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#87793 - 03/12/06 03:08 PM My Sweet baby holly is gone...
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This morning around 10 am I woke up got the bowls out of the gliders cages noticed that holly hadnt eaten anything. I opened up h er pouch, only to find a hole in the pouch, with strings around it. I check my pouches EVERY night, and this hole was NOT there last night. My poor baby was inside, strangled to death in her own bed. I purchased these pouches from glidermom102. Please be sure to check your pouches for loose threads..I have always been ontop of my pouches, and i'm still in shock this happened! I am crying my eyes out right now I cant beleive this happened to me she was sooo young too I got her no more then 3 -4 weeks ago and she was just starting to bond with me.
Please everyone Pray for Holly


Edited by KristopherDeRose (03/12/06 06:17 PM)

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#87794 - 03/12/06 03:17 PM Re: My Sweet baby holly is gone... [Re: ]
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That is horrible!!So sorry to hear this!! Sending prayers your way!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

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#87795 - 03/12/06 03:26 PM Re: My Sweet baby holly is gone... [Re: ]
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Oh gosh, I am sooooo sorry. That is just awful...if you don't mind me asking have you had problems with any other pouches...just a question from a new glider mom.

Sending you and poor sweet holly lots of luv, ...I am sooooo sorry for ur loss. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

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#87796 - 03/12/06 03:30 PM Re: My Sweet baby holly is gone... [Re: ]
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I will PM you!
Thanks guys this helps alot

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#87797 - 03/12/06 03:30 PM Re: My Sweet baby holly is gone... [Re: ]
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I am so sorry kris. This is such a horrible accident. Sending hugs your way. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" />

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#87798 - 03/12/06 04:15 PM Re: My Sweet baby holly is gone... [Re: ]
minkasmom Offline
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Registered: 11/08/04
Posts: 5965
Loc: Northeast Indiana
Ohmigosh, Kris, I'm so sorry to hear this happened!!!!

I make pouches for my fuzzies & some for other friends, and that is the #1 thing I guard against when I'm using any kind of material other than fleece! I learned a couple years ago when I had a fuzzy catch her foot in a frayed piece of material.....now ANY loose ends get zig-zagged down or simply folded over THEN zig-zagged down.

My heart is aching for your loss.
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#87799 - 03/12/06 04:26 PM Re: My Sweet baby holly is gone... [Re: ]
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I am horribly sorry about your loss. I just got Ping a week ago and I couldn't even imagine losing him. I'm praying for you and Holly. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

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#87800 - 03/12/06 04:37 PM Re: My Sweet baby holly is gone... [Re: ]
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Kris I am so sorry to hear about Holly. I am truely sorry it was one of my pouches that she got hurt in. I check all my pouches and they are glider safe and you said in your email to me that you checked it yourself and it was fine. These pouches are almost 7 months old. You have been happy with the pouches to this point. It hurts me to hear you call them cheap. I would never make a pouch or toy that was not safe for our gliders. I am hurt that you think I would. Any pouch that has been used and washed several times needs to be replaced at least by 6 months if not sooner. I would think with the order you were fixing to place with glidermom_pet_pouches you were happy with them. I can not control if a glider chews a hole in a pouch.

Again I am sorry this happened.


Edited by glidermom102 (03/12/06 04:47 PM)

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#87801 - 03/12/06 06:05 PM Re: My Sweet baby holly is gone... [Re: ]
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</font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
Kris I am so sorry to hear about Holly. I am truely sorry it was one of my pouches that she got hurt in. I check all my pouches and they are glider safe and you said in your email to me that you checked it yourself and it was fine. These pouches are almost 7 months old. You have been happy with the pouches to this point. It hurts me to hear you call them cheap. I would never make a pouch or toy that was not safe for our gliders. I am hurt that you think I would. Any pouch that has been used and washed several times needs to be replaced at least by 6 months if not sooner. I would think with the order you were fixing to place with glidermom_pet_pouches you were happy with them. I can not control if a glider chews a hole in a pouch.

Again I am sorry this happened.

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I was not saying that it was your fault or anything just saying it was the fault of the pouch and not that its a bad pouch... Just she chocked on a string...

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#87802 - 03/12/06 06:18 PM Re: My Sweet baby holly is gone... [Re: ]
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If ANYONE thinks this is donnas fault dont because if I would have thought this would happen I woulndt have sold her my favorite joey I have produced..... And I talk to Donna on a regular basis... so this was NOT her fault!

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#87803 - 03/12/06 06:35 PM Re: My Sweet baby holly is gone... [Re: ]
SugarBlossoms Offline
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Registered: 02/23/06
Posts: 5830
Loc: USA
First, I am sad you lost your glider. That would be such a heartbreaking thing to go through.

I have had gliders get stuck or caught up in things other than pouches. Sometimes they get caught after the nails have been trimmed. I have gliders that will CHEW through anything and one that literally CHEWED UP a Stealth Wheel.

I have several pouches from glidermom102 that I've had for awhile and have been washed MANY times. NOT ONE of them has a loose string. They are exceptionally well made.

I have also met Donna in person, she is the sweetest most caring person and all her gliders are well taken care of, not to mention TAME and spoiled rotten with LOVE. She is a person that goes out of her way to help anyone.

Since you checked the pouch and no strings were there that day, it sounds like she may have been a chewer since there was a hole there? This is so sad, one thing to consider with gliders that like to chew is the plastic nest boxes such as the apple etc. They can still chew them to a point but wouldn't be able to get caught up in them.

Accidents happen, I had a glider get caught up in a curtain of all things the other night and was twisted so bad I had to cut the curtain into and work to free her. She is fine but just saying..I can't blame Sears. Also, there is much more to how this happened as there usually is in cases such as this.

KristopherDeRose, God speed to you and yours.
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#87804 - 03/12/06 09:06 PM Re: My Sweet baby holly is gone... [Re: ]
Lynsie Offline
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OMG Kris, I am so sorry, that is horrible. Many hugs to you <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />
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#87805 - 03/12/06 09:13 PM Re: My Sweet baby holly is gone... [Re: ]
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Sorry kris about your loss! Like lynsie said many hugs to you <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

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#87806 - 03/13/06 12:14 AM Re: My Sweet baby holly is gone... [Re: ]
queenduck Offline
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Registered: 03/06/02
Posts: 6249
Loc: Kansas
Kris, So sorry you lost Holly. I have two gliders in my home that are rescues, they both lost a leg in a pouch, had it not been caught sooner, they would have both died. I know several peole that will not use pouches for that reason. And I am a pouch maker. I do think the pouches are the best, but you have to know what type of glider you have, and be careful in what you buy. I am sure kne/did both, but, accidents can and do happen. I am so sorry for your loss.

I did want to say, you can make the best pouch, double stitch like I do, use good fabric, and if a glider is determined, they CAN chew through and they can die. It's a huge fear for me to see someone say my pouch caused a gliders death. It has never happende but I know it could. So I can understand her panic when she read that.

I have never used her pouches, or seen one, but know that there is no perfect pouch and the only way to keep a glider from never getting caught in one, is to not use them at all. Judie uses containers with fleece scraps, which, is not a bad idea. Glidermom, sorry you have to go through this too.

Good luck to you both. Again, so sorry to hear about Holly.
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#87807 - 03/13/06 01:57 AM Re: My Sweet baby holly is gone... [Re: ]
glidrz5 Offline
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Registered: 06/13/01
Posts: 7297
Loc: Quincy, IL
Kris, I'm so very sorry for your loss.
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#87808 - 03/13/06 12:21 PM Re: My Sweet baby holly is gone... [Re: ]
Sheila Offline
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Registered: 02/05/00
Posts: 5363
Loc: Ok
This is not Donna's fault. I for one and very sad. I bonded with Holly before she left here a month ago. Nails were trimmed when she left. This baby did not get a nail caught up, but choked on string. With washings a tiny string can be pulled on by a glider and she probably pulled and pulled until she ate the thing up. I have called Donna and re-assured her that I do not blame her. I have advised her to put the seam on the side of the pouch, rather than the top. After two gliders climbing through the top, I had to change the design. It can happen to anyone. If you only have a couple of pouches per cage, get more so that they don't wear out as fast. The gliders are smart and particularly HOlly! She knew that there was a place to get through and play with strings. She is over the rainbow bridge. I commend Kris for checking his pouches every day cause I don't. I only check them once a week when changing them out. I am sorry Kris.. Holly was a wonderful little girl and I loved her so much. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />
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#87809 - 03/13/06 01:56 PM Re: My Sweet baby holly is gone... [Re: ]
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Thanks everyone she was such a great baby at first she was scared but she started to bond to me fast when she got settled in... Thank you sheila for giving me the call you gave me after you read my email about holly it helps me alot.

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#87810 - 03/13/06 02:11 PM Re: My Sweet baby holly is gone... [Re: ]
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Thank you to Sheila and Kris. I know both of you are trying to make me feel better but it is just a horrible thing. I hope everyone knows that I realy check my pouches before they leave here. I am so sorry that Holly had to pass.

I am glad we can get over this together. Breeding these little ones is a hard job sometimes exspecially when things like this happen.

My prayers are with you Kris and Sheila

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#87811 - 03/13/06 02:58 PM Re: My Sweet baby holly is gone... [Re: ]
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I am so sorry for your loss Kris. If anything good may come out of this...it teaches us to remember to check our pouches because we never know how fiesty and mischevious our babies may be. Praying for you and your family.

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#87812 - 03/13/06 03:14 PM Re: My Sweet baby holly is gone... [Re: ]
Dancing Offline
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Kris, I'm sorry about the loss of Holly.
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But I'd of had to miss the dance


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#87813 - 03/13/06 04:14 PM Re: My Sweet baby holly is gone... [Re: ]
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Oh Kris.. I'm soooo sorry to hear about Holly.. I was really excited about her for you. :'-( This seems to have been a bad year for gliders so far.. I really hope things get better, for everyone!

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#87814 - 03/13/06 04:24 PM Re: My Sweet baby holly is gone... [Re: ]
Anonymous
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Kris, I'm sorry to hear of your loss. You have my well wishes in coping with the loss of your baby.

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#87815 - 03/14/06 07:16 AM Re: My Sweet baby holly is gone... [Re: ]
Anonymous
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Thanks everyone its still hard.... Really upsets me she had to go such a tragic way...

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#87816 - 03/14/06 05:28 PM Re: My Sweet baby holly is gone... [Re: ]
Anonymous
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Just an observation I made this weekend.....I was sewing d-rings into my tent to hang toys from and noticed that my gliders would play 'attack' the string as I was sewing. They were MESMORIZED by it. I'm assuming then, that if one found a string, it would be like a dog with a bone and it wouldn't give it up. They sure can be persistant, but I will be checking all of my items tonight. I am so afraid of something like that happening. I know Kris isn't blaming Donna, but I can understand how Donna's initial reaction was to feel hurt by the post. It's just one of those things that can happen and it sucks. Plain and simple. My thoughts and prayers are with you both today.

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#87817 - 03/14/06 06:51 PM Re: My Sweet baby holly is gone... [Re: ]
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#87818 - 03/14/06 08:42 PM Re: My Sweet baby holly is gone... [Re: ]
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Kris, I'm so sorry to hear of your loss!! At the same time it is a really good wake-up call for the rest of us. I know I'm going to check my pouches more frequently now! Thank you for sharing with us and again I'm truly sorry for your loss.

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#87819 - 03/14/06 09:04 PM Re: My Sweet baby holly is gone... [Re: ]
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As I said I check my pouches daily and i did not notice anything it must have been a weird happening.... I dont know could have been I over looked it because the hole came threw the seem and so i dont know.... All I have to say is I miss holly and I wish she didnt have to go in such a tragic way...!

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#87820 - 03/14/06 09:17 PM Re: My Sweet baby holly is gone... [Re: ]
Anonymous
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aww i'm sorry for your lost but at last she's waiting for ya at rainbow bridge...

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#87821 - 03/14/06 10:04 PM Re: My Sweet baby holly is gone... [Re: ]
Anonymous
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I'm so sorry to hear about your loss. That's just awful, but it wasn't your fault at all. My babies chew EVERYTHING. They never stop, it's an addiction. Again, I'm so sorry for you

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#87822 - 03/15/06 11:11 AM Re: My Sweet baby holly is gone... [Re: ]
jmi Offline
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OH Kris i am so sorry I didn't read this until today.. I am sorry to hear about your loss... I know how much you love your gliders...But she is over there with lots of other gliders playing games and getting to know everyone there and will be waiting on you when you come home with to her and then you will have more time to play with her again..
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