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#884387 - 12/19/09 02:51 PM Mix & Match Diet Plan - questions
NGS
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http://www.babylovegliders.com/Diets.html

I found this diet on this web site.

would like everyone's opinion about this diet?

I am always looking for better ways to improve the care for our fur kids and would like to know what you think about this diet? Thanks


Edited by sugarlope (05/18/10 01:17 PM)
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#884402 - 12/19/09 03:31 PM Re: Would like to know everyones opinion Good or Bad? [Re: ]
josefine Online   content
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sounds pretty good to me,as I am also always trying my hardest to improve their meals.
talk 2 ya L8R
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#884406 - 12/19/09 03:44 PM Re: Would like to know everyones opinion Good or Bad? [Re: josefine]
Donnarae Offline
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It sounds like a good variety. My "kids" would probably like it.

I hesitate to go with any diet that the ingredients are specific brands of anything or too exotic. If I can't find it readily in the local market, that means I'd have to order it online. If substitutions can be made, that's great. I feed HPW now and know all about ordering and shipping charges.
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#884488 - 12/19/09 06:56 PM Re: Would like to know everyones opinion Good or B [Re: Donnarae]
CandyOtte Offline
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I found this diet to be more complicated than I like for things to be.

I developed my own Blended diet which is quick and easy to mix. If you are looking for other diet options you might want to look at this one also

http://gliderkids.com/BLENDED-GLIDER-DIET.html


Edited by OtteMom (12/19/09 06:58 PM)
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#884632 - 12/20/09 10:04 AM Re: Would like to know everyones opinion Good or B [Re: CandyOtte]
lovely1inred
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Several people have been feeding the Mix N Match diet with good result. At least one person switched to it because her gliders were rejecting both BML and HPW. I haven't gotten into it, but it looks good to me, I consider it another option among many for glider diet, which is good for everyone to have choices.

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#884637 - 12/20/09 10:14 AM Re: Would like to know everyones opinion Good or B [Re: ]
NGS
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For the people out there already using this diet,

can you tell me if your gliders have any smell or odors?

I read somewhere that if you are always mixing up the same thing and feeding it on a daily bases

that your gliders will have a musty smell but if you give them a variety of different foods they stay healthy and have hardly any smell at all.

Has anyone found this to be true with this diet?


Edited by NGS (12/20/09 10:15 AM)

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#884650 - 12/20/09 10:43 AM Re: Would like to know everyones opinion Good or B [Re: ]
Berg Offline
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Registered: 09/04/09
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I will second OtteMom's suggestion. We have been using her Blended diet almost since we have had our gliders. There is no odor with our gliders, and they like the diet and the variety of vegetables and fruit. We like because it is relatively easy to prepare and the ingredients are readily available, but you do have to order the HPW powder. As a side benefit (maybe from any good diet) they have very soft coats, much nicer than when we first got them.

We mix up a batch about once a month and we freeze it in ice cube trays. Candy (OtteMom) also has a diet/Nutrition calculator you can download. It makes it easy to track the Ca/Phosphorus ratio of everything you might want to feed them.

Variety is good for your gliders. The diet you linked to seems to have it.
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#884792 - 12/20/09 06:19 PM Re: Would like to know everyones opinion Good or B [Re: Berg]
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Have you asked Kris (BabyLoveGliders) any questions you have about it? It is her diet. dunno
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#884824 - 12/20/09 08:03 PM Re: Would like to know everyones opinion Good or B [Re: sugarlope]
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i think it sounds like a pretty good diet.

regards,
nancy in detroit
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#886762 - 12/27/09 01:02 PM Re: Would like to know everyones opinion Good or B [Re: hwh4ev]
NGS
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Thank you sugarlope, I sent her a pm asking some? smile

Thanks everyone smile


Edited by NGS (12/27/09 01:02 PM)

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#887022 - 12/28/09 10:07 AM Re: Would like to know everyones opinion Good or B [Re: ]
NGS
Unregistered


I am considering switching over to this diet but need more information about it first.

We are using the HPW now but I really like the idea of this diet

http://www.babylovegliders.com/Diets.html


it seems more natural and offers a great variety of foods for them so they are not always eating the same thing day to day.

How many people are using this diet?

How long have you been using this diet?

When did this diet start? When did kris post this as an option for us to use?

Are there any links talking about this diet?

How active are your fur kids on this diet?

How healthy are your fur kids with this diet?

Do your fur kids have any smell or odors with this diet?

Thank you for your help and time with these ? I have. smile

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#887130 - 12/28/09 03:31 PM Re: Would like to know everyones opinion Good or B [Re: ]
NGS
Unregistered


Where is everyone????????

I sent out a PM to Kris asking some questions but have not herd back yet, meanwhile I thought I would be able to get some good input from people already using this diet and what they thought.

I am wondering now if there are not that many people using this?

Thanks to everyone who has responed. I hope someone can show up on this and shine some light on this topic. smile

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#887135 - 12/28/09 04:25 PM Re: Would like to know everyones opinion Good or B [Re: ]
Srlb Offline
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I dont have any answers to your questions, but I will try to pass the word on so she can get it and know you are asking...
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#887136 - 12/28/09 04:32 PM Re: Would like to know everyones opinion Good or B [Re: Srlb]
ValkyrieMome Offline
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I know that Kris researched it TONS, and worked very closely with her exotics vet. I know that some of the ingredients have been shown to have healing effects, and health benefits.

I haven't tried it, because I simply don't have the money to order all the ingredients at this time. However, I did discuss it a bit with Kris, and I think it is a very interesting diet.

It isn't "proven" - but fewer people seem to give a darn about that anymore. I think even the "proven" diets aren't that proven. We are talking about a history that goes back roughly 10 years. It is difficult for anything much to be "proven." But - research and common sense goes a long way in my book.
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#887156 - 12/28/09 05:32 PM Re: Would like to know everyones opinion Good or B [Re: ValkyrieMome]
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ngs,
like i stated before i think it sounds like a good diet.
some of the proven diets contain to much honey, wambarro?(spelling) powder that is soy based that i believe cause alot of problems in gliders which has been talked abt. lately. personally i use the suncoast diet and if i ever change it would be a diet like that one.

regards and a happy new year to everyone.
nancy in detroit
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#887161 - 12/28/09 05:42 PM Re: Would like to know everyones opinion Good or B [Re: hwh4ev]
Srlb Offline
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Registered: 10/30/03
Posts: 16757
Loc: St. Johns, Florida
Quote:
some of the proven diets contain to much honey, wambarro?(spelling) powder that is soy based that i believe cause alot of problems in gliders which has been talked abt. lately.


This is untrue and NO documentation to back this claim up. If I am wrong Nancy, please share with me. However, this is exactly how all the glider myths start. So please, since I have been feeding my gliders HPW going on six years with NO ill side effects, please share with me these problems you talk of with proof to back it up, after all if it is unsafe, I surely do not want to feed it to my glider.

Much like years ago and still today people will say BML is unsafe for gliders due to the honey and the reptile calcium and vitamins it uses...nobody has shown me proof of that yet neither...

I also do not think people will find any issues with Kris's diet, and we really wont know for about 3-5 years for things to start showing up.
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#887163 - 12/28/09 05:48 PM Re: Would like to know everyones opinion Good or B [Re: Srlb]
NGS
Unregistered


ngs,
like i stated before i think it sounds like a good diet.
some of the proven diets contain to much honey, wambarro?(spelling) powder that is soy based that i believe cause alot of problems in gliders which has been talked abt. lately. personally i use the suncoast diet and if i ever change it would be a diet like that one.

regards and a happy new year to everyone.
nancy in detroit



can you give me the links where this is talked about?


Edited by NGS (12/28/09 05:50 PM)

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#887167 - 12/28/09 05:57 PM Re: Would like to know everyones opinion Good or B [Re: ]
NGS
Unregistered


Peggy

Do you know when Kris offered or started this diet as another option for gliders? Thanks

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#887173 - 12/28/09 06:09 PM Re: Would like to know everyones opinion Good or B [Re: ]
Srlb Offline
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Registered: 10/30/03
Posts: 16757
Loc: St. Johns, Florida
Im not exactly sure. But I did post over on SGN that you were looking for her and had some questions.
She is probably out enjoying her family for the holidays...then again, my brother doesnt live to far off from where she does and I know he is buried in snow...so maybe that is why she hasnt been able to get on to answer you as of yet.

Sorry I cant be of more help.
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#887174 - 12/28/09 06:15 PM Re: Would like to know everyones opinion Good or B [Re: ]
hwh4ev Offline
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scrib,
there have been a few breeders on here that fed hpw and
their gliders were sick and the vet said it was diet
related. these were not to long ago.
personally, i do not like soy because if taken to long
it causes cancer and alot of other problems, google soy
and their side effects.
this is my personal belief.

ngs, i dont know how to give links, but look in the past health and hygiene articles.

regards,
nancy in detroit
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#887177 - 12/28/09 06:19 PM Re: Would like to know everyones opinion Good or B [Re: hwh4ev]
NGS
Unregistered


ok,thanks smile

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#887180 - 12/28/09 06:27 PM Re: Would like to know everyones opinion Good or B [Re: ]
Srlb Offline
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Registered: 10/30/03
Posts: 16757
Loc: St. Johns, Florida
The few breeders that had issues was not proven to be diet related...their gliders had other illnesses which can also lead to a bad ca;p ratio.

When talking about Soy you need to know what type of soy and how it is being digested...humans do not digest their food the same way animals do.

That is why it is important to have documented proof instead of just stating what one believes. Hard to do, but it is the path that we must learn to get on and stay on if we are ever going to find TRUE answers. Ya know?
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#887228 - 12/28/09 08:17 PM Re: Would like to know everyones opinion Good or Bad? [Re: ]
jungleflockmom
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Originally Posted By: NGS
http://www.babylovegliders.com/Diets.html

I found this diet on this web site.

would like everyone's opinion about this diet?

I am always looking for better ways to improve the care for our fur kids and would like to know what you think about this diet? Thanks


Since she has used this diet for quite awhile and is happy with the health of her gliders, if it sounds like something you might like, try it. Gliders have their own particular scent regardless of their food, but it is true that certain diets can cause them to have more of a "fragrance". This is not a diet that would do so. Try it if you want.

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#887259 - 12/28/09 09:10 PM Re: Would like to know everyones opinion Good or Bad? [Re: ]
CandyOtte Offline
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Registered: 09/03/08
Posts: 5138
Loc: Lutz Florida
Kris was still working out the ingredients and trying to get the ratios balanced in September. She asked me to help double check her calculations using my diet Calculator. She made some changes to the diet at that time.

There are probably relatively few people using her diet because it has only been posted for 4 months.
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#887269 - 12/28/09 09:34 PM Re: Would like to know everyones opinion Good or Bad? [Re: CandyOtte]
NGS
Unregistered


I was wondering how long it had been around so thank you for letting me know. I appreciate everyones help with this. smile

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#887441 - 12/29/09 11:37 AM Re: Would like to know everyones opinion Good or B [Re: hwh4ev]
StitchsMom Offline
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Registered: 09/24/03
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Loc: IL (St. Louis area)
Originally Posted By: hwh4ev
there have been a few breeders on here that fed hpw and their gliders were sick and the vet said it was diet related

Who are these breeders? Where is the vet documentation? Were these people feeding the diet correctly?

I feed HPW and my vet thinks my gliders are the picture of health. dunno
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#887445 - 12/29/09 11:47 AM Re: Would like to know everyones opinion Good or B [Re: StitchsMom]
Dancing Offline
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Registered: 09/10/04
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Loc: 80 acres of paradise in KS
I don't feed HPW but I do feed a Wambaroo High Protien Suppliment based diet. I have almost as long as Peggy has fed HPW. I have a house full of healthy gorgous gliders. I've seen the Wambaroo help bring gliders back from death's door. If the soy in the Wambaroo was an issue, there would be a great number of ill gliders by now as so many use the wambaroo based diets. I'm just not seeing ANY evidence at all about wambaroo diet related illnesses. Just the opposite, gorgous, healthy gliders.


As for Kris's diet. I do know of one person that feeds it. I've seen it in the cages being fed and I wouldn't choose that diet for my gliders simply because of the looks of it. It is all blended together and offers little in the way of "stimulation" to the gliders. Most of my gliders like food they can grab ahold of and run to their favorite place to eat. I just don't see that happening with Kris's diet.
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#887727 - 12/30/09 08:37 AM Re: Would like to know everyones opinion Good or B [Re: Dancing]
NGS
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I was not aware that it has to be all mushy with no chucks for stimulation. So I went back and read it again and this is what it says for mixing.

"start adding fruits and veggies. Use different settings to get different textures or
HAND CHOP SOME ITEMS, LIQUEFY OTHERS. Add papaya, collards and your chosen add’l fruit and veggies"

This to me means, mix it how you want as far as how big or small you want the food pieces to be.
If you want the food to be chunky so the gliders have more stimulation then you just make it that way.

Which that part of this diet would be how others fix the HPW as well. Some blend more and others choose to cut the food up by hand and mix it in with the blended liqued HPW part or some cut it up by hand put the food separate then put the blended liqued on top of veggies and some put the blended HPW on the side of the dish or in a dish of its own.

From what I am getting she is giving you the option to make that choice for your glider kids.
If your glider kids love it chunky go with chunky if your glider kids like it all mushy then make it mushy. If your glider kids want their food hand chopped and separate with the mushy on top or to the side of their plate then make it that way or if they want everything in separate bowels then do it that way.

and from what I see in her picks her glider kids must like it all mixed up.


If I am reading this wrong or getting it wrong please let me know. smile


Edited by NGS (12/30/09 08:50 AM)

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#887734 - 12/30/09 09:06 AM Re: Would like to know everyones opinion Good or B [Re: ]
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stitchsmom and scrib,
i was referring to gueritta and another breeder who posted
not long ago abt. losing one of her joeys, both of their
vets said it was diet related.
if you check back you will see the postings.

regards,
nancy in detroit
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#887737 - 12/30/09 09:09 AM Re: Would like to know everyones opinion Good or B [Re: ]
gliderma Offline
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Registered: 05/07/08
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Loc: Michigan
I feed HPW. I have used only this diet for the almost 2 years I have had gliders. I don't have as much experience as Dancing or Peggy, but I do feel HPW is a good diet. MY gliders are all healthy, happy & active. I do have several intact males, but don't find the odor to be over bearing at all. I do believe this diet provides very well for them along with the fruits, veggies & yogurt I feed. I do not give them the same thing every night. I do offer a variety such as frozen mixed veggies one night, fresh or frozen fruits the next and then a fruit Yoplait yogurt the next. I do not puree any of this as my gliders do seem to like to be able to hold it in their hands and eat. I do not thaw it out before serving either. It does thaw rather quickly on it's own. Some of the favorites here include corn, peas, cantelope and apple. I also use dried tropical fruits & mealies for treats. This has worked out very well for my crew. I hope it helps in your decision making.
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