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#875029 - 12/01/09 08:13 AM Burning Candles or plug in's are dangerous
Srlb Offline
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So many times I have read over and over and over NOT to burn candles or use plug ins around your sugar gliders as it is dangerous.

I am here to say I have been burning candles IN the SAME room as my gliders along with using plug in's since I have had them and thank God, nothing bad has ever happened to them yet. Now mind you, I dont have the plug ins right next to their cage, or the candle burning right next to a cage, but they ARE in the same room.

Another myth, I believe. I have candles burning all the time in my house and when my store was opened I burned them in there with ALL my different animals I carried and nobody ever got ill from them or died.

I do NOT use the metal wick candles as I have never really trusted burning metal...but the plain wick candles...yep, you will usually always smell one burning here.

The latest one I am burning is a Febreeze Hawaiin Aloha candle and it literally smells like an everglade forest. You know like when you walk on a lot of freshly cut Christmas trees? Well if you want your house to smell like Christmas, go get this candle today!!
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#875044 - 12/01/09 09:38 AM Re: Burning Candles or plug in's are dangerous [Re: Srlb]
Chelsie
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I have only had my gliders for about a year, the whole time I have had a scentcy wickless candle in the same room. I have never had any issues with candles and my babies. I think this one is myth.

Thanks for the suggestion Peggy! I may have to try that one!I LOVE the smell(s) of christmas! smile

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#875047 - 12/01/09 09:47 AM Re: Burning Candles or plug in's are dangerous [Re: ]
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Same here Peggy, Ive been burning candles in the room for years and never had any problems at all!! Would love to remember where this one came from!
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#875049 - 12/01/09 09:53 AM Re: Burning Candles or plug in's are dangerous [Re: gliderdad79]
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Huh. 0.o Interesting! I've been wanting to put plug ins in my room for AGES now but ever since I heard they weren't good for the sugs, I haven't. Do you think it might just be certain ones or just something that got started because they're such small critters?

We used to burn candles and use plug ins around our guinea pigs all the time and still do around our parrot with no problems at all.
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#875054 - 12/01/09 10:02 AM Re: Burning Candles or plug in's are dangerous [Re: Kiiru]
sweethang888
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Maybe it started because guine pigs for sure cant handle plug inns. I had to learn that the hard way to, i thought it was a myth with them.. But you will be able to tell if they dont do well with it. Their eyes get real runny and swell up. I didnt know what was wrong with whiskers (my guine pig
) SO if any thing you could look out for signs like so. I think animals are like people, maybe they are allergic to certain smells like we are.

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#875057 - 12/01/09 10:08 AM Re: Burning Candles or plug in's are dangerous [Re: Kiiru]
eden
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Edited by eden (12/01/09 10:20 AM)

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#875116 - 12/01/09 12:12 PM Re: Burning Candles or plug in's are dangerous [Re: ]
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I have soy candles with natural cotton wicks that I will burn sometimes. You have to be very carefull burning candles around parrots as their lungs are so different than any other animal and a real strong scented candle can irritate their lungs or even kill them.

From a safety standpoint I would never, never use a plug in in my house. When I was active on the fire department as a first responder I received some fire training so I could go out with the guys on fire calls. We received several article about plug ins causing fires. Granted they may have been made "safer" since I was on the fire department. But anything that heats escential oils can cause a fire. It only takes one heating element in a plug in to be faulty and cause a fire.
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#875141 - 12/01/09 01:01 PM Re: Burning Candles or plug in's are dangerous [Re: Feather]
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I burn soy candles with cotton wicks as well in my house but not in the bedroom with the sugs ever.

I do use the plugs in every once in awhile but never near their cage

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#875144 - 12/01/09 01:04 PM Re: Burning Candles or plug in's are dangerous [Re: ]
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I burn candles (not metal wicks) and essential oils...they are softer smells, nothing strong as that bothers me
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#875262 - 12/01/09 04:32 PM Re: Burning Candles or plug in's are dangerous [Re: MizValorie]
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Well I must just have amazing healthy critters because I have burned my candles and used plug ins with both G-Pigs and my Parrot. Have a candle burning right now and it isnt affecting the parrot at all.

Could it be just the CLOSENESS of the candle burning could bother them or the smoke that comes off the candle?? I dont have my candles close enough to cause them that kind of harm and the plug ins were never right near the g-pigs, but they were in the same room??

I do know there was an article on the wire wick candles producing some kind of toxic fumes and that is why I choose not to burn that specific kind.

Now the plug in's being a fire hazard...Ive not thought of that before, but I can see where it could be. Hmmm...maybe I will throw away my plug ins and just stick with my febreeze candles!! wink
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#875374 - 12/01/09 07:33 PM Re: Burning Candles or plug in's are dangerous [Re: Srlb]
eden
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Originally Posted By: Srlb
Well I must just have amazing healthy critters because I have burned my candles and used plug ins with both G-Pigs and my Parrot. Have a candle burning right now and it isnt affecting the parrot at all.


Unless you have had blood work and other tests done there is no way for you to know for sure that it is not affecting them. If you own a parrot you really should be aware of how their lungs function as it is very different from our own, as has already been said. Burning anything around a bird is dangerous and just because you can't see it harming your bird does not mean that it is not doing so and it certainly is not a guarantee that you will continue to be so lucky. As a fellow parrot owner who has known many birds who were either permanently affected or killed by fume inhalation, I am very concerned for the wellbeing of your parrot and urge you to be more careful and to educate yourself as to the fragility of their lungs.


Edited by eden (12/01/09 07:34 PM)

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#875383 - 12/01/09 07:42 PM Re: Burning Candles or plug in's are dangerous [Re: ]
Srlb Offline
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Eden, thank you for your concern, but I can assure you my parrot sees the vet EVERY three months mainly for a beak, nail and wing treatment and at that time gets an overall checkup. I have one of the BEST Avian/Exotic vets around. He has been in my store many a times and has seen me burning candles, and he is the one who confirmed my fear with the metal wicked candles and he also told me to NEVER keep my bird in the kitchen at ANY time while cooking.

As I stated, it is not like the candle is right next to the bird nor the gliders and they are not breathing in the fumes.

I have done MUCH research on every single animal that has EVER been in my care, whether it was one I was selling at my store or in my home as my family member and anyone that knows me can vouch for that.

Bloodwork on animals.... I wonder if there is ANYONE else here on the board that believes in it more...let me ask, how many times have you ever taken your gliders in for blood work and if you have what panels did you have run?
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#875437 - 12/01/09 09:34 PM Re: Burning Candles or plug in's are dangerous [Re: Srlb]
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Peggy probably has more bloodwork done in a year than most of us will ever have in our pets' entire life. LOL

I am one of the chickens, I threw out all my candles when I first read here that they would hurt my gliders.
Terrible to give them up, my hubby & I both were huge candle freaks & now we just sniff the new scents in the store & leave them sitting there on the shelf.

With this coming to to light I may have to run out & pick up some of the wonderful scents we ran across last Friday, heavenly.

Anyone got any good news about my Lysol spray. I also chunked those out when the gliders took over. Would love to have my germ killer back, with teenage boys you can't have enough Lysol to combat all the cooties they drag home! LOL
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#875493 - 12/01/09 11:02 PM Re: Burning Candles or plug in's are dangerous [Re: Trigger]
eden
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Peggy, I never accused you of not getting regular vet check-ups, in fact I never called into question the quality of medical care you provide at all. I stated that you cannot know what is going on inside your bird unless you run a tox screen or other similar procedure. What you see on the outside is not adequate for diagnostic evaluations. I applaud your dedication to providing exceptional care for your animals, I just feel concern when a posting advocates the use of something that has been proven to be harmful to pets. Candles are harmful is not a theory, it is proven fact. I have not seen sufficient evidence to convince me that there are any safe candles to use but that is my personal opinion, if you choose to use candles that are safer in your opinion then that is completely up to you, but it should be made clear in a thread that publicly advocates them that while some candles may be safer to use than others, burning them carries risks and the decision to use them should be a personal choice after all the risks are presented and understood.

Also, though I do not need to justify myself I assure you that every animal in my care also receives the absolute best care and regular veterinary attention from a clinic that specializes in avians and other exotics and I too place an extreme importance on the knowledge I have of each species within my home.

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#875498 - 12/01/09 11:08 PM Re: Burning Candles or plug in's are dangerous [Re: Trigger]
NavyChiefWife
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I am a HUGE candle lover too and I got rid of all my candles even my favorite apple Yankee candles. frown
I was so afraid of hurting my gliders. But now that more and more people are using them and not having issues I may have to look into it further. I would love to have my candles back! I miss my house smelling so yummy!

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#875502 - 12/01/09 11:13 PM Re: Burning Candles or plug in's are dangerous [Re: ]
suggiemom1980 Offline
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Registered: 03/05/07
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Loc: Vincennes, IN, USA
I stopped burning candles but do have scented ones just sitting around. That does give off a little bit of scent. I also have the bamboo sticks in scented oil, but like the candles, nowhere near my gliders. They're in the bathroom and kitchen. I wonder now, if the bamboo sticks in the scented oil could be dangerous?
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#876336 - 12/03/09 01:14 PM Re: Burning Candles or plug in's are dangerous [Re: suggiemom1980]
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I stopped using candles years ago because I am afraid if a glider got loose, they could get seriously injured by the flame/wax. Someone on here had a glider jump on one after the candle was out a bit but the glider had wax on it that was very hard to remove.
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#876356 - 12/03/09 02:10 PM Re: Burning Candles or plug in's are dangerous [Re: SugarBlossoms]
NavyChiefWife
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What about those cinnamon scented pinecones and decorative brooms? Are they safe?
Or the gel things that you just slide the too up and set it somewhere?

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#876358 - 12/03/09 02:17 PM Re: Burning Candles or plug in's are dangerous [Re: ]
BelladonnasMom
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I haven't stopped using any of my good smellin stuff because I have never seen and HARD evidence that they do harm. I have never used the metal wick candle discs sctrictly because they are made from galvanized metal and that in itself is dangerous. My brother is a welder and I have seen him with galvanized poisoning so many times over the years. I am just afraid that tiny bit of burning metal would do damage to such teeny delicate lungs. But candles... I burn them every day! Just not right up against the cage, and NEVER when there is a glider loose. Don't want burned babies frown

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#876360 - 12/03/09 02:22 PM Re: Burning Candles or plug in's are dangerous [Re: ]
BelladonnasMom
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Originally Posted By: NavyChiefWife
What about those cinnamon scented pinecones and decorative brooms? Are they safe?
Or the gel things that you just slide the too up and set it somewhere?


I use all of them, I just don't let the gliders touch them thumb

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#876361 - 12/03/09 02:25 PM Re: Burning Candles or plug in's are dangerous [Re: ]
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I stoped useing candles when my cak Kujo decided to investigate and burnt off all his wiskers! OK I admit he was not a very bright cat! LOL He was fine though!

I do use the plug ins, but I do not think that it helps really. My boys sell by day two after a cage cleaning! LOL
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#876362 - 12/03/09 02:26 PM Re: Burning Candles or plug in's are dangerous [Re: ]
sweethang888
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They have those really cool fake candles.. It looks like a candle but its not. Its a smelly wrapper that smells wrapped around this square light and it flickers to look like a candle. It smells good but not to strong.

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#876418 - 12/03/09 05:16 PM Re: Burning Candles or plug in's are dangerous [Re: ]
maakea2007
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We have used the glade plug-ins the ones with the fan and use it on the lowest setting and it has never bothered our little guys! We have also taken them to the vet numerous times and the vet came to our house and never said anything. So, I don't know!!
For obvious reasons candles should be used under supervision but I don't see a problem with them either as long as they are a safe distance away from cages and make sure they are not lit while the gliders are out of course. I will look at those links though as I have never heard of issues with using plug-ins or candles causing health problems.

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#876670 - 12/04/09 09:34 AM Re: Burning Candles or plug in's are dangerous [Re: ]
Chelsie
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I have been using Scentsy burners for a long time now. They are not the same as candles, and have been tested safe for all humans and animals!

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A wickless candle, called a Scentsy Bar or a Scentsy Brick, is a highly fragrant wax bar that is warmed to release fragrance into the air. Because the wax is gently warmed rather than burned, it can hold more fragrance oil than a traditional candle. And, because there is no flame, there is no smoke, soot or lead. Scentsy wickless candles are a safer alternative to traditional candles.


I know this thread is about candles, but I wanted to share that this is what I have been using and I LOVE them!

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#876683 - 12/04/09 10:15 AM Re: Burning Candles or plug in's are dangerous [Re: ]
chelsea21212003
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Originally Posted By: Chelsie
I have been using Scentsy burners for a long time now. They are not the same as candles, and have been tested safe for all humans and animals!

Quote:
A wickless candle, called a Scentsy Bar or a Scentsy Brick, is a highly fragrant wax bar that is warmed to release fragrance into the air. Because the wax is gently warmed rather than burned, it can hold more fragrance oil than a traditional candle. And, because there is no flame, there is no smoke, soot or lead. Scentsy wickless candles are a safer alternative to traditional candles.


I know this thread is about candles, but I wanted to share that this is what I have been using and I LOVE them!


Would this be the same as say a tart? That can be warmed in a warmer? Because this is what I am currently using to scent my home, and if they are safe, then I'll consider using them after I (finally) do bring home my babies! Interesting topic guys! I learn sooooo much on this forum!

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#876741 - 12/04/09 12:36 PM Re: Burning Candles or plug in's are dangerous [Re: ]
Chelsie
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I am not sure. I would send an email to the manufacturer to see what the tart consists of. If it is all natural then it would be the same. The warmer I have is a plug in warmer, it looks like a night light. Here is the web site so you can see:

http://www.scentsy.net/

they make great christmas gifts too! smile

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#876748 - 12/04/09 01:07 PM Re: Burning Candles or plug in's are dangerous [Re: ]
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Scentsy is actually a brand. They sell tarts, but that doesn't mean all tarts will live up to the Scentsy standard or guarantees, because other companies make tarts also. Each manufacturer has different standards.

The scentsy site is Scentsy
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#877010 - 12/04/09 09:06 PM Re: Burning Candles or plug in's are dangerous [Re: princessmegi]
monluvspagen
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uh oh, I use the bath and body works wall flower plug ins, I hope its not bad frown

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#877372 - 12/05/09 07:44 PM Re: Burning Candles or plug in's are dangerous [Re: ]
chelsea21212003
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Hmmmmmm this looks a lot like the same type of products that I use, except I use Yankee Candle tarts in a warmer... anybody know anything yea or nae about this brand?

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#877666 - 12/06/09 01:40 PM Re: Burning Candles or plug in's are dangerous [Re: ]
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The Scentsy warmers use a light bulb instead of a flame to heat the wax. So there is no soot or lead released into the air only fragrance.
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