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#896007 - 01/21/10 06:26 PM chia seeds
richardm
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does any one know if chis seed are safe for gliders the are much higher im omega 3s than flax also high in anti oxidents ?

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#896031 - 01/21/10 07:21 PM Re: chia seeds [Re: ]
LSardou Offline
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I'm sorry, but I am not familiar with those. Hopefully someone who is will be able to answer your question.


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#896051 - 01/21/10 08:27 PM Re: chia seeds [Re: LSardou]
JessW88
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Thats what comes with a chia pet, right? I am not sure about how safe it is for gliders.

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#896166 - 01/22/10 06:09 AM Re: chia seeds [Re: ]
Sameeee
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I would not give chia seeds to your gliders,
I use them myself, 1/4 teaspoon is like that 5 hour engery drink, for that extra boost when you are run down and need to keep going, like a natual speed, I made the mistake of putting 1/2 a tablespoon on my coffee, I was going for 3 days lol.
the native american used them on long tracks, 1 tablespoon would be nourtshment for 24 hours,

Please DO NOT! give them to your babies

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#896175 - 01/22/10 07:12 AM Re: chia seeds [Re: ]
suggiemom1980 Offline
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Registered: 03/05/07
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Loc: Vincennes, IN, USA
If you try putting a spoonful of Chia seeds in a glass of water and leaving it for half an hour, the glass won't look like it has seeds or water in it, but an almost solid gelatin. This gel-forming reaction is due to the soluble fiber in the Chia.

Researchers believe this same gel-forming process takes place in the stomach. The gel that is formed in the stomach, creates a physical barrier between carbohydrates and the digestive enzymes that break them down, which slows the conversion of carbohydrates into sugar.

One of the exceptional qualities of the Chia seed is its hydrophilic properties. It has the ability to absorb more than 12 times its weight in water.

Definitely not a food for suggies. I can see their tummies swelling up and them having an intestinal blockage.

It sounds like a fantastic diet aid tho! I think I'll try to find some today!
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#896188 - 01/22/10 07:59 AM Re: chia seeds [Re: suggiemom1980]
Sameeee
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I have been useing chia for years, 1/4 of a teaspoon crushed will wake you up and give you energy, it has to be crushed or like any whole nut the body can't use it, you can chew them or crush and put in coffee, but I would not use more than 1/4 teaspoon at a time or it will make you shakeie,

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#896192 - 01/22/10 08:06 AM Re: chia seeds [Re: ]
suggiemom1980 Offline
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I just ordered some. I guess I'll have to put them in my spice grinder. Thanks, Sameeee! I didn't know they couldn't be ingested whole. I'm very interested in them. From what I've read, they have many benefits for the human body. Just not suggies! LOL!
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#896198 - 01/22/10 08:16 AM Re: chia seeds [Re: suggiemom1980]
Sameeee
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I keep a small contaner in my pocket, when I start feeling run down I chew some and I am ready to go again, you can use up to a tablespoon a day but like I said no more than 1/4 teaspoon at a time, even at that small amount you don't feel hungry after chewing them,

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#896199 - 01/22/10 08:18 AM Re: chia seeds [Re: ]
suggiemom1980 Offline
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PM sent so as to not hijack this thread. smile
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#896264 - 01/22/10 11:37 AM Re: chia seeds [Re: suggiemom1980]
ErichB
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Richard I voiced my conserns on the CSGA Fourms about Chia seeds but I'll post it again here.

From what I've read chia seeds have a great deal of healthy omega-3 fatty acid in it something like 2.5 grams per table spoon. Omega-3s are well known to reduce inflammation and help the body reduce some of the effects of aging. But when chia seeds are placed in water or a liquid they swell to create a gel and this can happen in your stomach which can quickly lead to blotting in glider's tiny stomachs. And it is believe that this gel also restricts the absorption of calories which for me would be a no no as Glider's don't really eat a whole much in consideration so everything that they consume is important and needs to be beneficial.

I personally would say no, do not feed your glider chia seeds

~Erich

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#896285 - 01/22/10 12:24 PM Re: chia seeds [Re: ]
eden
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I agree with Erich, also they have an incorrect calcium to phosphorus ratio (18% calcium to 27% phosphorus I believe). Seeds and nuts are not a good choice of food for Suggies as the calcium to phosphorus ratios are incorrect and they are also high in fat. There are better choices for antioxidants and omegas such as blueberries, goji berries, acai berries, papaya, etc.

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#897350 - 01/25/10 12:48 AM Re: chia seeds [Re: ]
sugarlope Offline
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Registered: 03/28/02
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I will be the odd man out here, I fed chia gel (already soaked in water, but not sprouted) to my gliders for over 2 years. No harm done, they actually really liked it. The only reason I stopped was because the supplier I was using went up and chia became insanely expensive around here for a while, but I have been recently considering starting it up again. I do agree with NOT feeding un-gelled chia to your gliders, as it will very likely swell in their stomach.


Edited by sugarlope (01/25/10 12:48 AM)
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#898450 - 01/27/10 12:02 PM Re: chia seeds [Re: sugarlope]
ErichB
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Thank you Gretchen, I've been looking for quite sometime as to see if anyone feeds the gel. You would by chance happen to have a nutritional break down of it that you could e-mail be by chance?

~Erich

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#898486 - 01/27/10 02:33 PM Re: chia seeds [Re: ]
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Registered: 01/03/09
Posts: 7748
Loc: New Jersey
alittle off topic, but interesting all the same. When our chia head fell and broke, we put all the little baby plants on the top of some dirt in a large pot that just happened to be sitting there, and a few weeks later we noticed they were ALOT bigger. so we put the large pot in a very sunny spot and started to water it. Those chias grew 13 FEET tall!!!

no lie, have pictures to prove it! not digital so I cant post here. sorry
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#898521 - 01/27/10 05:34 PM Re: chia seeds [Re: JillMarie]
sugarlope Offline
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I used to have a print out somewhere that I got from the company, but I have no idea where I would have put it. Here is some quick info I looked up, though;
http://www.path2healthyliving.com/ChiaSeeds.html
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/nut-and-seed-products/3061/2
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#898550 - 01/27/10 07:00 PM Re: chia seeds [Re: sugarlope]
richardm
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thanks for your feed back i think this could be a very good suppliment. not a food source but a suppliment .im giving my guy some in very small quantities its much better than flaxs . which is in some approved diets .

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#898554 - 01/27/10 07:05 PM Re: chia seeds [Re: ]
sugarlope Offline
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As has been stated several times, please do make sure to make the gel before feeding. Even if you grind the seeds up, they will swell. DO NOT feed the seed or ground up seeds without soaking (and follow directions for soaking, as they will clump together and not all swell properly if you do not make sure they are separated). thumb
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#898576 - 01/27/10 08:12 PM Re: chia seeds [Re: sugarlope]
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i noticed there is 100 more in phos than calcium.would it still benefit even tho it is so much higher? even as an occasional snack?
talk @ ya L8R
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#898838 - 01/28/10 11:55 AM Re: chia seeds [Re: josefine]
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would this be safe to feed even tho it is 100% higher in phos than cal?
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#899009 - 01/28/10 06:29 PM Re: chia seeds [Re: sugarlope]
richardm
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thank you i am soaking them, just wondering how much and how often you have been useing them .

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