoms you read correctly, a dwarf hamster. I actually perfer to give them rather then a pinky.

tbull - the hammie didnt suffer, it was all over real quick.

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#86745 - 03/06/06 11:44 PM Re: feeding live rodents is gross lol [Re: ]
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I actually encourage people to try a dwarf hamster rather than a mouse, dwarf hamsters dont have long tails and they arent as mean... the dwarf hamster didnt bite my glider or even harm him one bit when my glider was sniffing him and checking him out, I know some mice arent mean but I have seen some gliders get nasty bites from mice so I would rather stick with a hamster.

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#86746 - 03/07/06 01:33 PM Re: feeding live rodents is gross lol [Re: ]
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I'm Appalled! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/needhug.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" />

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#86747 - 03/07/06 02:16 PM Re: feeding live rodents is gross lol [Re: ]
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I just do not have the constitution to offer live… I will stick with the frozen pinkies… as Mikey noted … the circle ….
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#86748 - 03/07/06 03:13 PM Re: feeding live rodents is gross lol [Re: ]
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Oh goodness....

So, next question being:

How old should a glider be before offering a pinky, hamster or otherwise?

AND...

You get pinky's frozen...do you thaw them 1st then serve or....?!?! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nixweiss.gif" alt="" />

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#86749 - 03/07/06 03:44 PM Re: feeding live rodents is gross lol [Re: ]
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Never a pretty topic...

I used to give live pinkies to my kids every so often. It doesn't bother me, but they seem to like mealies better! I still pick one up as a treat every now and again, but I usually stick to only giving pinkies to my sto.
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#86750 - 03/07/06 08:24 PM Re: feeding live rodents is gross lol [Re: ]
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BABsnooky2 - Im not sure how old they need to be. I didnt thaw mine out before I served them and my male at them right up.

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#86751 - 03/07/06 09:25 PM Re: feeding live rodents is gross lol [Re: ]
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Ok, so you have dwarf hamsters as pets, but weren't "attached to this one" so it was ok....sighs... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nixweiss.gif" alt="" />

I saw a fuzzy little dog in the middle of the road today, but it wasn't my pet dog, so I sped up and smashed him with my car...but it was over real quick, and the vultures got a meal??!!!!

Sorry, just my two cents, I don't understand the thrill of killing a poor innocent hamster, oh well

(PS I have owned hamsters for years, and was just saddened because you seemed to be gleeful about the whole thing!)

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#86752 - 03/07/06 10:27 PM Re: feeding live rodents is gross lol [Re: ]
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I wasnt all "gleeful" about it, I was glad that my furbaby enjoyed his meal thats all.

I didnt get a thrill from killing the hamster, and I didnt kill it. I left the room while Duke ate his fill.

We all have different opinions on things and I made the choice to get him a hamster and so I did and he enjoyed it, so thats that... I didnt "enjoy" anything about it, its basically the same as feeding a mouse or a baby rat IMO... I've had both mice and rats as pets before and I would feed them to any of my pets if they would benefit from it.

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#86753 - 03/07/06 11:51 PM Re: feeding live rodents is gross lol [Re: ]
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To each his own, I have also have had rats and mice and don't feel the need to subject one of my pets to cruelty even if it does benefit the other, you are saying that if it would benefit my dog I should feed him my sugar glider??!! I understand your point but it upsets me that you say you keep
them as pets, define pet...a pet is something you protect etc...in my eyes hamsters, since i had hamsters as pets I just find it cruel and unecessary, to each his own of course, I just found it odd that you have hamsters as pets and you are feeding them, whatever though...continue on...I have to go feed my glider to my dog now, because I think it will benefit him, dogs are carnivores after all!

(This was not meant to be literal, dear lord please no one think I would EEEEVVVVVEEER do that <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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#86754 - 03/07/06 11:53 PM Re: feeding live rodents is gross lol [Re: ]
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PS...I was referring to gleeful because of ur description, and that fact that you offered pics to those who pm you, like it was sport or something.

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#86755 - 03/08/06 12:30 AM Re: feeding live rodents is gross lol [Re: ]
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If u think I have fed my PETS to my gliders I have not, I was simply saying that I have HAD rats/mice in the past and I would/could go out tomorrow and buy a feeder mouse/baby rat and feed it to my gliders, I would NEVER feed one of my pets to my gliders. The hamster was BOUGHT from a petstore for the purpose of feeding it to my gliders, I did not feed one of my hamsters. I was not saying that I went and fed a PERSONAL PET to my glider this hamster was bought strictly for food and nothing else.

I only offered the pics to people who wanted to see them for the purpose of letting them know what they should expect because the people that PMed me were intrested to know what it would be like to feed live prey. I did not offer the pics to be like "look how cool it is, my gliders eatting a hamster"... the pics were for people to see how messy it is and what to expect and nothing more.

I am sorry if you are offended, that was not my intent... I was just letting people know what my experience was. Again you have your opinions and I have mine and I dont intend to change my mind about feeding live prey to my gliders. I did it for enrichment purposes, health wise, and to stimulate my gliders... in the wild they would capture and kill their prey so maybe once a month or so I will go and get a hamster/baby rat/mouse for my glider to enjoy... like I said before it benefits him alot.

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#86756 - 03/08/06 02:56 AM Re: feeding live rodents is gross lol [Re: ]
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Come on guys..back off her case. It was for eduational purposes and Ive done a very similar thing around 5-6 years ago. Most people didnt even know what a glider was, nevermind feeding prey animals. I set up a site that showed what eating a frozen/thawed mouse was like so everyone who wanted to know, could see.

http://www.geocities.com/gliderlove/Mousefeed.html

This page has been around forever and Ive never caught any flak for it so neither should she. Ive fed all kinds of live animals to my gliders. In fact, I feed my cat a prey model raw meat diet.

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#86757 - 03/08/06 03:57 AM Re: feeding live rodents is gross lol [Re: ]
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We also have hamsters as pets and have for over 35 years. This is the FIRST time in our lives here that we have ever heard of one being fed to another animal on purpose. Dwarf hamsters here are also pretty expensive as they ARE considered pets. Yes, to each their own but I too felt this was a gleeful type post as was mentioned above. As far as gliders eating hamsters in the wild, they don't. Many of us feel sick to the tummy reading this.

Many people do lots of things, it's when it's offered like this as a happy event along with pictures when it gets frightnening for some. I am one of the some. I realize pet shops sell feeder mice for snake food and other things but to actually WATCH a live animal being ripped apart and eaten by another animal, especially by a pet just seems morbid. This is my opinion that won't change either.
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My precious loves that left to quickly, Peanut, Katie
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God speed my precious angels. I love you. Mama.

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#86758 - 03/08/06 04:18 AM Re: feeding live rodents is gross lol [Re: ]
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</font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
This is the FIRST time in our lives here that we have ever heard of one being fed to another animal on purpose.

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Perhaps you missed all those news reports on Aochan(rat snake) and Gohan(dwarf hamster). Ill help:

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=1518131
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10903211/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4627950.stm

Its also fairly common to find dwarf hamsters for sale as snake food. I believe kingsnake.com has links to rodent feeder breeders that sell em.

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#86759 - 03/08/06 07:53 AM Re: feeding live rodents is gross lol [Re: ]
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But PETSTORES don't sell FEEDER hamsters...these are tame hamsters meant to be pets, the snake food mice are BRED as snakefood, not tame...not colored, etc etc

Sorry this just disturbs me. I know you are not feeding ur pet hamsters, I was just trying to understand how someone could feed one TYPE of their pet to another...runs of to feed neighbors cat to my DOG?

...hey, its not my cat...

Ok, starting now I will try with all of my heart not to come back and look at this thread.

To each his own, but I do find it cruel and unusually, its a hamster for gosh sake, a cute sweet cuddly hamster....

I think I will stick to mealies!!

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#86760 - 03/08/06 08:05 AM Re: feeding live rodents is gross lol [Re: ]
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Just because it came from the pet store does not meant it was a pet. Our pet store sells hamsters and pinkys that are not in the pet section for people to purchase to feed to their animals.

Although I could never stomach feeding live animals to my gliders, I understand why people do. It is enrichment and very much better back to nature and how they are in the wild. Every animal eats other animals for the most part.

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#86761 - 03/08/06 08:20 AM Re: feeding live rodents is gross lol [Re: ]
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You are all getting so sarcastic and upset <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shakehead.gif" alt="" />. If you don’t like what you are reading in this post why do you keep coming adding fuel to the fire.

I get upset when I read the real stories, so I simply don’t go there anymore. It’s easy, if you think the title of a post is something you will not like don’t read it.

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#86762 - 03/08/06 08:23 AM Re: feeding live rodents is gross lol [Re: ]
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#86763 - 03/08/06 09:18 AM Re: feeding live rodents is gross lol [Re: ]
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Chaungo1 - <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yelclap.gif" alt="" /> thank you! for the reminder i was reading through this thread and was going to do that myself!

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#86764 - 03/08/06 09:25 AM Re: feeding live rodents is gross lol [Re: ]
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#86765 - 03/08/06 10:01 AM Re: feeding live rodents is gross lol [Re: ]
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when did dwarf hamsters become tame? when i worked at the petstore they were the meanest little boogers we had. In fact when we had more deaths out of that cage than anything else. and I wouldnt touch one because they would always bite. of course i think hamsters are mean in general unless you get them young. also femalecheetah did point out that she left the room so she wouldnt have to see that. also WOW i didnt know they would eat rodents. i figured crickets and mealies sure, but rodents? arent rodent like as big as they are? remember im still new and havent seen one in real life.

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#86766 - 03/08/06 10:46 AM Re: feeding live rodents is gross lol [Re: ]
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</font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
But PETSTORES don't sell FEEDER hamsters

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> I worked in a pet store and if a hamster bit me I would sell it as food. I got bit alot by the drawf hamsters, yes they are more expensive but to some people it was worth it. People would also buy G-pigs and Rabbits for their snakes. I didn't like it, but if the snake doesn't eat he will die. It is the way of life. Sad but true.

Out in the wild gliders will eat small birds and rodents. I stick with the pinky mice though because they are already frozen <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Please lets not get all heated. Like someone said (kind of).. If you are not happy reading this then all you got to do is click onto a different thread.

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#86767 - 03/08/06 11:45 AM Re: feeding live rodents is gross lol [Re: RSXTC]
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Thank you for those that understand. And the petstore that I got the hamster at was family owned and did sell dwarf hamsters as food... I only paid $5 for the feeder hamster when the pet hamsters are $10. And like Gary B said I left the room, I wasn't sitting their watching it happen, I couldnt stomach it.

Gary B - dwarf hamsters are smaller then sugar gliders.

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#86768 - 03/08/06 12:48 PM Re: feeding live rodents is gross lol [Re: ]
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Ok...
The whole you feeding a hamster to a suggie doesnt bother me as much as you feeding a LIVE hamster to a suggie bothers me. I have fed a few pinkies to my suggies but i WILL NEVER feed anything that will bite back. Im sorry, but i just refuse to take that risk with one of my suggies, why take the chance, with an animal that you love so dearly, of him/her getting hurt rather severley, even a hamster will fight back rather viciously if being attacked. I dont care how stimulting it is for them! Gosh, i know snakes are great killers, but i still stun the mouse or feed frozen.thawes because the snake could get hurt by a scared mouse (ever seen how bad a rodent bite can actually be?) But take no offense, just my .02 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#86769 - 03/08/06 01:55 PM Re: feeding live rodents is gross lol [Re: ]
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offense not taken

I was suprised at how fast my suggie grabbed the hamster and killed it, the hamster didnt even have time to react so its safe to say that Duke didnt get hurt.

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